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Mr. White
5th May 2004, 19:28
Fahrenheit 9/11 banned (http://michaelmoore.com)
You all probably knew about this, so i wont be telling you all about it.Just check out the link if you are interested.
And maby get some feedback about this.
Funky Monk
5th May 2004, 19:52
I think the dangers of being associated with the anti-Bush are still strong in corporate America. Part of the warped patriotism idea.
Akasha
5th May 2004, 19:55
It all has to do with taxes. If the film is shown then Bush's brother who is the Senator or Governor, whatever the hell the diff is, will raise Disney's taxes in Florida. Disney being Miramax, the distributor. Disney doesn't want that and so no movie. I think it was CBC Newsworld that called it "Michael vs. the Mouse."
Poderosa III
6th May 2004, 12:16
Heh, yet more proof that this supposed "free country" outlook is actualy just a farce, freedom my arse...
Funky Monk
6th May 2004, 13:10
Well, a difference between the theory of freedom and the practice.
M_Rawlins
6th May 2004, 13:21
this is nothing new, the US government often bans books aswel, "they don't have to burn the books they just remove them" and if books are banned, then why not movies? The banning of Fahrenheit 9/11 dosen't surprise me, as movies are so accessible to the public.
This site has a lot of the banned books throughout the 20th century for various reasons:
Banned Books Online (http://digital.library.upenn.edu/books/banned-books.html)
In nervous times, politically motivated censorship has occurred in the United States as well. In 1954, the Providence, RI, post office attempted to block delivery of Lenin's State and Revolution to Brown University, citing it as "subversive". In 1918, the US War Department told the American Library Association to remove a number of pacifist and "disturbing" books, including Ambrose Bierce's Can Such Things Be? from camp libraries, a directive which was taken to also apply to the homefront. (Censorship in libraries run by the federal government continued afterwards as well. In the 1950s, according to Walter Harding, Senator Joseph McCarthy had overseas libraries run by the United States Information Service pull an anthology of American literature from the shelves because it included Thoreau's Civil Disobedience.)
SittingBull47
6th May 2004, 13:39
hell yea, some of you know how hard it is to grab those banned books as well. It's been tough for me to attain them but the library system helps. Controlling the market of books and movies that go against what the government is a clear violation of intellectual freedom.
Funky Monk
6th May 2004, 14:48
They used to burn copies of Robin Hood in the McCarthy era. Its amazing how scared people are of books.
M_Rawlins
6th May 2004, 15:12
Controlling the market of books and movies that go against what the government is a clear violation of intellectual freedom.
yep, a few small steps towards one of the factors of a toltalitarian state (as set out by US political scientists post WWII) - "State control over all forms of communication"
cubist
6th May 2004, 15:32
wellk its not a suprise really,
what is freedom when yourpresident wasn't elected, JEB bush is bigger prick than his brother and his father
Commie Girl
6th May 2004, 18:08
:D
pandora
7th May 2004, 07:47
What the )@#($* was he doing using money from disney, with the kind of movies he makes that was asking for it. Couldn't he have come up with a more solid sponser who wouldn't ban his film, NEVER TRUST DISNEY!
Originally posted by
[email protected] 7 2004, 07:47 AM
What the )@#($* was he doing using money from disney
You’re right. It is strange that Michael Moore is making Disney Films.
He probably chose Disney as the distributor, knowing his film would be banned, just to make the point that there is no freedom in America. Now he has something to write about on his website and in his upcoming Book and Movie.
cubist
7th May 2004, 13:13
he ios not he is making a film published by a majo distributor MIRAMAX, a disney affiliated company, disney recieves massive tax benifits from jeb bush,and decdied they didn't want it releasing, the point is WHY DO RATM USE EPIC/SONY becuase they wanted the music to be actually distributed, i would imagine michael moore made the video with whoever was willing to help him.
Comité De Salut Public
8th May 2004, 19:31
Originally posted by Mr.
[email protected] 5 2004, 07:28 PM
Fahrenheit 9/11 banned (http://michaelmoore.com)
You all probably knew about this, so i wont be telling you all about it.Just check out the link if you are interested.
And maby get some feedback about this.
Motherfuck Uncle Scrooge!
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refuse_resist
8th May 2004, 20:30
It's a clear act of censorship, nothing more.
Marxist in Nebraska
12th May 2004, 20:57
I agree with all of the outrage about the attempt to suppress Moore's new film.
I would like to add a few points made in a bulletin by FAIR (Fairness and Accuracy In Reporting), which I have not seen listed on this thread.
First Point: Disney claims that they do not want to be associated with a "partisan" film. Moore is not a hack for the Democratic Party. He devoted a chapter in Stupid White Men to how there was almost no difference between Clinton and Dubya, which is something I have never heard a Dem do.
More importantly, Disney's radio stations broadcast Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Bill O'Reilly. Disney's Family Channel airs the 700 Club, hosted by Pat Robertson. Limbaugh, Hannity, and Robertson are clearly partisan Republicans.
Second Point: One of the primary investors in EuroDisney theme parks is one of the Saudi princes. He is considered one of the only reasons the unsuccessful Disney venture has not already bankrupted.
Disney does not want to detail the relationship between the Bushs and the Saudi royal family because of political pressure from both of the powerful families.
apathy maybe
13th May 2004, 03:37
The title comes from the SF book, by Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451 — originally published in 1953 (after Orwell's 1984 published in 1949). The title for the book comes from the tempurature that paper burns at. The book is about firemen, who go around burning all the books they can find. I bet Disney would like that wouldn't they. No more thinking for you!
Moore is a Democrat, he just thinks that the way they are now is not good.
Subversive Pessimist
13th May 2004, 05:05
It is not really banned, isn't it? It is just Disney who won't... do something? :unsure:
It will still be produced, right?
Poderosa III
13th May 2004, 14:22
Actually, it's already been made, its sitting there with it's roll of film waiting to be sent out, but disney pulled out at the last minute... so chances are, what happened with Stupid White Men, he couldn't get it published due to the publuisher pulling out at the last minute. Hopefully, someone else will take it up and publish it.
RedAnarchist
13th May 2004, 14:34
wasnt Walt Disney a fascist himself?
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