Pornography of children by the US yet again

[pandora]

Unsure if anyone heard the news today about a UN decree against the US tourism industry as targetting the subjecation of children for profit in the pornography and prostitution services sector.
Evidence is being compounded regarding the targeting of children both in the US and specifically abroad as an incentive for the tourism industry.
Sources say US tourism companies have been targeting children as sexual pleasure tools for years.
Sorry to get back on this point, but in South East Asia and other areas this is a huge issue, enslaving millions of girls, and I do mean girls and woman.
This seems to have a lot to do with the interests of US corporations and social justice.
What do others think about this announcement?

[dark fairy]

I don't think it is right to "get off" on little kids but i do believe that "different strokes for different folks"

but i DO believe that a countries percentage of money does come from prostitution and a way larger percentege comes from pornography

[RedAnarchist]

Children should never be anywhere near pornography or prostitution. Of course, i am not surprised that America exploits women and girls like this as the American government and its capitalist privatised industries are always more interested in money rather than human beings and the freedom of humanity.

[cubist]

ok thats pretty sick. the sadest thing is that it was the americans who started last years campaign on global peadophiles. hypocracy at its worst damn it the children are our future not our leisure

[Pedro Alonso Lopez]

I think this issue is larger than is probably allowed to be known. I suspect among a lot of powerful men that they are involved in this kind of activity, a weakness on their part that ruins lives.

It is their power coming from the fact that they are so rich they can get away with it that allows this problem to continue.

There are questions of morality at stake here but thats for another thread maybe.

[SittingBull47]

ah that's true. How many pedophiles are we allowing to run the country?
This is disheartening news. People are *****ing about gays marrying each other and how it is ruining america because of it's immorality, after that the same officials who are saying this go home and get their jollies from kiddie porn.

[cubist]

there precious "morality" gay marriage is the result of failure to educate they're supposed morality, its not a product of society but a consequence of its failures,

i am not against gay marriage but if people in america hate it that much they should have made a greater effort to premote how worng they believe it is

[BuyOurEverything]

Children should never be anywhere near pornography or prostitution.

People really need to get off their moral high horse about children and sex. Exploitation and rape is what we should be combatting, not consentually produced child pronography.

[Pedro Alonso Lopez]

I dont believe there is such a thing a consensual child porn, I may be missing a joke here or something.

[BuyOurEverything]

No joke. Why do you not think that a child can consent? And why should sex or posing naked be treated differently from any other action?

[Pedro Alonso Lopez]

Well first of all a child say under ten does not have the rational faculties to consent to something of a sexual nature.

A child does not understand when it is being exploited sexually.

It should be treated differently because it can have disturbing effects psychologically on the childs development.

All pretty obvious stuff.

[BuyOurEverything]

I think most of the negative psychological effects are from either non-consentual sex (unfortunately, for minors, many people fail to distinguish between consentual and non-consentual sex, something I find deeply disturbing) or society telling the kids that it is wrong.

[Pedro Alonso Lopez]

A child cannot consent to something they do not fuly understand. They are not developed psychological or more important pyhsically for sexual encounters.

Throw all the morality aside this still holds, bring it in and you must question whether a child who consents to sex is ready for what they embark upon.

Do you believe a six year old girl can have consentual sex with a 41 year old man?

[BuyOurEverything]

I believe that generally a child as young as six is probably not physically developed enough to safely have sex, however this is not always true. It doesn't really matter if they can fully understand it, as long as they can stop any time they want. Is it wrong to take a child to an amusement park for their first time because they cannot fully understand what it is?

[Pedro Alonso Lopez]

So a 41 year old mans penis will not internally damage the vagina of a six year old girl?

Dosent sound safe or healthy to me.

[BuyOurEverything]

I believe that generally a child as young as six is probably not physically developed enough to safely have sex

[Pedro Alonso Lopez]

however this is not always true

[BuyOurEverything]

Yes, it's not always true. Some six year olds are developed enough. Probably not most, but some. I'm not really referring to six year olds anyways, I'm referring more to 11 y/os and up.

[Pedro Alonso Lopez]

Ok then not children but teens as such, that changes the nature of the debate dont you think?

Do you think there is an element of exploitation involved with underage sex between minors and adults.

[Kurai Tsuki]

Could you be more specific about how U.S. companies are planning to exploit children, and how the government is planning to use that to promote tourism?

[BuyOurEverything]

Ok then not children but teens as such, that changes the nature of the debate dont you think?

I suppose, but really what I'm saying is that it's a physical issue, not an ethical one. If someone is physically able to have sex safely, it's not ethically wrong. Most people don't consider 10 and 11 year olds teens though.


Do you think there is an element of exploitation involved with underage sex between minors and adults.

There is always, or usually anyways, going to be an unequal power relationship between two people. It's not only impractical, but unethical to legislate who can and cannot have sex based on assumptions of power and influence. The relationship between an adult and child is not neccessarily any different than that between an employer and employee, or a general and a leutenant.

[Pedro Alonso Lopez]

There is a difference in that an employee or leutenant has developed all their rational faculties and 'realises' they are are in position of submission, the same occurs with a weaker partner in a reletaionship.

It is most certainly an ethical issue, I would consider it a touchy one though that most people shy away from or simply apply reactionary morality.


If someone is physically able to have sex safely, it's not ethically wrong

You ignore the pyshcological issues with this statement.