Punishing other People

[Raisa]

Plain and simple. I dont see how some one having the right to "punish" some one else, or justice coming from punishment will make us equal.

Tell me what you think.

[God of Imperia]

What do you mean with punishing and in which context?

[cebert]

Punishment is supposed to be a deterrent agains crime, not make us all equal. Personally I favour rehabilitation over punishment. It works in the Scandinavian countries.

[atlanticche]

all i can see in this point is that someone doesnt understand what socialism and stalinism actually is

[Invader Zim]

State execution is the first and most repugnant of all signs that basic human freedoms are being eroded.

It also doesnt work, the countires that attempt to rehabilitate rather than punish have far less reoffenders than the countries that punish rather than rehabilitate.

[Raisa]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2004, 07:20 PM
State execution is the first and most repugnant of all signs that basic human freedoms are being eroded.

It also doesnt work, the countires that attempt to rehabilitate rather than punish have far less reoffenders than the countries that punish rather than rehabilitate.
I agree with you.
People find satisfaction in making others pay, but I think if they feel ok doing you that bad, they dont really have any thing to "pay" for you any way. Its a void, and we should be progressive instead and rehabilitate people.

[Hate Is Art]

Justice was invented by the good because they can't see how someone could do something wrong, mercy was invented by the weak and evil because they will one day be in the position of the offender.

We can't let things go un-punished, executions are a nessescary part of post-revolutionary society but once socialism has been established and the old state shattered they should be done away with.

I agree with rehabilitation for some crimes, but most crimes that can be rehabilitated won't exist in a post-revolutionary society. Theft will dissapear, possesion is 9/10 of the law, but with no private property 9/10 of the law won't be relevant.

The other 1/10 of the law consist's of un rehabiliatable crimes and people who deserve any punishment they recieve, peadophilia, assult, murder etc

[Pawn Power]

you question wasent very specific but i agree punishment is more often then not , not the answer to the problem. Howevery in a communist state their will be a tremendouse decrise in all types of crime because the standard of living will be so much higher for everyone

[Essential Insignificance]

Although the original post is awfully formless and unspecific…I think I get it. But I am guessing that she is referring to "punishment" after the proletarian revolution.

It's always going to depend on the "crime"…if one is proven "guilty" post revolution of counter revolutionary acts, then as far as I am concerned, they’re off to the "firing squad".

But if one is caught "stealing" (which I highly doubt) or anything to that effect…something rather petite will be in order for them.

These are only guesses…who knows what differing forms of justice, will be in a communist society.

[Misodoctakleidist]

Originally posted by Digital [email protected] 26 2004, 08:36 PM
Justice was invented by the good because they can't see how someone could do something wrong, mercy was invented by the weak and evil because they will one day be in the position of the offender.
'Justice' was invented by the ignorant becuase they can't see how someone could do something they don't agree with.

Law was invented by the powerful becuase they need it to rule.


We can't let things go un-punished
Why not, 'punishment' has obsolutely no positive sides and plety of negative ones.

[toastedmonkey]

you do realise there is no government in communism, who do you suppose will enforce these punishments? the local community then they are just vigilantes.

Rehabilitation is undoubtly (in theory) better than punishment, im not too sure how it goes in practice. Someone mentioned Scandenavia, has anyone got any links?

[perception]

Originally posted by Digital [email protected] 26 2004, 03:36 PM
Justice was invented by the good because they can't see how someone could do something wrong, mercy was invented by the weak and evil because they will one day be in the position of the offender.

that's a perversion of one of Nietzche's more powerful insights