Control Your Emotions

[The Divine]

Music is a moral law. It gives soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination, and charm and gaiety to life and to everything. -Plato

How very true. I find music to be one of the most effect and influenctial things on emotions. Certian songs make you feel certian things. You listen to your screamo music and you will feel thier sorrow and pain, you listen to you heart warming songs, you will feel happier and better about yourself. If you know your music and the affects it has upon you, you may easily control your own feelings. There are many ways to control how you feel, and i find music to be one of the easiest to use.

And yes, you can control your own emotions. If you can alter, change, and heal your physical health, why shouldnt you be able to do the same for your emtional health?

[Pawn Power]

long live revolution rock!

[monkeydust]

I somewhat agree with this, though we need to be careful when using a Plato quote here.

We know very little about Greek music. Together with Roman music (which presumably was very similar) we have some 5 or 6 written examples, though we know not how to interpret them. Moreover, much music of the time was largely improvised.

There are indications that Greek music utilized 8 notes between what we call a tone. Such subdivision is unprecedented in any music we have today, even Eastern music. If we heard ancient music today, it would sound unbelievably odd.

However, many Ancient writers attribue great feelings to music, even claiming it has hypnotic effects. As we cannot possibly hear such music, we cannot judge this for ourselves; it's not entirely beyond the realms of possibility that the music actually had these effects.

As the music Plato listened to would have been unbelievably different to ours, something he said about his music may not necessarily apply to ours, because of the integral differences between the kind of sounds being heard.

But in any case, it's a nice quote, and is probably true nonetheless.

[Pedro Alonso Lopez]

Dionysus!

[The Divine]

No matter the type, genre, or style of music, it will still express emotions and cause reaction within a spiritual sense. Dont take me wrong, of course their music was completly different then that of what we have today, but it was still music.

[Pedro Alonso Lopez]

Music is the highest form of Dionysian art so in opinion holds a very special place in the aesthetics of the modern man.

[Invader Zim]

I hate it when people describe music as art, it is not. Music is something higher, and less physical, than art.

[Pedro Alonso Lopez]

I hate it when people believe calling something art is somehow deogratory.

Why is art physical?

In fact explain why art has to be physical?

[monkeydust]

Music is an art.

I don't see how describing it as so makes it in any way 'low'.

On the other hand music can at times seem almost 'scientific'. It is by far the most mathematical of all the arts, many great musicians such as J.S.Bach were in fact excellent mathematicians in many ways.

Some of Bach's fugues are are both musical and mathematical masterpieces.

[Raisa]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2004, 07:17 PM
Music is an art.

I don't see how describing it as so makes it in any way 'low'.

On the other hand music can at times seem almost 'scientific'. It is by far the most mathematical of all the arts, many great musicians such as J.S.Bach were in fact excellent mathematicians in many ways.

Some of Bach's fugues are are both musical and mathematical masterpieces.
Its much easyer for any one, even a blind person to communicate their feelings in a picture, more then music.

[dark fairy]

to me music is a way of life it is how i live my life the day doesn't go by without me listening to something cleasing...
music it everything!!!! to me

[Rasta Sapian]

"the best thing about music, is when it hits you, its feels soooo good...........
hit me with the music now, hit me with the music................"

Trenchtown Rock, Bob Marley

[monkeydust]

Its much easyer for any one, even a blind person to communicate their feelings in a picture, more then music.

It's certainly not for me :P

I am much more able to communicate emotions through music than through a picture, largely due to my absolutely dire artistic ability (as opposed to mediocre musical ability).

I also 'feel' music much more than I do art. I personally can experience deeper emotions from listening to music than from looking at a picture.

Maybe it's just me, but I doubt it.

[Trissy]

I find music to be one of the most effect and influenctial things on emotions. Certian songs make you feel certian things. You listen to your screamo music and you will feel thier sorrow and pain, you listen to you heart warming songs, you will feel happier and better about yourself.

I agree entirely, but could it not also be said that emotions effect music? Personally my mood effects what music I choose to listen too, and to some extent how I interpret the music itself. Sometimes when I'm angry or sad I'm just not in the mood to control my emotions as such, and instead prefer to go with their flow. Sometimes you find new meaning to songs if you listen to them whilst feeling different strengths of emotions.


I hate it when people describe music as art, it is not. Music is something higher, and less physical, than art

Well I think that music is an art form for the mere reason that it is a skill that is not necessary for life, yet adds so much to life. As someone who can't play anything or create something breathtaking I'm certainly envious of those who have such skills.

Schopenhauer thought music was a form of art too, but he agreed with your view that it is higher as for Schopenhauer music is the highest form of art. Schopenhauer saw music as a direct expression of the Will (or lifeforce/desire), and as such he saw it as very similar to Plato's Forms. In a world of appearances music is one of the few things that is an exact copy of itself as it truly is. I haven't read any of what he wrote about music but it's held in very high regard by many people. The very start of the article in the link below probably gives a much better summary of his views (which influenced Wagner and a young Nietzsche).

Rod Paton - Structures of Trust (http://www.musicpsyche.org/Journal/mp1-Paton.html)


"Suitable music played to any scene, action, event or surrounding seems to disclose to us its most secret meaning, and appears as the most accurate and distinct commentary on it" - Schopenhauer

"Music is the answer to the mystery of life. The most profound of all the arts, it expresses the deepest thoughts of life" - Schopenhauer

[cubist]

music is definately the highest level of art, i listen to music it makes my hair stick on end its so much more spirititual than picture art. i can relate to music soo much easier