What does communism mean to u?

[Latin American Socialist]

What does :hammer: mean to you? Why did u convert to communism?

[robob8706]

Communism to me, means a system in which everyone has equal chance in life. I chose communim over capitalism because i would rather want a society in which a lower class citizen wont have to struggle to maintain its survival. There is room for improvement, we are not stuck in one social place, if only everyone were meliorists, this world would be a whole lot better for everyone. I believe in communism because i think that the world was built off of the backs of the proletariat, and it's about time they got the chance to build the world it into something better than what it is today.

[RedAnarchist]

Communism to me is the most feasible idealogy to bring equality, true freedom and global peace to humanity.

It is not corrupt and greedy like Capitalism.
It is not genocidal and rascist like Nazism.
It is not hierarchical and feudal like Monarchism.

It is the idealogy that will eventually take over from all others.

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by El [email protected] 21 2004, 05:42 AM
What does :hammer: mean to you? Why did u convert to communism?
I didn't call myself a communist for many years when I first got involved in revolutionary politics. I don't think I really understood what it was. I started top read about what Marx wrote about and the more I read, the more it made sense.

Communism is not just an idealistic fantasy, it is a scientifc theory based on an objective analysis of society. It does not conclude that communism as a statless, classless society should be achieved because it is "morally rightous" but because it is a logical step from the illogicalness of capitalism.

Yes it will end exploitation, oppression and forms of domination, but it will also bring history to a conclusion. It will finally open peoples eyes to their world and to their lives. And people will be able to live, rather than survive.

You can not dispute communism by using logical arguments. It is a science and an ideal, and I think that combined it is an objective force which can not be disputed with.

[cubist]

Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2004, 08:15 AM
Communism to me is the most feasible idealogy to bring equality, true freedom and global peace to humanity.

It is not corrupt and greedy like Capitalism.
It is not genocidal and rascist like Nazism.
It is not hierarchical and feudal like Monarchism.

It is the idealogy that will eventually take over from all others.
nice xphile couldn't put it better, so i will steal yours

[SittingBull47]

indeed, but genocide, rascism, and hierarchy can and unfortunately do exist in a capitalist society; especially today.

[Latin American Socialist]

Communism is a life with equallity. Where the rich are as much important then the poor. Infact, The world should convert to communsim. No Rich, No Poor only equallity.

[Al Creed]

Communism is Human society returning to full-circle.

In the early days of Homo Sapien Sapien's history on this planet (Right up until First Contact between the Europeans and the First Nations of the Westen Hemisphere and Africa), we were egalitarian. We worked together, allbeit in small bands, to provide a comfortable existence for every member of the group. There were no leaders, no followers, just people. Nothing was owned, it was shared. Although life was always at a constant risk (due to primitive technology and incredibly large land and sea animals), Human-on-Human misrey, as far as I know, was almost non-existent.. Thus. the Hunter-Gatherer Society was created.

It was only until we started settling down, staking out land as "our own" for agricultural use, that things began to foul. Certain people would have better and more land than the others, thus better access to food and water, while others did not. Soon, a powerful family would assume power over a community, based on their "wealth," our first Monarchies. The barter system, once used by the Hunter-Gatherers, was assumed as a complicated system to keep track of, so currency was invented. Currency became important, because with more currency, you can buy more and more stuff. The first writing was not any great work of literature, but Inventory and book-keeping. Thus, City-States were created.

These small communities expanded, and created emmense kindgoms and empires. Babylon. Nubia. Persia. Egypt. Macedonia. Rome. All feuled by economic and territorial greed. However, these empires collapsed, the greatest and most shocking being Rome, for there was no new empire to immediately pick up the pieces, creating the "Dark ages."

The Dark Ages saw the brief return of City-States, with Feudalism. However, Some Lords became more powerful than others, and gained great control over large quantities of land, and proclaimed themselves Kings, direct descendants of God. These Kings would make and break allainces with other Kings, and rape their lands of all the goods and services and wealth they craved, and put in place Princes Barons and Dukes and Earls and Knights to see to the direct rule of those living in an area. Thus, the Class System was created.

The Chain of Being was created, to re-inforce this class system, to tell the people that they are to stay in their spot, or chaos will engulf the land. Forced worship of dieties ensured loayalty, because, the King was a direct descendant of the worshipped diety, and to question that king would be questioning an anoited representitive on Earth, thus casting one's lot with the Underworld and a life of torment and torture and horror. They had to accept the pain and the toil and the miser of their current situation, because "God wills it." Thus, Political Apathy was created.

Then, once the "Old World" was carved up, and territories were all set in place, these Kings expanded. They went out, and conquored the Far East, economically. They conquored Africa. They waged war on the Ottoman Empire. Then, News of a "New World" broke out, full of rich resources such as Fish and timber and fur and foodstuffs and ariable land. The only thing that stood in their way was "Savages." "Savages," or, "Peoples who knew nothing of greed, as we know it. Peoples who did not live the way the "Old World" did. So, explorers were sent to chart these lands, and armies were sent to conquor these lands, and missionaries went to conquor the people. Thus, Imperialism was re-created.

Around the 1600 and 1700's, this "devine rule" of the Kings was questioned by "the common people." Which people? Not the labourers, not the farmers, but the business owners and propietors, the Bourgoisese, who became hungry for power. The Revolution in the 13 Colonies in Particular, sought the removal of an old Heirarchy, and to replace it with a new one, one that included them. Eventually, the Revolution was successful, in that those who craved power, got it. Yet, nothing changed. Power still rested with the wealthy, and the wealth still rested with the powerful. In the United States, with wealthy land owners such as George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, ended the old ways of feudalism for good, and established a new order based on monitary wealth and economic freedom. Along withe the "new Constitutional Monarchy" of Britian, and "Peoples empire" of France, trade began to flourish. No longer did the possession of land ensure power, the wealth one could gain from their land created power. The rich formed and ran for political office. Rules were implemented to keep the lower classes from politics, formed by the rich. Thus, Capitalism was created.

The 1800 and 1900's saw a new-found influence by the working class. The Industrial Revolution saw the creation of worker lobbyists, those who saught for equality and prosperity and rewarding of the workers. People used the printing press, to spread ideas of economic and social equality to a newly-literate people. Karl Marx created the second-most quoted Source in the history of the world, The Communist Manifesto. People like Vladimir Lenin, like Che Guevara, like Ho Chi Minh, had their eyes opened as to what was wrong with the world, and saught to rectify these problems through violent revolution and equally agressive writing against the Burgoisese order, and to establish their own, one of the people and for the people. One that stopped the exploitation of the masses, and absorbed the four layers of industry for the state, and not for the businessperson. One that would focus on society, and not economy. Some, like Vladimir Lenin and Che Guevara, took power at the barrel of a gun. Others, like Tommy Douglas (the leader of the first Left-wing party ever elected or hold power in North America, Canada's NDP, and the man behind Medicare in Canada) were elected. They created an order wehere, although certain people still controlled the most ower, they attempted to rule on behalf of the people, not rule the people. Thus, Socialism was created.

From these people, a generation of equality-fighters spawned. Us. Like them, we use the most popular and far-reaching medium of the day, to spread our message around the world. There is much to be done, still.

Once power is wrestled from the bourgoisese completely, and entrusted in the hands of those who put not the state, but the people, first, and once society (as it may take a long while before it happens) society is strong enough and conditioned enough to stand on its own, as a group, will the dreams of Marx be fulfilled. Where everything is owned collectively, where there is no longer property, no heirarchy, where the people live together as equals. Thus, the World returns, full-circle.

[Essential Insignificance]

Mass, solidarity and commonality.

[El Che]

Originally posted by El [email protected] 21 2004, 03:42 AM
What does :hammer: mean to you?
Liberation.

[insurgency03]

I was at one point somewhat of a moderate conservative about two years ago, and i despised liberals. But slowly over time I began to see the truth about the world and how our government, and many others exploit the masses and keep them occupied as to not see the truth. The thing that convinced me the most was one day I was driving in my hometown, Brownsville Texas (a small town on the Mexican Border) and i noticed the huge extremes of rich and poor, the town was a great example( at least to me) on how capitalism failed miserubly, so I started to look for other ways of life, and Communism seemded very appealing to me, even though i'm more of a socialist.