Let's isolate the Right wing dummies in here.

[Kurai Tsuki]

I think that those who do not agree with the misguided people in this opposing views section should simply not respond to the comments they make in it. It is after all a response from us that they want when they make idiotic comments of the, “What’s so bad about America,” type. We should simply stop posting in this area and let the Right Wing idiots express their misconceptions amongst themselves, rather than give them the pleasure of knowing they provoked a response from the dissident community.

[RedAnarchist]

I concur with you, but isolating them instead of teaching them is not going to get rid of their capitalist tendancies.

[Professor Moneybags]

We should simply stop posting in this area and let the Right Wing idiots express their misconceptions amongst themselves,

Wouldn't it be easier (and more honest) to admit you haven't got a clue ?

[RedAnarchist]

Originally posted by Professor [email protected] 23 2004, 11:16 AM

Wouldn't it be easier (and more honest) to admit you haven't got a clue ?
Thats what they should be saying to Bush! :D :lol:

[Dirty Commie]

We respond to right wingers because they are allowed to argue their side of a debate.... I acknowledge, but do not support their views however, they have the right to have a debate with leftists with real responses and not have the thread turn into a flame war like they do on right wing boards.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2004, 08:01 AM
I concur with you, but isolating them instead of teaching them is not going to get rid of their capitalist tendancies.
"teaching" assumes you have legitimate knowledge to pass on

[Loknar]

rightr wing dummy here!

Heil McCarthy!

[Individual]

Are you kidding me?

I thrive on debate. As much as I disregard there ideologies, theories, and immature name calling. I eat it all up!

What fun would this board be without them? Debates would then resort to:

"What was Karl Marx' favorite color?"

"Blood red"

"No it's shiny red"

"No, your an idiot, it's flame red"

:wacko:

See what I am saying here? As much as I despise their immature name calling, and conservative logic. Who else are we going to argue with?

[Pedro Alonso Lopez]

Debating with right wingers in this enviroment will allow you to develop arguments for use in real life situations where it counts.

Second of all you should have no problems debating anybody if your convictions are strong enough.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by Capitalist Imperial+Apr 23 2004, 10:55 PM--> (Capitalist Imperial @ Apr 23 2004, 10:55 PM)
[email protected] 23 2004, 08:01 AM
I concur with you, but isolating them instead of teaching them is not going to get rid of their capitalist tendancies.
"teaching" assumes you have legitimate knowledge to pass on [/b]


i can teach you how to crash your computer by filling up main memory.

[El Che]

The cappies here are at a severe disadvantage. I almost feel sorry for them.

[Loknar]

dont worry che, my profound logic will put you in your place.

[DSCH]

Heil McCarthy!

[Professor Moneybags]

The cappies here are at a severe disadvantage.

In what way ?

[canikickit]

Loknar is my favourite right winger to laugh at.

[El Che]

Originally posted by Professor [email protected] 24 2004, 06:49 AM

The cappies here are at a severe disadvantage.

In what way ?
Numerical firstly but not just. I'm sure there are folks out there that can put up a better ideological defense of Capitalism than what you see here. In the real world there is no shortage of competent Capitalist guard dogs ready to take up the standard of private capital.

[Dirty Commie]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2004, 04:19 AM
Loknar is my favourite right winger to laugh at.
Lately his slogans are getting repetitive, I think that he ran out of qoutes from "capitalism for dummies"

[Misodoctakleidist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2004, 11:04 PM
Are you kidding me?

I thrive on debate. As much as I disregard there ideologies, theories, and immature name calling. I eat it all up!

What fun would this board be without them? Debates would then resort to:

"What was Karl Marx' favorite color?"

"Blood red"

"No it's shiny red"

"No, your an idiot, it's flame red"

:wacko:

See what I am saying here? As much as I despise their immature name calling, and conservative logic. Who else are we going to argue with?
Pffffffffffft, it's sooo blood red!

[redfront]

As some frensh man once said: "Though i despice what you're saying, i will fight to the death for your right to say it."

[Misodoctakleidist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2004, 03:08 PM
As some frensh man once said: "Though i despice what you're saying, i will fight to the death for your right to say it."
What was so fresh about this man and why was he de-spicing people's sentences?

Wasn't the quote you were meant to post written by a woman, anyway?

[synthesis]

Originally posted by Misodoctakleidist+Apr 24 2004, 08:13 AM--> (Misodoctakleidist @ Apr 24 2004, 08:13 AM)
[email protected] 24 2004, 03:08 PM
As some frensh man once said: "Though i despice what you're saying, i will fight to the death for your right to say it."
What was so fresh about this man and why was he de-spicing people's sentences?

Wasn't the quote you were meant to post written by a woman, anyway? [/b]
No, it was Voltaire.

[God of Imperia]

And I'm sure you know he meant French-men and not fresh. Voltaire, now he was a genuis. tT bad he believed that humans are good by nature: if they did something wrong you could explain to them that what they did was wrong and they wouldn't do it again ... I believe that's kinda naïve, but I'm sry, I'm getting off topic

[Misodoctakleidist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2004, 04:00 PM
No, it was Voltaire.
Actually the quote was falsely attributed to Voltaire, it was written by his biographer who used it to describe his attitude.

[synthesis]

Originally posted by Misodoctakleidist+Apr 24 2004, 09:22 AM--> (Misodoctakleidist @ Apr 24 2004, 09:22 AM)
[email protected] 24 2004, 04:00 PM
No, it was Voltaire.
Actually the quote was falsely attributed to Voltaire, it was written by his biographer who used it to describe his attitude. [/b]
Where did you hear this?

[Raisa]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2004, 11:04 PM
Are you kidding me?

I thrive on debate. As much as I disregard there ideologies, theories, and immature name calling. I eat it all up!

What fun would this board be without them? Debates would then resort to:

"What was Karl Marx' favorite color?"

"Blood red"

"No it's shiny red"

"No, your an idiot, it's flame red"

:wacko:

See what I am saying here? As much as I despise their immature name calling, and conservative logic. Who else are we going to argue with?
I dont come here to have "fun" or be entertained. But I do enjoy talknig to people here.This is not a circus, this is a place where people who share the value of dignity for the worlds workers and the greatness of the human race come toghether and descuss different ideas. We do not debate Karl Marx's favorite color.






.which...by the way....is purple.

[Loknar]

Originally posted by Dirty [email protected] 24 2004, 02:03 PM

Lately his slogans are getting repetitive, I think that he ran out of qoutes from "capitalism for dummies"
what slogans?

[DSCH]

Originally posted by Loknar+Apr 25 2004, 05:09 AM--> (Loknar @ Apr 25 2004, 05:09 AM)
Dirty [email protected] 24 2004, 02:03 PM

Lately his slogans are getting repetitive, I think that he ran out of qoutes from "capitalism for dummies"
what slogans? [/b]
I think they mean this my fellow capitalist imperialist pig,

Heil McCarthy!

http://www.politics1.com/pix/wi-2.jpg

Zionist Christian capitalist imperialism from now until the Second Coming and Apocalypse.

Repent. For the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.

There is no God but the Lord YHWH and Jesus Christ is His messenger.

May God bless the United Sates and Israel.

Mecca delenda est! Madina delenda est! Fallujah delenda est!

[God of Imperia]

You're right about ignoring comments like this, but the reason why right wing people are allowed here is because we can debate with them. They can give their view and we can give ours, otherwise things would be a bit dull ...

[Dan_Canadian]

Thats true, the whole point of debating is that there has to be someone to debate with! I support neither side but..uhh, really mr. DSCH, you're making it very easy for the commies. :lol:

You're a joke DSCH

Zionist Christian capitalist imperialism from now until the Second Coming and Apocalypse.

Say something reasonable and debatable so we can have some healthy discussions rather than this inane dribble that sounds like some KKK bastard said while foaming at the mouth.

As I said, I don't support either side really, but if this is all you got, I may have to start rooting for the commies :lol:

ohhh what fun <_<

[MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr]

Originally posted by DSCH+Apr 25 2004, 01:34 AM--> (DSCH &#064; Apr 25 2004, 01:34 AM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2004, 05:09 AM

Dirty [email protected] 24 2004, 02:03 PM

Lately his slogans are getting repetitive, I think that he ran out of qoutes from "capitalism for dummies"
what slogans?
I think they mean this my fellow capitalist imperialist pig,

Heil McCarthy&#33;

http://www.politics1.com/pix/wi-2.jpg

Zionist Christian capitalist imperialism from now until the Second Coming and Apocalypse.

Repent. For the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.

There is no God but the Lord YHWH and Jesus Christ is His messenger.

May God bless the United Sates and Israel.

Mecca delenda est&#33; Madina delenda est&#33; Fallujah delenda est&#33; [/b]

http://www.imageshack.us/img2/6315/dancing.gif

Must.....re...resist...the urrrrrgggee.....AHHHH&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; Resistance is futile&#33; Must give in&#33;

http://imageshack.us/files/barney.gif

Fucking fundamentalist assponies will be here from now until communist revolution.

Repent, for you are a fucking idiot.

There is no god but the voice in your head you sckitzophenic freak.

My God&#39;s prophet tell you to sit on his lap and bounce for Christ.

I&#39;m not even going to bother figuring out what the fuck that last line means, but I&#39;m sure its just as intelligent as the rest of your rantings...

You disgust me.

http://www.imageshack.us/files1/godbeatup.gif

[Touchstone]

Voltarie was a woman. That quote was in one of her books. I forget which one. Voltarie was a pysdonynm for her name.

[BuyOurEverything]

Heil McCarthy&#33;

Zionist Christian capitalist imperialism from now until the Second Coming and Apocalypse.

Repent. For the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.

There is no God but the Lord YHWH and Jesus Christ is His messenger.

May God bless the United Sates and Israel.

Mecca delenda est&#33; Madina delenda est&#33; Fallujah delenda est&#33;

Aww, you&#39;re so cute when you feel threatened...

Anyways, I like debating with capitalists here. Whenever I try to debate with them on capitalist forums, I get so outnumbered debate is immpossible. I&#39;ll post and then come back the next day and there&#39;s like 120 new posts. I can&#39;t address them all.

Anyways, Locknar, you seem like a fairly reasonable guy, why do you support McCarthy? I suspect it&#39;s just to get a reaction here.

[Touchstone]

Debating with the capatilists is fun. Without them we would be reduced to bickering.
I&#39;ve tried that also.

[Invictus]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2004, 02:33 AM
Voltarie was a woman. That quote was in one of her books. I forget which one. Voltarie was a pysdonynm for her name.
Are you that stupid?

http://www.historywiz.com/images/enlightenment/voltaire.jpg

[synthesis]

Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2004, 07:33 PM
Voltarie was a woman. That quote was in one of her books. I forget which one. Voltarie was a pysdonynm for her name.
Uh, I&#39;m not so sure about that one, dude. Voltaire was a pseudonym, that much is true. Example biographies, though, such as here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltaire) and here (http://www.online-literature.com/voltaire/) seem to be awfully fond of the male pronoun.

[DSCH]

Voltaire was a Western capitalist pig who believed in God. A Deist.

Real communists (Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, John Kerry, etc.) reject freedom of speech.

[Professor Moneybags]

Voltarie was a woman. That quote was in one of her books. I forget which one. Voltarie was a pysdonynm for her name.

Yeah, and Shakespeare was really an arab named Shaq Zabir.

[Loknar]

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2004, 03:15 AM

Anyways, Locknar, you seem like a fairly reasonable guy, why do you support McCarthy? I suspect it&#39;s just to get a reaction here.
well I am glad a commie here can say this about me, thanks.



anyway, it&#39;s not that I supprt him, I understand him and his reasoning for wanting HUAC around. the soviets and americans at the time were mortal enemies, plus capitalism woulnt have been tolerated in the SU, so naturally it wouldnt be tolerated in the US because of guys like MaCarthy. this doesnt mean I advocate the man, I just understand him and I also think that his kinds of actions are not unusual.


but I just use the avatar for kicks.

[Misodoctakleidist]

Dyermaker,

sorry, i can&#39;t remember where i read it but it&#39;s fairly common knowledge that the quote was falsely attributed to Voltaire, you could probably find something pretty quickly in a google search.

[GUTB]

A few years ago, someone posted a what-if scenario in the soc.history.what-if usenet group revolving around...Trotsky in US acedemia following his exile from the Stalinist USSR. A genial, scholarly discussion followed about which school Trot was most likely to fit into.

But then a thought: Trotsky would probably live through the McCarthy era. Trot would have -- not might have, not probably have, he would have spanked down McCarthy like the fascist reactionary peice of filth that he was.

[MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr]

Ah yes, Trotsky, being the superhuman revolutionary he was, would spank down all the bad mans and usher in a new age of freedom and socialism.

[Touchstone]

Obviously, I read something wrong. Sorry. Voltarie was a man I looked it up. Damn Arkansas education. Sorry people. No more flaming please.

[STI]

Originally posted by Invictus+Apr 26 2004, 04:46 AM--> (Invictus @ Apr 26 2004, 04:46 AM)
[email protected] 26 2004, 02:33 AM
Voltarie was a woman. That quote was in one of her books. I forget which one. Voltarie was a pysdonynm for her name.
Are you that stupid?

http://www.historywiz.com/images/enlightenment/voltaire.jpg [/b]
Of course that&#39;s a girl. Do you see the huge breasts on her?


Real communists (Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, John Kerry, etc.) reject freedom of speech

This is barely worth a response, but hey, I&#39;ve got nothing better to do. For reasons explained in "Why Support Communism", we can safely say that Mao, Stalin, Lenin, and Pol Pot weren&#39;t really communist. The Republican habit of calling Clinton, Gore, Kerry, and co. communists shows a total lack of knowledge of either communism or the beliefs and actions of such individuals. Name 5 "communist" things Kerry does. I dare you.

[DSCH]

Originally posted by socialist_tiger+Apr 27 2004, 08:47 PM--> (socialist_tiger &#064; Apr 27 2004, 08:47 PM)
[email protected] 26 2004, 04:46 AM
Name 5 "communist" things Kerry does. I dare you. [/b]
1. Kerry hates the United States more than any country in the world. He instinctively sides with America&#39;s enemies no matter what e.g. the Vietcong Communists and the Killing Fields are "nothing but love."

2. Kerry thinks that there should be forced equality. E.g. racist affirmative action descrimination against whites.

3. Kerry does not believe in God and therefore thinks it&#39;s acceptible to murder babies by poking scissors into the back of their skulls and sucking their brains out.

4. Kerry believes in fascist Communist gun control laws which leads to higher gun crime and higher murder rates...e.g. Russia as an example.

5. Kerry believes that laws should only apply to the proletariat and bourgeoisie but not to the Bolshevik political elites like himself.

[Invader Zim]

Originally posted by DSCH+Apr 27 2004, 09:32 PM--> (DSCH @ Apr 27 2004, 09:32 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2004, 08:47 PM

[email protected] 26 2004, 04:46 AM
Name 5 "communist" things Kerry does. I dare you.
1. Kerry hates the United States more than any country in the world. He instinctively sides with America&#39;s enemies no matter what e.g. the Vietcong Communists and the Killing Fields are "nothing but love."

2. Kerry thinks that there should be forced equality. E.g. racist affirmative action descrimination against whites.

3. Kerry does not believe in God and therefore thinks it&#39;s acceptible to murder babies by poking scissors into the back of their skulls and sucking their brains out.

4. Kerry believes in fascist Communist gun control laws which leads to higher gun crime and higher murder rates...e.g. Russia as an example.

5. Kerry believes that laws should only apply to the proletariat and bourgeoisie but not to the Bolshevik political elites like himself. [/b]
LOL its hbard to tell if you are actually that stupid and being serious or just joking. I hope for the latter I really do... If its the former then the actual some of human knoledge has been dented by this comment, and until this moment I though that an impossible feat, for a single person to say something that asinine.

[DaCuBaN]

Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2004, 09:32 PM
1. Kerry hates the United States more than any country in the world. He instinctively sides with America&#39;s enemies no matter what e.g. the Vietcong Communists and the Killing Fields are "nothing but love."

2. Kerry thinks that there should be forced equality. E.g. racist affirmative action descrimination against whites.

3. Kerry does not believe in God and therefore thinks it&#39;s acceptible to murder babies by poking scissors into the back of their skulls and sucking their brains out.

4. Kerry believes in fascist Communist gun control laws which leads to higher gun crime and higher murder rates...e.g. Russia as an example.

5. Kerry believes that laws should only apply to the proletariat and bourgeoisie but not to the Bolshevik political elites like himself.
1. So he&#39;s at least got one thing right, and is a reasonable man to an extent and although still advocates the apartheid in Israel, the occupation in Iraq and the embargo on Cuba at least realises he&#39;s sided with &#39;the devil&#39;

2. Yes... he believes he should discriminate against himself... interesting
How does this differ from the opposite pole of the (practically) white-power idiot you&#39;ve got running the show now?

3. My mother believes in God, and thinks abortion is perfectly acceptable. She&#39;s a CATHOLIC and yet can understand that in some circumstances it&#39;s better for EVERYONE that a child is not born. I&#39;ve always felt this argument is a no-brainer - especially when put forward by men who are half the problem :rolleyes:

4. And switzerland counts for nothing? or the UK? all guns are now banned in the UK - you just cannot buy them - Co2 air pistols are even outlawed and you think gun crime is better in the US than the UK? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA&#33; :D :lol: :P

5. And like every other capitalist politicain he considers himself above the law. I wonder how many other american presidents consider they are above the law...
I think from 1961 on you can account that every single US president was a piece of shit. Hell you&#39;re most revered one JFK was proved to be a womanising asshole, Nixon was impeached, need I go on?

[STI]

Originally posted by DSCH+Apr 27 2004, 09:32 PM--> (DSCH @ Apr 27 2004, 09:32 PM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2004, 08:47 PM

[email protected] 26 2004, 04:46 AM
Name 5 "communist" things Kerry does. I dare you.
1. Kerry hates the United States more than any country in the world. He instinctively sides with America&#39;s enemies no matter what e.g. the Vietcong Communists and the Killing Fields are "nothing but love."

2. Kerry thinks that there should be forced equality. E.g. racist affirmative action descrimination against whites.

3. Kerry does not believe in God and therefore thinks it&#39;s acceptible to murder babies by poking scissors into the back of their skulls and sucking their brains out.

4. Kerry believes in fascist Communist gun control laws which leads to higher gun crime and higher murder rates...e.g. Russia as an example.

5. Kerry believes that laws should only apply to the proletariat and bourgeoisie but not to the Bolshevik political elites like himself. [/b]
With all of these you&#39;re saying:

Communsists believe X
Kerry believes X
Therefore, Kerry is a communist.

This is an invalid syllogism, though, as the middle term is left undistributed. The question I was asking you was to find examples of the following nature:

All people who believe X are communists
Kerry believes X
Therefore, Kerry is a communist.

OMG&#33; A LEFTIST USED.... LOGIC&#33; :rolleyes:

[Louis Pio]

Kerry hates the United States more than any country in the world.

Ok already there we could see your post was a joke. I mean no sane person would have these hallucinations...

[Touchstone]

Teis, i&#39;m with you on this one. DSCH WTF man? First, if he hated our country, he wouldn&#39;t be in it. Second HE&#39;S RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. Sorry. But man, how can abortion be communist? Just a thought. Unless you are trying to diss abortion. What happens when a 13 year old girl gets raped in some ally? Are you gonna make her have the kid?

[Misodoctakleidist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2004, 09:32 PM
1. Kerry hates the United States more than any country in the world. He instinctively sides with America&#39;s enemies no matter what e.g. the Vietcong Communists and the Killing Fields are "nothing but love."

2. Kerry thinks that there should be forced equality. E.g. racist affirmative action descrimination against whites.

3. Kerry does not believe in God and therefore thinks it&#39;s acceptible to murder babies by poking scissors into the back of their skulls and sucking their brains out.

4. Kerry believes in fascist Communist gun control laws which leads to higher gun crime and higher murder rates...e.g. Russia as an example.

5. Kerry believes that laws should only apply to the proletariat and bourgeoisie but not to the Bolshevik political elites like himself.
This post is so stupid i just had to reply.

1.
a) How exactly does Kerry hate the US? i think it&#39;s quite the opposite infact.
b) Communists don&#39;t hate the US, they hate capitalism, Kerry doesn&#39;t hate capitalism.
c) So kerry sided with the vietcong by fighting against them, i see.
d) I hate fascists and so, i presume, do you, does that mean you&#39;re a communist?

2.
a) Since when is descrimination eqaulity?
b) When has Kerry proposed descrimination against whites?
c) Since when have communists proposed descrimination agaisnt whites?
d) Since when is communism forced?

3.
a) A foetus is not a baby.
b) Abortion isn&#39;t muder becuase becuase a foetus is not a human being.
c) Communists don&#39;t support murder
d) Kerry doesn&#39;t support murder
e) The reason he advocates abortion isn&#39;t because he doesn&#39;t believe in god, something that doesn&#39;t exist can&#39;t effect someones opinion.

4.
a) &#39;fascist communist&#39; is a contradiction.
b) communists don&#39;t believe in gun control
c) fascists don&#39;t believe in gun control
d) gun control doesn&#39;t lead to higher gun crime e.g. Britain as an example
e) gun control leads to lower murder rates e.g. Britain as an example

5.
a) The proletariat and the bougoirsie is EVERYONE.
b) Communists don&#39;t believe laws should apply to ANYONE.
c) Not all communists are bolsheviks
d) Kerry is not a bolshevik
e) Kerry doesn&#39;t believe he is above the law, to the best of my knowledge.
f) bolsheviks are members of the bolshevik party not the political elite.
g) Kerry is not part of any &#39;elite,&#39; however Bush is.