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Dan_Canadian
27th April 2004, 01:07
Ok, i'm getting good at this hold on....oh i love arguing

YOU CAN'T bE an anarchist-communist...doesn't work that way folks. Don't pretend you don't exist, i've heard ppl say they are here.

When I first heard of it, it reminded me of a humerous simpsons episode, with Mcbain in it. He was getting attacked by "commie-nazis." LoL.

Definition of Anarchism: A Political belief that oppression comes from the state and therefore must be overthrown. Communists have always opposed the idea of anarchism

Let the debate...BEGIN!

mysticofthewest
27th April 2004, 01:18
anarchist are nothting more than impatient communist

Dan_Canadian
27th April 2004, 01:22
Anarchists...uhh, i give up.

Essential Insignificance
27th April 2004, 01:31
anarchist are nothting more than impatient communist

What...

Vinny Rafarino
27th April 2004, 01:33
You are confused as to what communism is.


I understand that you have been spoon fed a canned theory about communism your entire life so I will go easy on you. I suggest you do some research (try to stay away from right wing "slag sites") about communism prior to attacking its ideology.



Communists have always opposed the idea of anarchism




Not exactly. both communists and anarchist want exactly the same thing, a stateless society that has evolved beyond the monetary system.

What communists and anarchist generally disgree on is "how" to achieve this goal. The majority of communists prefer to obtain a stateless society through several socio-economic stages, the last being the "socialist" stage. During this stage, the masses will be re-educated and prepared for the final transition to a stateless society.

Anarchists believe that once a socialists society evolves, the state will inevitably become "oppressive" and "corrupted" and will never allow the governing factor to "wither away", therefore the masses must become "suddenly enlightened" and "jump" directly to communism.

(Yeah, I know)

Dan_Canadian
27th April 2004, 01:40
Blah blah blah thanks buddy i think you suceeded in putting everyone to sleep with your inane blabber that i've heard a thousand times. Actually don't assume where I get my information BUDDY. I got most of my info from this website, not right wing slag sites, i've never even been. Other than that i've been to the LIBRARY and read up on MARXISM and what HE said. I;m giving the facts unlike you. You just write up paragraphs and paras of what YOU think anarchists are and what YOU think communists are. Speak for yourself...I'm telling you what the man (marx) said..not some bozo on a commie forum.

Osman Ghazi
27th April 2004, 02:16
Listen, you twat. First of all, what he said was a very precise and accurate assessment of teh anarchist/communist situation. Secondly, Marx can blow it out of his ass. We aren't hero-worshippers. We realize that there were more influences on modern communism than just Marx. Maybe you should try reading some Engles. He did write The Principles of Communism, you know.

Dan_Canadian
27th April 2004, 02:27
I'll read marx cause he makes the most sense, you guys make no sense, you have no sense about how the world works, or why people do the things they do. Take a psychology class or somehting, you don't have a clue about human nature.

DaCuBaN
27th April 2004, 02:33
Dan, I'm not a moderator here, so please take this as it's meant - a friendly warning from one user to another. People don't like being unsulted or poo-pooed when you don't like what they are saying. So long as you keep away from that the mods won't ban or restrict you - which they will do if they even smell the slightest piggy whiff from ya :D :lol:

That said there is two threads in a row where you've tried to tail off someone's perfectly logical and reasonable argument by going 'blah blah blah' .Now, you've intimated you are still in school, so I'll excuse this immature style on your lack of years, but chill it man - it's making you no friends ;) If you don't like what someone is saying, research the topic and prove them wrong - 9/10 times you can do this just by visiting www.google.com

Dan_Canadian
27th April 2004, 02:38
Yea i'm saying blah blah blah cause i give up sometimes, its very frusterating. It's quite tame compared to what most people say. And don't go all high and mighty on me buddy, its easy for you to say that he's right and you're right because you have plenty of people to back you up. I'm not assuming you havn't, but you might wanna broaden your horizens and go to some cappie messsage boards and be challenged on your views, and be the underdog for once. And please, don't assume i'm a capitalist, as you said i'm immature and I don't know my place in the world yet. Don't assume I am anything, I don't even know who I am yet, I don't expect to know any time soon. Unlike some people i will be patient in regards to finding my political standpoint, rather than jumping right in.

DSCH
27th April 2004, 02:50
Anarchism and Communism are polar opposites.

New Tolerance
27th April 2004, 02:52
Is there still a point to this thread?...


Anarchism and Communism are polar opposites.

Well, I guess by calling your self an Anarcho-Communist, you just mean that you r not a Libertarian Anarchist.

Essential Insignificance
27th April 2004, 02:53
Anarchism and Communism are polar opposites.

Are you ''sure'' about that....

DaCuBaN
27th April 2004, 02:53
It's good to see that you're taking time before commiting yourself one way or the other, but you'll never learn anything if you simply dismiss arguments you don't like the sound of. Take this thread for example. You ask a question, get a good answer and then basically tell the guy who went out of his way to try and help you that you think he's talking out his arse and to shut up. How do you think people are going to react to that?

As for visiting cappie boards... you think I'm crazy? the OI forums in here are enough to keep my argumentative side satisfied till the armageddon. Not to mention the fact that the last time I checked I was living in a capitalist country and had to fight every single day simply to get a shred of credibility given my self confessed political stand point as a socialist

Like yourself, all I know is I'm for people not money... other than that I've not confined myself to any specific ideology - I find that idea patently preposterous.

New Tolerance
27th April 2004, 02:55
A bunch of us has been in conservative forums, a bunch of us got kicked out...

Urban Rubble
27th April 2004, 02:58
I think we'd all benefit if this thread was put in the trash. This kid has no clue what he is talking about, and he won't discuss because he is too busy writing inane posts and creating arguments out of nowhere.

Listen kid, nobody has attacked you, and nobody is attacking your views, because you haven't expressed any. More than one person has responded in a clear and consice manner and you can't even be bothered to respond, or even write a legible post. How old are you ?

synthesis
27th April 2004, 02:58
You aren't going about this in a very good manner, Dan.

You start off with an unfounded assertion and follow it up with:


Let the debate...BEGIN!

When someone who is quite clearly knowledgeable about radical leftist theory - I believe RAF has been a staunch leftist for about 20 years now - steps in to attempt to redefine your incorrect definition of the terms involved, you angrily reply with:


Blah blah blah thanks buddy i think you suceeded in putting everyone to sleep with your inane blabber that i've heard a thousand times. (etc.)

If you can't handle the heat, don't get on the streets, man :)

DaCuBaN
27th April 2004, 03:01
think we'd all benefit if this thread was put in the trash. This kid has no clue what he is talking about, and he won't discuss because he is too busy writing inane posts and creating arguments out of nowhere

I'll second that - this thread's going nowhere. Sorry :rolleyes:

New Tolerance
27th April 2004, 03:04
I just hope that no one feels offended... :unsure: (if you are sending this to the trash)

synthesis
27th April 2004, 03:05
Originally posted by Urban [email protected] 26 2004, 07:58 PM
I think we'd all benefit if this thread was put in the trash. This kid has no clue what he is talking about, and he won't discuss because he is too busy writing inane posts and creating arguments out of nowhere.
I concur, but at least he seems to understand just how new he is to this game. I don't think this thread needs to be closed immediately.

DSCH
27th April 2004, 03:05
Originally posted by Urban [email protected] 27 2004, 02:58 AM
I think we'd all benefit if this thread was put in the trash.
Typical fascist reply.

synthesis
27th April 2004, 03:13
Originally posted by DSCH+Apr 26 2004, 08:05 PM--> (DSCH @ Apr 26 2004, 08:05 PM)
Urban [email protected] 27 2004, 02:58 AM
I think we'd all benefit if this thread was put in the trash.
Typical fascist reply. [/b]
Typical fascist reply.

Vinny Rafarino
27th April 2004, 03:24
I concur, but at least he seems to understand just how new he is to this game. I don't think this thread needs to be closed immediately.


Agreed. The boy obviously was not here to learn. I will close the thread in place of tossing it out just so we can have a laugh at the kid.

I specifically like the "blah blah blah". I reckon the boy just watched Hurley Burley.