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Bakunjin
4th March 2002, 23:30
G.W.B said in US Congres: "Why they hate us? They hate people in this hall, they hate democracy, they have their own dictators. THEY HATE OUR RIGHT TO THINK DIFFERENT!"
Isn't this hipocracy? G dubya B is talking about right to think different? Well, well...
When we analyse the speeches of Bush and Osama we find no differencies. They both have the same black&white picture about the world divided between good and bad, right and wrong. GWB says: "Who is not with me, he is with the terrorists" I opened a topic about terrorist list few days ago... One comrade said that in American logic we are all terrorist and that he is proud to be it... And another one said: "I wouldn't agree with the saying that everyone who is against US are terrorists. We, communists , are against capitalism= against USA and all capitalistic world. But we don't need to call ourselves terrorists, because we are not using terror in order to achieve OUR goals">>>It doesn't matter what we use to achieve our goal... We are what GWB says we are.
I saw a report about few american students in Arab countries. It shows how people in the US are uninformed about rest of the world... They said that America is choking in her own ignorance. And wondered when will America revise, turn back on what she is doing if she didn't after 11/9? It seems that US are not aware of the casualties they are causing. There are TV scenes from hospital in the muslim world of children without legs, or arms, criples and others...USA doesn't see it. TV in the western world is ignoring it...And if they see it, they will say that those victims are necessary, and accidental...
What's the problem... We all know that America was involved in every political event in last century. They used every war to sell their weapon, some war they caused to achieve their goal...
Lets go back to GWB speech in Congress: "They hate democracy"... Is it American goal to bring democracy in whole of the world? Well, lets remember Chile 1973... Democratically elected president was overtrown with American help and ruthless dictator was installed... US threw away their ideals...WHY? Or Iran 1953. Democratically elected prime minister Mossadik was overthrown because he nationalised Oil industries what US was exploiting. And they helped instaling Shah's dictatorship. SO, IT ISN'T ABOUT DEMOCRACY...IT IS ABOUT HIPOCRACY...DOUBLE STANDARDS... We all know what happened in Iran with Homeini and other events... Americas fault...What you rip is what you saw...
On 11/9 people of Iran prayed with candles for the victims of WTC: "America, take our compassion!" It lasted couple of days, not only one day.. THOSE PICTURES WERE NOT SHOWN ON ANY AMERICAN TV!
Pro-american arab countries - Americans didn't export democracy in those countries.. They just exported their products. So, in these conditions, where there is no democracy, and poor people are poor and without rights, extremism is born...
American ignorance... During the elections GWB didn't even know who is Pervez Musharraf? Then he called him a dictator... And now Musharraf is American puppet....Interesting evolution...
The problem is that USA doesn't believe in History and that history will some day judge USA of what they did...
The change of relations between USA and the rest of the world is necessary. And it will be changed when America shows respect on other parts of the world. American history shows that USA doesn't respect them. They don't respect system of values of other countries. They have abnormally high opinion about themselves, they think that their way of live, culture and system of value is the best, and that others should think the same way. So ethoncetric...No respect about others..."THEY HATE OUR RIGHT TO THINK DIFFERENT"GWB...disgusting...
Why did Americans choose GWB? Because he is a "macho", because he killed so many people on electric chair, are you bloodthirsty?

Son of Scargill
5th March 2002, 03:46
Well said Bakunjin.The demonstrations of sympathy in Iran were,in the words of the producer,"positively discouraged"from being shown in the west.I only saw it myself 2 weeks ago,and at 3.30am.The Iranians,or the Iraqi's for that matter,don't hate the americans per se,but they do hate the attitude that the US is some how superior,that the ignorance that is portrayed in the american media,nay is supported by the us media is detrimental to understanding of their cultures.Yes,one thing the US needs to do is have respect for other cultures.....but I think this is an impossibility for them as a whole.Their state loves ignorance.

Lardlad95
5th March 2002, 03:56
Bakujin that was an excellent statement. I hate George dubya the man has a mind that can't seem to conteplate his own stupidity so he allows him self to spout moronic statements. Who ever isn't with him is a terrorist. Last time I checked me and the rest of the Democratic Socialist didn't bomb anyone.

George claims Americans have the right to think different yet we force other countries to agree with us. Now I'm not agreeing with those 9/11 terrorist but they were thinking differently and I can understand their hatred for this nation (not to condone their actions) This country surpresses the right to think differntly. Calling anyone who doesn't agree with is veiws terrorist, calling certain countries the axis of evil, The man is an out right moron

worse off he is exactly like OSama, both come from wealthy families, both thinks the other represents complete evil. Both are religous fanatics. its shocking how similar the two are, should They not be so ignorant they would probably be best friends. In my opion we should roll Bush in an American flag like a joint and light it on fire for all the right wings to smoke like some cheap ass weed

Super Xero
5th March 2002, 05:57
Well said: the US also supplied arms to the Iraqi's during the 1978 Iran-Iraq War. which they used against the UN Fores in the Gulf War. GWB:"Those who are not with America, are Terrorists" or something like that. At the start of the campaign Iran pronouce its Neutrallity in the War, and suprise a few months later, GWB calls Iran a member of the Evil Axis???

guerrillaradio
5th March 2002, 14:33
Bankujin - excellent post.

Yeah, America actively discourages democracy, if it is of the left. Castro was democractically elected a few months after the Cuban Revolution (July 1959 I think) and yet in 1962, the CIA attempted to overthrow him!!

And they are playing the role of playground bully in the war on terrorism. The whole "if you're not with us, you're against us" thing (which, being a nihilist, I don't follow anyway) is merely forcing many countries onto their side. Musharraf knows that if he doesn't follow the US, then he will face sanctions. Same with Saudi, India, UAE and all the rest. America have succeeded in their conquest to dominate the world. There's no hope my friends...

Bakunjin
5th March 2002, 16:37
Thank you all for the compliments :)
I wondered, when I wrote this, will it sound like nationalism...If it is nationalism, it is justed...

Rosa
5th March 2002, 23:07
Bush is uneducated moron came to power using old inadequate election-laws, awfull is everything he does, citizens of US should have denied his "election" for president.I suppose that they had too much expectations of system that doesn't provide self-will guidance in such an important matters.
He needs war to survive on political sceene, for afraid people are more radical.
You folks wouldn't belive how interested people of my country were about that elections. Personally, was veeery disapointed in reactions-accepting that M for president.I know that theese elections were for "US"president, but that guy is the most powerful person in Western World, and has the whole atomic machinery in his hands. And till yesterday was riding a cow in Texas.

Lardlad95
5th March 2002, 23:32
We need to get Bush out of the white house and into Kindergarden where he can work on a level near his intellegence. I mean the man is like a walking talking US prapaganda commercial, he represents all that is wrong with this country

bleed3r
6th March 2002, 01:10
very nice. though, as far as i'm concerned, bush *didnt* win... in fact, i believe he lost more than once... rigged, i tell you. =p plus he's a pussy, far from macho... anyway... i agree. current relations need change. they need revolution.