Best Songwrite Ever?

[Hate Is Art]

Who does everyone thing is the most capable songwriter ever?
I don't mean who has the best voice or writes the best music, I mean lyricaly, who's lyrics are the most inspiring and moving.

My vote goes to Bob Dylan, his lyrics are so fucking amazing it's almost horribly disgusting how amazing how of his songs are!! Something like "Subterean Homesick Blues" or "Shelter from the Storm" are just amazing, the ballad of the Hurricane is also a fucking amazing song.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

I also vote Bob Dylan. And when you rate songwriters, there is more than just lyrics. His songs were incredibly melodic, some involved great guitar riffs and briliant solos like All Along the Watchtower. Which, by the way, also had some amazing drum parts.

He gets my vote for everything on Highway 61 Revisited, Blowing in the Wind, and Subterranean Homesick Blues.

Rivaling Bob is John Lennon and Page.

[monkeydust]

Bah........... lyrics ;)

I've never seen why lyrics are given so much attention in music. In my opinion they are quite seperate from music, though of course good lyrics are favourable.

I personally feel that overemphasis on lyrics has, in part been a cause for recent stagnation in musical creativity. Much modern modern music tends to fit into the basic 'verse-chorus' 'mould' which I think is a great shame. I often prefer instrumental music, myself.

If the question was concenring the best composer, undoubatedly names such as Bach, Beethoven, Stravinsky and Debussy would appear.

As it's concerning lyrics, I suppose I'll opt for Bob Dylan as well.

Edit:Also, who ever wrote the music to Spinal Tap is undoubtedly a lyrical genius.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

When we say songwriter, we're talking about all aspects of music. Vocals, instrumentals, drums, everything.

Bob Dylan is (was, perhaps) a master at writing beatiful pieces involving a wide array of instruments.

[Mano Dayak]

Bob Dylan, no question.

[Hampton]

Here's me out on my limb:

Tupac Shakur.

[IPkurd]

Tupac + Ahmet kaya (kurdish protest singer) but sings in turkish

[Jesus Christ]

the best songs are currently being written by a man named Chris Carrabba
hes a damn genius

[hawarameen]

dylan gets nowhere near lennon in my oppinion.

lennon is the best. no rival. end of story.

[iwwobblie]

Ani Difranco

[fernando]

Trent Reznor, Tim Skold, Sascha Konietsko

[Invader Zim]

Nicky wire, Richey Edwards and Maynard keenan.

[Jesus Christ]

once again,
Chris Carrabba
http://www.crazewire.com/artwork/features/bands/cw.dashboardchris.jpg

[Purple]

pink floyd of course...........

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Roger Waters and David Gilmour, to be precise, were also damn geniuses.
Good call.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2004, 07:52 PM
Roger Waters and David Gilmour, to be precise, were also damn geniuses.
Good call.
Absolutly, though would their lyrics largley be considered as good as some other bands?

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

I'm not sure I understand what you're sying. But their lyrics were incredible.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2004, 08:06 PM
I'm not sure I understand what you're sying. But their lyrics were incredible.
Im saying that pink floyd are a fantastic band, musically genius. But I what I was trying to ask is do you think that their lyrics were as good as the music.

IMO they had some really great lyrics in some songs, but they were relativly few. Thats my opinion, but I am more interested to here yours.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

I think their lyrics were 'up to par' with their songs. Deffinitely. A lot of people say that the quality of the lyrics really declined after Waters left the group, but I don't know about that. A Momentary Lapse of reason has good lyrics. The music itself declined much more than the lyrics.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2004, 08:36 PM
I think their lyrics were 'up to par' with their songs. Deffinitely. A lot of people say that the quality of the lyrics really declined after Waters left the group, but I don't know about that. A Momentary Lapse of reason has good lyrics. The music itself declined much more than the lyrics.
I have to say that the lyrics on "wish you were here" were great, but some songs from say DSOTM, I didn't quite get. Like Breath just confused me? I dont know, maybe its a requirment to be stonned and drunk to get that one.

[Rastafari]

Edit:Also, who ever wrote the music to Spinal Tap is undoubtedly a lyrical genius

haha. seen.


my vote goes to somebody in folk, probably. Maybe Joan Baez or old Woody. I don't know though. Garcia and Taj Mahal both make me laugh.

wait! Whoever did the lyrics for Spirit or King Crimson.
or that jew cat who wrote Strange Fruit

[(*]

Cat Stevens

[Hegemonicretribution]

Some of Freddie Mercury's lyrics were great, although that wasn't where he was strongest, he just wrote great songs. Frank Zappa = lyrical genius.

DSOTM lots of interpertations. Pressures of modern life, loss of sanity. Darker references about drugs and death (Syd Barret)? I think the fact that you can read as much or as little into it as you want makes it a great album whatever state you are in. You don'thave to be stoned to appreciate it.

[mentalbunny]

Ani Difranco, or the Alkaline Trio boys. Stereophonics first album is up there, but after that they fucked it all up.

And I'd like to put in a bid (whatever) for Andy Clift of #1 defender. That guy can write, well I think so.