Tony Blair is our messiah

[nobody_cares]

:blink: Ok thats not exactly true but if you look at what hes achieved as prime minister, its pretty amazing. Im just fed up of people criticising Blair. He's the best prime minister we've had probably since Gladstone. New labour has it's problems but it's a dam sight better then the Authritarians Tories and the wooly, wet Lib Dems so stop attacking him or we could get another Maggie Thatcher (micheal :angry: howard) in power!

[Wenty]

How about Attlee? Established the NHS.

[Pedro Alonso Lopez]

Wrong forum methinks.

[toastedmonkey]

yes lets all praise a man who continues torie policiy whilst pretending to be a labour, leftwing man!

[IPkurd]

i use to be cool with him when he came in at 1997 elections, but nowadays hes like that ***** maggy

[Stupid Cappie Bears]

I do agree that Mr. Blair is better than the other parties for instance he has stabalised the economy but still he has made several mistakes. And at the moment he just appears to be following that fool Bush, trying to make the alliance between the two countries stronger without thinking about the consequences internationally.

[Invader Zim]

Tony Blair is only loved by two groups of people, US republicans and the naive. Since the beginning of his reign of spin, he has transferred more power from Parliament to government than any other prime i can think of. Thus effectively creating a dictatorship, this labour government is renound for its lies and corruption and is rotten to the core. It insists on controlling as much of our lives as possible even to the extent of "how to wash our hands". All of his major projects from the introduction of the AS level examinations, to student tuition fee's, to stupid tents build in London, have been hugely unpopular, a waste of public money and complete failures. He has often gone against the wishes of the very electorate who placed him in power, most notably the Student tuition fee's debate in which the public showed massive opposition to and GM crops. Half of his party hate him because of his betrayals and lies in his own manifesto's. His government encourages political correctness and racial tension, this is demonstrated by growing BNP support in the North.

Basically he has taken nearly all public services and trashed them, the government is spending more on the railways now than when they were publicly owned. The Price of actually running government has gone up £7 billion since 1997.

His one true success, the Good Friday agreement, in Northern Ireland, has collapsed. As for the war in Iraq, despite many marches and near universal opposition went ahead and has placed Britain in a wars who's legality is more than questionable, and put Britain in the firing line for Terrorist attacks. In a poll taken last year he got voted worst Britain ever... which shows just how he is despised.

Taxes have gone through the roof and we the British public are battered by over 70 new stealth taxes. I have no problem with taxation as long as we see a notable increase in services. However the services has got steadily worse, we have had more train disasters in the past few years than we have had in the past 100 years.

The utter corruption of the house of Lords is an act of absolute disgrace, he has stripped the hereditary peers, a good move in my opinion, but replaced them with his own cronies! Effectively destroying the second house.

The recent BBC vs Government issue has seen the government destroy the administration of the BBC. The government now is on the verge of revoking the licence fee from the BBC and make it dependant of Taxes, which allows the government to exert direct control over the BBC, an institution famed for its independence and objective programming. This crisis was borne of a report over the death of Dr David kelly, who spoke out against government lies over the war, by reporting it to a BBC reporter. He was found dead on a path near to his home. A report was held into the situation which lead to his death. It conveniently cleared the government of all blame, and completely annihilated the BBC. Rather unsurprisingly the person who conducted the report was :shock horror: appointed by the government. The British people were not amused, the report was branded as a whitewash and over 70% of people believed the report to be a pack of lies. The government then decided to hold another report on the original report this time by one Lord Butler, Labour crony extraordinaire, wonder what the out come of that will be.

Now I could go on at length about other failings of this government, IE, bureaucracy in the police, the NHS, the Railways, the council taxes, botched constitutional reform, fuel strikes, fireman’s strikes, poorly equipped armed forces, etc. I could go on, and on, and on, and on, and on but I haven’t got the time, so I leave you with this very concise report on a very bad government.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Blair is a strong leader the UK, and his actions lend themselves well to U.S. interests.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 23 2004, 11:38 PM
Blair is a strong leader the UK, and his actions lend themselves well to U.S. interests.
and thats a good thing?

Why should we bend over for the US to make it easier for them to rape us?

Anyway, he's a liar, and censors the BBC, when its reposters prove he and his government lie.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by Enigma+Apr 23 2004, 11:42 PM--> (Enigma @ Apr 23 2004, 11:42 PM)
Capitalist [email protected] 23 2004, 11:38 PM
Blair is a strong leader the UK, and his actions lend themselves well to U.S. interests.
and thats a good thing?

Why should we bend over for the US to make it easier for them to rape us?

No blair is a fool, and I doubt he will survive the next election if he continues to systematically piss off everyone. Either that or no one will vote with the exception of a tiny minority. [/b]
Having the US on your side is a good thing. Look at the big pictre, Enigma. Don't be a fool and turn your back on the US as so many other nations have already, as they will all soon pay the price.

[IPkurd]

and what price is that then

[Invader Zim]

Having the US on your side is a good thing.

Well now London is a major terrorist target, on several occasions in the past few months we have had serious terrorist activity. For example huge (about a tonne I recal) amounts of explosive ingrediance, were found in the houses of known terrorists. A group of suspected terrorists arrested after a threat to old trafford (a large sports stadium, holding around 60,000 people) was uncovered.

As a regular commuter on the trains (the logical terrorist target), I disagree, i feal that our course of action in blindly following the US has and will cause many problems, personal saftey being a rather large concern.

as they will all soon pay the price.

So the people in the British empire said in late 1913 early 1914. Britain won (as i imagine the US will, in its crusade) but destroyed its empire. I dont think attaching your self to a sinking ship is a good idea. Empires do not last for ever, and the US like every other superpower will one day fall from grace.

[Professor Moneybags]

New labour has it's problems but it's a dam sight better then the Authritarians Tories

Tony Blair isn't autoritarian, of course.


or we could get another Maggie Thatcher (micheal :angry: howard) in power!

Same difference.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by Professor [email protected] 24 2004, 07:14 AM

New labour has it's problems but it's a dam sight better then the Authritarians Tories

Tony Blair isn't autoritarian, of course.


or we could get another Maggie Thatcher (micheal :angry: howard) in power!

Same difference.
Tony Blair isn't autoritarian, of course.

Err yeah he is,he has systematically demanded that his policies go through, dispite the vast majority of the public dispising the piece of legislation. A prime example would be the tuition fee's debate.

[Professor Moneybags]

I was being sarchastic.

[Medieval Torture]

Amazing how parties seem to slide to the right when in power eh?

Labour has become right-wing.

Tony Blair and his foolish friends deserved to be placed in jibbets and starved.

[toastedmonkey]

it hasnt becoem righwing, it was rightwing before it got in power, just people hadnt noticed and so presumed it was left

[DaCuBaN]

The fools of this country thought they'd stumbled upon a 'sensible' leftie :rolleyes:
Someone who was labour, but wasn&#39;t all about centralization and taxation. <_<


Blair is a strong leader the UK, and his actions lend themselves well to U.S. interests

We don&#39;t want a strong leader for one - we want debate&#33; I want to see the democratic process in action (as it&#39;s all we&#39;ve got). As for it being in the best interests of the US? well that&#39;s all fine and well, but he&#39;s not the Vice President - he&#39;s the Prime Minister and hence should be concerned more with the state of his own country first - and aligning yourself with the most despised (like it or lump it) empire on the planet is not going to help there.


as they will all soon pay the price.

So the people in the British empire said in late 1913 early 1914. Britain won (as i imagine the US will, in its crusade) but destroyed its empire. I dont think attaching your self to a sinking ship is a good idea. Empires do not last for ever, and the US like every other superpower will one day fall from grace.

Save me the effort of making the retort. I like to see yanquis threats in all honesty. A good solid reminder that democracy is in action when someone essentially threatens you with violence. You know you&#39;ve touched a nerve there ;)

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by Medieval [email protected] 24 2004, 08:00 PM
Amazing how parties seem to slide to the right when in power eh?

Labour has become right-wing.

Tony Blair and his foolish friends deserved to be placed in jibbets and starved.
Lets get the thumb screws out first...

[Postteen]

Blair is a dog.

Bush&#39;s dog.

[nakba]

Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 23 2004, 11:44 PM
and thats a good thing?

Why should we bend over for the US to make it easier for them to rape us?

No blair is a fool, and I doubt he will survive the next election if he continues to systematically piss off everyone. Either that or no one will vote with the exception of a tiny minority.
Having the US on your side is a good thing. Look at the big pictre, Enigma. Don&#39;t be a fool and turn your back on the US as so many other nations have already, as they will all soon pay the price. [/quote]
Well said..



at last an american admits that his country is nothing more than a imperialist state...


"You&#39;r either with us, or you&#39;r with the terrorists&#33;"


Yet you must understand, that like the celts and all other tribes that fought the roman empire, so will we, the free people&#39;s of this world fight the american empire, even if that means our destruction by your powerfull guns...


MEKBAR AMREEKA&#33;