I'm a bad American.

[Capitalist Imperial]

I Am Your Worst Nightmare. I am a BAD American. I am Captialist Imperial.

I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some mid level governmental functionary be it Democratic, Republican,or commie puke!

I think owning a gun doesn't make you a killer, it makes you a smart American.

I think being a minority does not make you noble or victimized, and does not entitle you to anything.

I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, try to do it in English.

I think fireworks should be legal on the 4th of July.

I think that being a student doesn't give you any more enlightenment than working at Blockbuster. In fact, if your parents are footing the bill to put your pansy ass through 4 years plus of college, you haven't begun to be enlightened. However, college is never a bad thing.

I believe everyone has a right to pray to his or her God when and where they want to, but don't impose it on me, and don't "pray for me".

My heroes are John Wayne, Ron Reagan, Babe Ruth, Roy Rogers, and whoever canceled Jerry Springer.

I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor.

I know wrestling is fake and I don't waste my time arguing about it.

I've never owned a slave, or was a slave, I didn't wander forty years In the desert after getting chased out of Egypt. I haven't burned any witches or been persecuted by the Turks and neither have you! So, shut-the-Hell-up already.

I want to know which church is it exactly where the Reverend Jesse Jackson practices, where he gets his money, and why he is always part of the problem and not the solution. Can I get an AMEN on that one?

I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry ass if you're running from them.

I also think they have the right to pull your ass over if you're breaking the law, regardless of what color you are.

I think if you are too stupid to know how a ballot works, I don't want you deciding who should be running the most powerful nation in the world for the next four years.

I believe that it doesn't take a village to raise a child, it takes two parents.
If this makes me a BAD American, then yes, I'm a BAD American.

And I believe that history will show that Iraq will be better off after our action there.

[Osman Ghazi]

I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some mid level governmental functionary be it Democratic, Republican,or cutie pie!


You have to understand: all of us are necessary. If a doctor has to spend his time taking his trash to the dump, he sure as hell wont spend a lot of time doctoring. So suddenly, the garbageman has a lot more value than we think. In fact, our society could NEVER function without a garbageman. So, if we are all necessary to make our society work, why should some make more than others?


I think owning a gun doesn't make you a killer, it makes you a smart American.


Personally, I don't think guns should be banned. In fact, I fully support the arming of the people. So again, one of the few times we are in agreement. I'm not exactly sure why it would make you smart though...


I think being a minority does not make you noble or victimized, and does not entitle you to anything.


Actually, it does make you victimized. That is a fact. Notice how there is no racism directed at white people (except the black panthers, but they never did much)


believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, try to do it in English.


So you are intolerant of anyone who doesn't speak English? That's a positive attitude. Maybe they think you're an asshole because you don't speak their native tongue. It is precisely this type of intolerance that must be crushed.


I think fireworks should be legal on the 4th of July.


Why the hell not every day?

Anyways, this is mostly stupid stuff. I won't waste my time answering it all. I already wasted a bunch reading it.

EDIT:
or been persecuted by the Turks

Is this directed at Janissaries or at Armenians?

[DaCuBaN]

Good and Bad are subjective terms. Your summary shows you to be a GOOD american, but a BAD person ;)

or at least that's how I understand it :P :rolleyes:


I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family

...and socialism is like having the biggest ever extended family. Every man is your brother :D


I think owning a gun doesn't make you a killer

Nope, only killing someone makes you a killer. It's a bit like those people who call guns 'evil'


I think being a minority does not make you noble or victimized, and does not entitle you to anything.

no more, no less than any other -Equality.


I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, try to do it in English.


you don't like le Big Mac then? or the Royale avec Fromage? :rolleyes:


I think fireworks should be legal on the 4th of July

Well if you want guns, I don't see why fireworks shouldn't be legal all the time


I think that being a student doesn't give you any more enlightenment than working at Blockbuster. In fact, if your parents are footing the bill to put your pansy ass through 4 years plus of college, you haven't begun to be enlightened. However, college is never a bad thing.

Hence my decision to study hard at the university of life before continuing further education. We need more intelligent, aware workers damnit! :lol:


I believe everyone has a right to pray to his or her God when and where they want to, but don't impose it on me, and don't "pray for me".

But by having religion in the public eye you are 'imposing' it on people. Not to mention it gets mixed up in fields where it has no place, for example politics. :angry:


I know wrestling is fake and I don't waste my time arguing about it

I've never understood the fascination with sport in general, let alone fake sports. :rolleyes:


I've never owned a slave, or was a slave, I didn't wander forty years In the desert after getting chased out of Egypt. I haven't burned any witches or been persecuted by the Turks and neither have you! So, shut-the-Hell-up already.


Temper temper&#33; <_< I don&#39;t get the point of this one though... elaborate?


My heroes are John Wayne, Ron Reagan, Babe Ruth, Roy Rogers, and whoever canceled Jerry Springer.

Not GWB? why is that now...
I&#39;ll agree with whoever cancelled Jerry Springer though - send him over this way we&#39;ll give him a knighthood :D
As for sports? well I cannot see the purpose in idolising a person purely based on their physical activities... after all there is a level of &#39;talent&#39; involved and as such they aren&#39;t purely reaping the benefits of their own work. Surely that goes against your own ideology?


I don&#39;t hate the rich. I don&#39;t pity the poor

Pity is a horrible thing... noone deserves to be &#39;pitied&#39;(sp?)
Hate, of course, is just pointless.


I want to know which church is it exactly where the Reverend Jesse Jackson practices, where he gets his money, and why he is always part of the problem and not the solution. Can I get an AMEN on that one?


Anyone who tries to &#39;spread the word of god&#39; is the problem. By all means believe it, but why people feel so desperate to tell the world I&#39;ll never know...


I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry ass if you&#39;re running from them.

I also think they have the right to pull your ass over if you&#39;re breaking the law, regardless of what color you are.

I don&#39;t believe the police should be armed with deadly force.... I like the idea of tazers though, at least until I can think up a viable solution to the police


I think if you are too stupid to know how a ballot works, I don&#39;t want you deciding who should be running the most powerful nation in the world for the next four years.


Then I&#39;d start the cull in your own country first as it&#39;s infested ;)


I believe that it doesn&#39;t take a village to raise a child, it takes two parents.

The family unit is dead. The new family is your community, but I guess it&#39;s futile to try and change your mind there.

[revolutionindia]

Wheres your sidekick Lucid not yet posted huh?

[RedAnarchist]

I believe the money I make should benefit society as a whole

I think owning a gun doesn&#39;t make you a killer, it makes you dangerous

I think being a minority does not mean you have to stand by and let the rascists and conservatives oppress you

I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, remind me that i&#39;m a communist and dont eat fast food junk that will affect my health negatively

I think fireworks should be legal on every day.

I think that being a student means that you are studying for capitalit exams, when the true exams of life are not found in academic institutions, but in the real world.

I believe everyone has a right to pray to his or her God when and where they want to, but must control themselves and not allow violence or hatred through their beliefs.

My heroes are Che Guevara, Karl Marx and every communist and left-wing civil rights activist who stood up for what they believed in and changed the system

I think the rich are not taxed enough, whilst the poor must be given more help by the government and less tax.

I know wrestling is fake and I don&#39;t waste my time arguing about it. I also know that it is for losers and kids.

I&#39;m white, male, "Anglo-Saxon" and a baptised though non-believing Anglican, but this does not mean i am better than my brothers and sisters who are male and female, black and white, old and young, African and European.

I want dunno about this one

I think the cops have no right whatsoever to shoot an unarmed person in the back, to attack a person because of the colour of their skin or their political idealogy and must be there to protect the people, not harm them.

I also think they must ensure they pull someone over if they are sure that the person has commited a crime, and must not harm that person

I think if you are too stupid to know how a ballot works, then you&#39;ll be voting Republican as usual.

I believe that it doesn&#39;t take a woman and a man to raise a child, but society must help bring the child up to be fair, liberal, kind and doesnt take any bullshit from the government or other authorities.

And I believe that history will show that Iraq will be the second Vietnam.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

I Am Your Worst Nightmare. I am a BAD American. I am Captialist Imperial.

Nice start&#33; You are already on the first steps of admitting what a wretched piece of humanity you are&#33;


I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some mid level governmental functionary be it Democratic, Republican,or cutie pie&#33;

Well under socialism, as someone said, society would be your family. personally I don&#39;t like socialism that much, it has this embarressing tendency to... FAIL.
Why not go straight to communism instead, where money is no object?


I think owning a gun doesn&#39;t make you a killer, it makes you a smart American.

What about gun owners outside america? Are they smart americans as well? Sorry, couldn&#39;t resist. No, I believe owning a gun makes you a smart homeowner.


I think being a minority does not make you noble or victimized, and does not entitle you to anything.

Well I agree with you, but the sad fact of the matter is, under current Western society, non-whites don&#39;t have it as good as you imagine.


I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, try to do it in English.

Yes of course a big mac should be sold to you in english&#33; that&#39;s your native language&#33; but what about people whose native language is NOT english?


I think fireworks should be legal on the 4th of July.

I think they should be legal anyday.


I think that being a student doesn&#39;t give you any more enlightenment than working at Blockbuster. In fact, if your parents are footing the bill to put your pansy ass through 4 years plus of college, you haven&#39;t begun to be enlightened. However, college is never a bad thing.

First you accuse the students of being &#39;pansy ass&#39; and then you go on to say that college is never a bad thing&#33; How many twists and turns will you take?
Sure, going to college may not ground you in the ways of the world the same way as working at Blockbuster does, but in college you gain these little things called &#39;qualifications&#39;. They are immensively useful things that you can&#39;t get at blockbuster.


I believe everyone has a right to pray to his or her God when and where they want to, but don&#39;t impose it on me, and don&#39;t "pray for me".

What about public acts of faith, isn&#39;t that imposing it upon you? the &#39;in your face&#39; approach so to speak?


I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry ass if you&#39;re running from them.

I don&#39;t think there should be any little wannabe fascist dictator pigs at all.


I also think they have the right to pull your ass over if you&#39;re breaking the law, regardless of what color you are.

As Above.


I think if you are too stupid to know how a ballot works, I don&#39;t want you deciding who should be running the most powerful nation in the world for the next four years.

I think people who can&#39;t operate a ballot would rather be doing more engaging things than voting. And what is your point here anyway?


I believe that it doesn&#39;t take a village to raise a child, it takes two parents.
If this makes me a BAD American, then yes, I&#39;m a BAD American.

Actually, it takes more than two parents to raise a child. Children need social interaction that is not possible to obtain from parents.


And I believe that history will show that Iraq will be better off after our action there

That is entirely relative.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2004, 08:00 AM
I believe the money I make should benefit society as a whole

I think owning a gun doesn&#39;t make you a killer, it makes you dangerous

I think being a minority does not mean you have to stand by and let the rascists and conservatives oppress you

I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, remind me that i&#39;m a communist and dont eat fast food junk that will affect my health negatively

I think fireworks should be legal on every day.

I think that being a student means that you are studying for capitalit exams, when the true exams of life are not found in academic institutions, but in the real world.

I believe everyone has a right to pray to his or her God when and where they want to, but must control themselves and not allow violence or hatred through their beliefs.

My heroes are Che Guevara, Karl Marx and every communist and left-wing civil rights activist who stood up for what they believed in and changed the system

I think the rich are not taxed enough, whilst the poor must be given more help by the government and less tax.

I know wrestling is fake and I don&#39;t waste my time arguing about it. I also know that it is for losers and kids.

I&#39;m white, male, "Anglo-Saxon" and a baptised though non-believing Anglican, but this does not mean i am better than my brothers and sisters who are male and female, black and white, old and young, African and European.

I want dunno about this one

I think the cops have no right whatsoever to shoot an unarmed person in the back, to attack a person because of the colour of their skin or their political idealogy and must be there to protect the people, not harm them.

I also think they must ensure they pull someone over if they are sure that the person has commited a crime, and must not harm that person

I think if you are too stupid to know how a ballot works, then you&#39;ll be voting Republican as usual.

I believe that it doesn&#39;t take a woman and a man to raise a child, but society must help bring the child up to be fair, liberal, kind and doesnt take any bullshit from the government or other authorities.

And I believe that history will show that Iraq will be the second Vietnam.

I believe the money I make should benefit society as a whole

So I can work 2x as hard as my neigbor, yet we yield the same benefit? Inequities exist, always havve, and you should get back exactly what you put in.


I think owning a gun doesn&#39;t make you a killer, it makes you dangerous

Not big on personal responsibility, eh? Not surprising, commie.


I think being a minority does not mean you have to stand by and let the rascists and conservatives oppress you

Typical unfounded apologism


I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, remind me that i&#39;m a communist and dont eat fast food junk that will affect my health negatively

Yeah, you&#39;re a communist so you will wait 4 hours in line for a stale bread loaf.


I think fireworks should be legal on every day.

Good point, agreed


I think that being a student means that you are studying for capitalit exams, when the true exams of life are not found in academic institutions, but in the real world.

That is part true, part false. Higher education is beneficial, no doubt about it. And exams are not inherently "capitalist". That is not an attributable adjective here, get real. By the way, I hope those "real world exams" test you on when to ask "do you want fries with that?"


I think the rich are not taxed enough, whilst the poor must be given more help by the government and less tax.

Of course, the government. How did I gueess? Lets punish the successful, because it is our job to decide when someone has earned enough, regardless of how much work they have put into their enterprise or contributed to the economy, and of course considering that they already paid more taxes than others, compared to a welfare mother that continues to lay around and eat lays potato chips and pumping out extra babies out of wedlock to increase her "state-sponsored allowance" while watching Springer and not looking for a job.


I&#39;m white, male, "Anglo-Saxon" and a baptised though non-believing Anglican, but this does not mean i am better than my brothers and sisters who are male and female, black and white, old and young, African and European.

Nor do I , or have I ever suggested such.


I think the cops have no right whatsoever to shoot an unarmed person in the back, to attack a person because of the colour of their skin or their political idealogy and must be there to protect the people, not harm them.

If someone is running from a cop, there is obviously a problem. Why would we let someone that has demonstrated to be evading cops for some reason, and in violation of the law (evasion) go and potentially harm an innocent individual later? By the way, how can we be sure they are unarmed? The worst must be assumed to ensure a utilitarian protection of society.


I believe that it doesn&#39;t take a woman and a man to raise a child, but society must help bring the child up to be fair, liberal, kind and doesnt take any bullshit from the government or other authorities.

That is probably while he&#39;ll be shot in the back running from them.
Keep "society&#39;s" opinion ourt of my household, unless I am abusive or violent. "Society" thnks a simple spannking or thump on the head is child abuse, and that a "time out" is good punishment. No wonder we have kids shooting up schools.



And I believe that history will show that Iraq will be the second Vietnam.

Cliche, predictable, thoughtless drivel repeated 1 million times, let alone inaccurate in so many ways.

[Urban Rubble]

œI believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some mid level governmental functionary be it Democratic, Republican,or cutie pie&#33;œ

Do you think we want our money to go into some bereaucrat&#39;s pocket ?

œI think owning a gun doesn&#39;t make you a killer, it makes you a smart American.œ

It doesn&#39;t make you either, it&#39;s entirely subjective.

œI think being a minority does not make you noble or victimized, and does not entitle you to anything.œ

No, it does not automatically mean you&#39;re victimized, it just makes it 10 times more likely.

œI believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, try to do it in English.œ

I agree. If you live somewhere you should speak the language.

œI think fireworks should be legal on the 4th of July.œ

I think fireworks should be legal on Dec 25th, jan 1st, Feb 14th and Spet 11, and all other times.

œI think that being a student doesn&#39;t give you any more enlightenment than working at Blockbuster. In fact, if your parents are footing the bill to put your pansy ass through 4 years plus of college, you haven&#39;t begun to be enlightened. However, college is never a bad thing.œ

Well no fucking shit. Someone give this guy a dog biscuit.

œI believe everyone has a right to pray to his or her God when and where they want to, but don&#39;t impose it on me, and don&#39;t "pray for me".œ

Again, no fucking kidding. I agree.

œMy heroes are John Wayne, Ron Reagan, Babe Ruth, Roy Rogers, and whoever canceled Jerry Springer.œ

Babe Ruth was an alchoholic and a complete asshole, but good at baseball. Regan is a war criminal, and senile. John Wayne is just a total waste of life. Are you kidding, have you ever read up on that man&#39;s life ?

œI don&#39;t hate the rich. I don&#39;t pity the poor.œ

I don&#39;t hate the rich, but I do think most of them are selfish and a good half of them are undeserving of a fraction of their wealth. If you dont pity poor people you are simply a cretin.

œI know wrestling is fake and I don&#39;t waste my time arguing about it.œ

Jesus Christ you&#39;re stupid.

œI&#39;ve never owned a slave, or was a slave, I didn&#39;t wander forty years In the desert after getting chased out of Egypt. I haven&#39;t burned any witches or been persecuted by the Turks and neither have you&#33; So, shut-the-Hell-up already.œ

Who do you know that claimed to be a part of any of these things ?

œI want to know which church is it exactly where the Reverend Jesse Jackson practices, where he gets his money, and why he is always part of the problem and not the solution. Can I get an AMEN on that one?œ

Amen.I agree.

œI think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry ass if you&#39;re running from them.œ

You&#39;re a fucking fool. So if someone doesn&#39;t feel like being thrown in jail for a joint they deserve to die ?

œI also think they have the right to pull your ass over if you&#39;re breaking the law, regardless of what color you are.œ

Obviously. What they shouldn&#39;t be able to do is assume you&#39;re committing a crime and pull you over, then find something after the fact.

œI think if you are too stupid to know how a ballot works, I don&#39;t want you deciding who should be running the most powerful nation in the world for the next four years.œ

And if you&#39;re too stupid to speak in public for 5 minutes without fucking up you shouldn&#39;t be in office either.

œI believe that it doesn&#39;t take a village to raise a child, it takes two parents.œ

I agree. But the village most definitely helps.

œIf this makes me a BAD American, then yes, I&#39;m a BAD American.œ

No, you&#39;re a regular, average American. What you are is a bad human.

œAnd I believe that history will show that Iraq will be better off after our action there.œ

I&#39;m sure you would have said the same of Vietname 40 years ago.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by Urban [email protected] 30 2004, 05:58 PM

Well no fucking shit. Someone give this guy a dog biscuit.

Again, no fucking kidding. I agree.


I don&#39;t hate the rich, but I do think most of them are selfish and a good half of them are undeserving of a fraction of their wealth. If you dont pity poor people you are simply a cretin.


Jesus Christ you&#39;re stupid.

You&#39;re a fucking fool.


And if you&#39;re too stupid to speak in public for 5 minutes without fucking up you shouldn&#39;t be in office either.



No, you&#39;re a regular, average American. What you are is a bad human.


I&#39;m sure you would have said the same of Vietname 40 years ago.
The usual thought-provoking responses and relevant dialogue from Urban Rubble abounds.

[Osman Ghazi]

And I believe that history will show that Iraq will be better off after our action there.



Cliche, predictable, thoughtless drivel repeated 1 million times, let alone inaccurate in so many ways.

I couldn&#39;t agree more, CI.

[DaCuBaN]

So is my response not worth of retort CI? You seem to be gliding over me quite a lot today ;)


Well under socialism, as someone said, society would be your family. personally I don&#39;t like socialism that much, it has this embarressing tendency to... FAIL.
Why not go straight to communism instead, where money is no object?


Mao tried that didn&#39;t he? Last I saw that failed too.... Whereas Sweden still has a fairly healthy economy last time I checked. So I believe that&#39;s Socialism 1, Communism 0, Capitalism..... :rolleyes:

[Osman Ghazi]

They&#39;re social democrats at best.

[Nas]

Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 29 2004, 11:17 PM
I Am Your Worst Nightmare. I am a BAD American. I am Captialist Imperial.

I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some mid level governmental functionary be it Democratic, Republican,or commie puke&#33;

I think owning a gun doesn&#39;t make you a killer, it makes you a smart American.

I think being a minority does not make you noble or victimized, and does not entitle you to anything.

I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, try to do it in English.

I think fireworks should be legal on the 4th of July.

I think that being a student doesn&#39;t give you any more enlightenment than working at Blockbuster. In fact, if your parents are footing the bill to put your pansy ass through 4 years plus of college, you haven&#39;t begun to be enlightened. However, college is never a bad thing.

I believe everyone has a right to pray to his or her God when and where they want to, but don&#39;t impose it on me, and don&#39;t "pray for me".

My heroes are John Wayne, Ron Reagan, Babe Ruth, Roy Rogers, and whoever canceled Jerry Springer.

I don&#39;t hate the rich. I don&#39;t pity the poor.

I know wrestling is fake and I don&#39;t waste my time arguing about it.

I&#39;ve never owned a slave, or was a slave, I didn&#39;t wander forty years In the desert after getting chased out of Egypt. I haven&#39;t burned any witches or been persecuted by the Turks and neither have you&#33; So, shut-the-Hell-up already.

I want to know which church is it exactly where the Reverend Jesse Jackson practices, where he gets his money, and why he is always part of the problem and not the solution. Can I get an AMEN on that one?

I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry ass if you&#39;re running from them.

I also think they have the right to pull your ass over if you&#39;re breaking the law, regardless of what color you are.

I think if you are too stupid to know how a ballot works, I don&#39;t want you deciding who should be running the most powerful nation in the world for the next four years.

I believe that it doesn&#39;t take a village to raise a child, it takes two parents.
If this makes me a BAD American, then yes, I&#39;m a BAD American.

And I believe that history will show that Iraq will be better off after our action there.
based on your statement , you are not my worst nightmare

you have to understand most of the people here are not ready for a change and many of them are so adapted, so hopelessly dependent on this capitalist system, that they will fight to protect it. :(

ps: i know who my worst nightmare is, trust me people, my homeboy Capitalist Imperial is nothing compare to the real enemy.

Capitalist Imperial, you sound alot like one of my friends, do you live in NY ?

[Capitalist Imperial]

Nah, Cali Yo.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2004, 07:36 PM
So is my response not worth of retort CI? You seem to be gliding over me quite a lot today ;)


No, sir, I saw your resoponse, and I took no exception to your opinions or comments. Any disagreement I had would have been inherent to our fundamental poilitical differences and assumed anyway, so no need to rehash those.

[DaCuBaN]

OK, just making sure you accept that my points are feasible ;)


Nah, Cali Yo.

Not up Redding way are you? Eureka? familiar with the Lesina&#39;s?

[STI]

God help us all. It&#39;s become one of those threads where all people do is talk about where they live and the things around the place where they live and where they live in relation to other members. :P

[DaCuBaN]

Then why not just ignore it? You don&#39;t HAVE to respond to posts you deem irrelevant - that&#39;s one of the reasons for the &#39;report&#39; button ;)

[STI]

Well, one important aspect of my post was its joke-like qualities. I saw that the thread had effectively lost any importance, and decided to add my two cents.

[DaCuBaN]

ah my bad. apologies.

it can be quite difficult to detect these things without the use of emoticons though <_<


They&#39;re social democrats at best.

They have quite a few of the trappings of a socialist state, and certainly they are the best example of applied socialism available to us, as other countries are so horrificly repressed either internally or externally that we can&#39;t get a fair judgement on them

[STI]

ah my bad. apologies.

it can be quite difficult to detect these things without the use of emoticons though


Sorry about that. I should have used emoticons. I&#39;ll edit them in now.

[Osman Ghazi]

But a requisite for socialism is public ownership of, if not everything, then at least key industries like steel and others that are necessary for a workable economy. I&#39;m not entirely sure what the government of Sweden owns, but it is probably just mail, rail, water, health and other basic services. That is why I would still refer to them as social democrats.

[DaCuBaN]

All i&#39;m saying is as far as I&#39;m concerned Social Democrats are still socialists... just socialists that have lost hope in the revolution and submitted to the current system.

I&#39;m paraphrasing but didn&#39;t Ernesto Rafael say that socialism is defined by the lack of exploitation of man on man?

[Don't Change Your Name]

Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 29 2004, 11:17 PM
I think fireworks should be legal on the 4th of July.
I don&#39;t get it. Are you saying that in the "freeest" country in the world fireworks are illegal? Please explain because I live on the other side of America (I mean the real America, not just some imperialist country).


I believe everyone has a right to pray to his or her God when and where they want to, but don&#39;t impose it on me, and don&#39;t "pray for me".

Agree.


I don&#39;t hate the rich. I don&#39;t pity the poor.

Nobody just "hates" the rich. They are also victims of capitalism and all related institutions. The point here is that few of them really "deserve" it.


I&#39;ve never owned a slave, or was a slave

You mean you aren&#39;t an employer? :P


I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry ass if you&#39;re running from them.

No no no no no. That depends a lot on why they are trying to get you. If you are doing some peaceful march and the police starts their classical repression attemps, I say you have the right to run away, especially if they don&#39;t have any reason to do such a thing. Otherwise we would be on the road to fascism.


I believe that it doesn&#39;t take a village to raise a child, it takes two parents.

You are forgetting how important it is for children to relate with other humans and learn from them.


And I believe that history will show that Iraq will be better off after our action there.

Anything would probably better than Saddam for Iraq, I&#39;d say. But I don&#39;t think the yanqui invaders will bring "freedom and democracy". They just can&#39;t. They will have to resort to huge massacres to control Iraq.


So I can work 2x as hard as my neigbor, yet we yield the same benefit? Inequities exist, always havve, and you should get back exactly what you put in.

"Hard work" can&#39;t be measured. You can be an important CEO who think that way but somebody who was born in extreme poverty might "work hard" cleaning toilets and win even less even if his job is much more useful.


Of course, the government. How did I gueess? Lets punish the successful, because it is our job to decide when someone has earned enough, regardless of how much work they have put into their enterprise or contributed to the economy, and of course considering that they already paid more taxes than others, compared to a welfare mother that continues to lay around and eat lays potato chips and pumping out extra babies out of wedlock to increase her "state-sponsored allowance" while watching Springer and not looking for a job.

The "economy" is another fictional entity that capitalism worships in excess (together with "laws", "the individual" and "private property").
And your idea of the "welfare mother" that has kids just to "increase here state-sponsored allowance" is just a sterotype from you "free" society. You&#39;re falling in the fallacy that claims that "all my hard earned money (sic) is stolen by those lazy niggers by the oppresive communist government", and you think they drink champagne all day long and drive a Ferrari with that money (sure...they probably make U&#036;S1000000 a day thanks to those "socialist policies" :lol: ). Plus that money will probably be used by them to buy things from the corporations of those "successful exceptional hard-working entrepeneurs", or save it to invest later (better for the "economy", or maybe it isn&#39;t because it creates more competition for their products??? :rolleyes: ), and it wouldn&#39;t be needed if that "glorious market" would produce more workplaces and give more opportunities to poor people (who arent guilty of being born in that situation or with such bad parents or in such a bad environment, it depends of course).

I agree with some other thingsw you mentioned.

[John Galt]

Originally posted by Osman [email protected] 29 2004, 11:32 PM
Actually, it does make you victimized. That is a fact. Notice how there is no racism directed at white people (except the black panthers, but they never did much
Bullshit.


Affirmative Action.

[Hampton]

The primary beneficiaries of Affirmative Action have been white women.

Go figure.

[Yazman]

Mao tried that didn&#39;t he? Last I saw that failed too....

No, Mao never tried that, and his ideas did not fail, although the Great Leap Forward did.

China under Mao did not fail, China under Deng Xiaoping and the rest of the cappie reformists failed. Get your facts straight, comrade.

[Xvall]

I believe I&#39;m sick and tired of you cutting and pasting something that I could find on Totse. This thing was made like, nine friggin years ago.

[Xvall]

I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some mid level governmental functionary be it Democratic, Republican,or cutie pie&#33;

This contradics the point you make later about the police, who are funded soley by tax dollars, and not hired by corporations, unless you want to advocate the ownership of the police force by corporations; hell, that&#39;s nothing new.


I think owning a gun doesn&#39;t make you a killer, it makes you a smart American.

I don&#39;t think owning a gun makes you a killer either. Many of us don&#39;t stands for anti-gun laws. Keep in mind though, if you kill someone with a gun, you are a killer. Whether your killing was justified or not is arguable, but you are a killer nonetheless when you do such a thing.


I think being a minority does not make you noble or victimized, and does not entitle you to anything.

I don&#39;t think it entitles me to anything either, including having the shit cussed/kicked out of me.


I believe everyone has a right to pray to his or her God when and where they want to, but don&#39;t impose it on me, and don&#39;t "pray for me".

This one, I actually agree with you with entirely.


I know wrestling is fake and I don&#39;t waste my time arguing about it.

See above.


I&#39;ve never owned a slave, or was a slave, I didn&#39;t wander forty years In the desert after getting chased out of Egypt. I haven&#39;t burned any witches or been persecuted by the Turks and neither have you&#33; So, shut-the-Hell-up already.

See above.


I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry ass if you&#39;re running from them.

I see where this is going, but sometimes innocent people run away when they fear that the police officers are engaging in acts of brutality against this, which does happen occasionally.


I also think they have the right to pull your ass over if you&#39;re breaking the law, regardless of what color you are.

Understandable.


And I believe that history will show that Iraq will be better off after our action there.

I can&#39;t argue about that one. We will have to wait.

That is all.

[Maynard]

This is just plagiarism, with a few changes to update it and personalise it, as Drake Dracoli pointed out, of a E Mail hoax, falsely attributed to George Carlin, who did not write it.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blbadamerican.htm

[Nyder]

The rich aren&#39;t that bad. What about the &#39;trickle down&#39; effect of wealth creation?

[Cerebral Knievel]

I Am Your Worst Nightmare. I am a BAD American. I am Captialist Imperial.

I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some mid level governmental functionary be it Democratic, Republican,or commie puke&#33;

Remember that when you are reaching for a social security check in a few years.

I think owning a gun doesn&#39;t make you a killer, it makes you a smart American.

Why is that the people who praise the military and the police the most (repub uber-patriot unca sam cheerleader types) feel the need to own private arsenals in preparation for when they (police, and soldiers) try to take over?

I think being a minority does not make you noble or victimized, and does not entitle you to anything.

I&#39;d be glad give up any of the mythical advantages of being one of the many shades of brown in America in exchange for the social invisibility and "benefit of the doubt" that "whites" get.

I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, try to do it in English.

Newsflash: America doesn&#39;t have an official language. Your convience is not legally binding.

I think fireworks should be legal on the 4th of July.

This I actually agree with. Let dumbasses blow their fingers off if they want to. It isn&#39;t a free society unless you are allowed as much leeway to pursue your own death as you are to preserve your own life.

I think that being a student doesn&#39;t give you any more enlightenment than working at Blockbuster. In fact, if your parents are footing the bill to put your pansy ass through 4 years plus of college, you haven&#39;t begun to be enlightened. However, college is never a bad thing.

College IS a rip off, however you overestimate the mental stimulation of working a cash register, and underestimate the effect of prolonged exposure to diverse social groups on your world view. It is very easy to maintain preconcieved notions and prejudices if you are only exposed to differing groups for 3 minutes at a time.

I believe everyone has a right to pray to his or her God when and where they want to, but don&#39;t impose it on me, and don&#39;t "pray for me".

Religious beliefs, like sexual practices should be primarily a private affair. I don&#39;t want to know if you worship trees or fantasize about midgets.

My heroes are John Wayne, Ron Reagan, Babe Ruth, Roy Rogers, and whoever canceled Jerry Springer.

So basically you worship being being entertained by historic inaccuracies that plays to the "white" american male ego and selective free speech?

I don&#39;t hate the rich. I don&#39;t pity the poor.

I don&#39;t like the scarcity mindstate that makes people want to be "rich".

I know wrestling is fake and I don&#39;t waste my time arguing about it.

woopity-doo.

I&#39;ve never owned a slave, or was a slave, I didn&#39;t wander forty years In the desert after getting chased out of Egypt. I haven&#39;t burned any witches or been persecuted by the Turks and neither have you&#33; So, shut-the-Hell-up already.

You&#39;ve never been pulled over by the cops for having a nice car, followed around in a store, had random people lock their doors when you walk past their car, had women pull their purses closer, or had a toothless redneck call you a "lazy, good for nothing, n*gger" while you were in your military dress uniform either (and come to accept the fact that you are trained to defend his right to say it to you), so shut-the-hell up already. You have no perspective.

I want to know which church is it exactly where the Reverend Jesse Jackson practices, where he gets his money, and why he is always part of the problem and not the solution. Can I get an AMEN on that one?

Okay. Jesse Jackson DOES suck. I concede that point.

I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry ass if you&#39;re running from them.

You&#39;re right..non-whites in this country have no reason to fear the cops.

I also think they have the right to pull your ass over if you&#39;re breaking the law, regardless of what color you are.

The complaint has never been about being pulled over because you ARE breaking the law. The complaint is being pulled over because you "fit the description." But if you post something like this, you have no perspective.

I think if you are too stupid to know how a ballot works, I don&#39;t want you deciding who should be running the most powerful nation in the world for the next four years.

I think if you believe that the popular vote elects the president, you&#39;re too stupid to have an opinion on politics anyway.

I believe that it doesn&#39;t take a village to raise a child, it takes two parents.
If this makes me a BAD American, then yes, I&#39;m a BAD American.

Does this extend to same-sex couples or just the "traditional family"

And I believe that history will show that Iraq will be better off after our action there.

You&#39;re right the Iraqi theocracy will wield more power in the region than Saddam Hussein&#39;s secular dictatorship ever did.

[Osman Ghazi]

Keynes said nearly a hundred years ago that trickle down economics were a fraud. Think about it, if you have more money, you&#39;re going to use it to make more money. It helps the rich get richer, but it doesn&#39;t do a whole hell of a lot else.

[Professor Moneybags]

Originally posted by Osman [email protected] 2 2004, 12:55 PM
Keynes said nearly a hundred years ago that trickle down economics were a fraud.
Keynesian economics were a fraud.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2004, 08:36 AM
Well under socialism, as someone said, society would be your family. personally I don&#39;t like socialism that much, it has this embarressing tendency to... FAIL.
Why not go straight to communism instead, where money is no object?


OMG&#33;

if anything has failed its been communism, did the imperialist USSR and its utter collapse just part of my imagination?

Anyway socialism is mearly the idea that all wealth and means of produce should be shared between every one, an all encompasing ideal which includes many ideologies, communism included.

Keynesian economics were a fraud.

yes I have to say I agree with you, his views on the German reparations question were highly inaccurate, as history has shown us.

[Osman Ghazi]

Keynesian economics were a fraud.

Prove it.

[thatCHEr]

believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some mid level governmental functionary be it Democratic, Republican,or commie puke&#33;
Hear hear.


I Am Your Worst Nightmare. I am a BAD American. I am Captialist Imperial.
doesn&#39;t sound too bad to me, apart from the security and Iraq stuff.

[Hoppe]

Originally posted by Osman [email protected] 3 2004, 12:52 PM
Prove it.
Theory or practice?

Why bother btw, he was still a "bourgeois" economist so his judgement was clearly influenced by capitalism.

[Funky Monk]

Thatcher was quite into Keynes and the trickle down theory.

[Felicia]

Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 29 2004, 08:17 PM
I Am Your Worst Nightmare. I am a BAD American. I am Captialist Imperial.

I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some mid level governmental functionary be it Democratic, Republican,or commie puke&#33;

I think owning a gun doesn&#39;t make you a killer, it makes you a smart American.

I think being a minority does not make you noble or victimized, and does not entitle you to anything.

I believe that if you are selling me a Big Mac, try to do it in English.

I think fireworks should be legal on the 4th of July.

I think that being a student doesn&#39;t give you any more enlightenment than working at Blockbuster. In fact, if your parents are footing the bill to put your pansy ass through 4 years plus of college, you haven&#39;t begun to be enlightened. However, college is never a bad thing.

I believe everyone has a right to pray to his or her God when and where they want to, but don&#39;t impose it on me, and don&#39;t "pray for me".

My heroes are John Wayne, Ron Reagan, Babe Ruth, Roy Rogers, and whoever canceled Jerry Springer.

I don&#39;t hate the rich. I don&#39;t pity the poor.

I know wrestling is fake and I don&#39;t waste my time arguing about it.

I&#39;ve never owned a slave, or was a slave, I didn&#39;t wander forty years In the desert after getting chased out of Egypt. I haven&#39;t burned any witches or been persecuted by the Turks and neither have you&#33; So, shut-the-Hell-up already.

I want to know which church is it exactly where the Reverend Jesse Jackson practices, where he gets his money, and why he is always part of the problem and not the solution. Can I get an AMEN on that one?

I think the cops have every right to shoot your sorry ass if you&#39;re running from them.

I also think they have the right to pull your ass over if you&#39;re breaking the law, regardless of what color you are.

I think if you are too stupid to know how a ballot works, I don&#39;t want you deciding who should be running the most powerful nation in the world for the next four years.

I believe that it doesn&#39;t take a village to raise a child, it takes two parents.
If this makes me a BAD American, then yes, I&#39;m a BAD American.

And I believe that history will show that Iraq will be better off after our action there.
this rant reminds me of something.......... oh yeah&#33;


My name is Joe, and I AM CANADIAN....



ok, that&#39;s all I have at the moment. :ph34r:

[thatCHEr]

Originally posted by Funky [email protected] 3 2004, 05:18 PM
Thatcher was quite into Keynes and the trickle down theory.
Not really, considering how she undid a lot of the policies the labour party implemented on the basis of his economics. She was much more in favour of Milton Friedmans economic theory.