Cool Movement - is it a USA´s weapon?

[Vladimir Ulianov]

I think fashions are made for making a suitable thinking way in the youth when capitalist countries need the support of the young people...

I begin to believe that every piece of cool clothes and complements are made for attracting the youth and getting the fashion modal...

the perfect world with the perfect people for Capitalism system...

I´d rather be dead than cool...

[Kez]

Fuck capitalisms fashion,

make your own

comrade kamo

[BOZG]

I know many won't agree with this but I don't agree with necessarily destroying Corporations like Nike, Gap etc but rather in destroying their whole power structure, reducing prices drastically and paying the workers an actual wage.

[guerrillaradio]

Zapata - I dunno, I think you maybe right. We can't destroy a corporation merely because they are rich. We would be much better off pushing and lobbying for changes within the system so Nike and Gap's obvious faults are eradicated...

[sabre]

well the fact that they are a huge corporation l;ets them rip off said workers, so by destroying the corporation you also free these workers and give them a chance to live their own life

[Lardlad95]

Zapata is right we shouldn't destroy companies...we should simply restructure them. Which is one of socialisi'ms benifeits it allows a "free market" so to speak but it is regulated by the government so they can't become large heartless corparations.

It doesn't matter what fashions I were, I'll never be cool. I mean I'm the only person in my class who knows who CHe, Engels, Marx, Leninn, or stalin are. PLus when when everyone else is talking I'm reading encyclopedias to further my political knowledge....oh my God...I am a geek

[Kez]

So if nike payed good wages, not slaves, and prices were good, then would they be "good" companies?
But why should we kneel to their fashion, they are only exploiting our greed and jeaousy, which leads us to buy so much wank

comrade kamo

[Lardlad95]

good companies are ones tat aren't manipulative and are fAir to employes

yeah alot of fashion is stupid looking any way...like those Kobe Bryant shoes...they look like something out of Tron

[AgustoSandino]

to each his own

[peaccenicked]

Capitalism creates more diversity, some of it is pretentious bull but let us not destroy diversity let us destroy capitalism.

[I Will Deny You]

I think trends are just part of human nature. I'm sure lots of communists went out and bought berets after they saw Che in one. You even see it in neighborhoods, one kids starts wearing something different, and then the rest of his friends wear it too. But designers definitely take advantage of that, creating new clothes for every single season and using the same colors as the makeup companies.

[BOZG]

Peaccenicked is right. Capitalism has created diversity but at a price.

Kamo, would you prefer to conform to the same clothes as everyone or to be different?

[I Will Deny You]

Quote: from BornOfZapatasGuns on 5:45 pm on Mar. 4, 2002
would you prefer to conform to the same clothes as everyone or to be different?See, it's that mentality that we should get rid of. No, you should not wear something just because it's "cool." But at the same time, you should not wear something just to make a statement about how uncool you are. So I don't give a fuck if what I wear is cool, uncool, or completely off the map. (I think I've written about this before . . . why is it always an issue?) People should just wear what they like without wondering, "does this shirt reflect who I really am?" or, "are these pants 'cool' enough?" So even though I smoke the occasional joint, go to rock concerts and enjoy the Supermale stylings of Alfred Jarry among other things, you shouldn't be surprised to find me in a pair of black slacks. By the same token, I'm a good student at a decent college, I work hard and I'm not particularly stupid but I'll still throw on one of my parents' hash-scented tye-dyed t-shirts if I'm not going to work. So there I am, stylish and unstylish, yet somehow I'm not making any statement at all. But I'm wearing what I like and that's what matters.

(Edited by I Will Deny You at 6:33 pm on Mar. 4, 2002)

[BOZG]

We should get rid of the mentality of being unique an different in our appearances?

I'm not saying we should always try to look 'cool' I'm saying that companies like Nike make a wide range of clothes and that it means that not everyone wears the exact same thing like in places like China.

[I Will Deny You]

I said that we should get rid of the mentality that we should go out of our way to be unique in our appearances. Whether or not we look unique isn't even the issue--it's whether we look the way we want to. I'm wearing brown boot-cut pants and a dark blue shirt right now. It's hardly unique, but I don't care. There are kids at my school (and every other college across the country) who tell me I "blend in" too much and I think they're full of shit. If someone's happy in jeans and a t-shirt, then that's what they should wear.

[guerrillaradio]

Yeah OK, so you shouldn't wear clothes because they're cool or uncool, but that's not to say you shouldn't wear clothes you think are cool. I guess in many ways I'm part of the baggy jeans parade currently spreading across the UK. Difference is, I've been doing it for 3/4 years and I hate Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park. Anyways, back to the point. I choose my clothes because I like them and I think they're cool (cool as in good, not fashionable). People accuse me of trying to attract attention to myself by wearing controversial clothes (sick...at this skool baggy jeans and a black hoodie is considered controversial and extreme) but that really isn't the case. I wear baggy jeans and a hoodie primarily because they're comfortable, but also because I like them.

Enough shallow fashion talk, let's get back onto the subject of large corporations. Yeah Nike, Gap etc are all horrendous corporations, but if we are to eradicate their wrongdoings, then we have no justification to destroy them. Cos if we do that, where does it end?? With no companies or shops at all and everything homemade, like the Third World???

[BOZG]

My definition of 'unique' mightn't of been clear. It was meant that we shouldn't try to look like others but that we should wear what WE want as you have said.

Guerrilla, I too get accused of trying to attract attention to myself cause I wear bandanas and baggy clothes. The only reason I wear them is that they are much more comfortable than normal clothes.

[Markxs]

capitalism has created nothing more then ppl who act like sheep. the diversity which you speak of is nothing more then buying something because someone else wears it. the real diversity comes indeed from home made clothes. diversity in clothes and minds can in no way be masproduced, how could ppl like us care for a brand name? the only argument for wearing produced clothes is that you dont have the ability to make your own.

according to me the most ideal situation would be ppl making their own clothes that means no more slave labour and more diversity. i think ppl could express themselves with clothes, like ppl can paint a painting to express themselves. those fake 'alternative' ppl or fashion slaves. who are being cool i dont get that. and wear your clothes till you either outgrow them or they are unwearable because of the holes.

would you ppl wear 2nd hand clothing. do you buy clothes a lot?

i think ppl should support coorporations as least as posible in every way posible.

[liderDeFARC]

I think we should reconstruct the companies change their name (that is a key step)

because we wouldnt want people to have clothing that would rip in a month, i have always thought about that.

and yes the workers would be getting a good wage and the governemnt would control it. (Utopia!)