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ComradeRed
15th April 2004, 23:37
Can someone please explain what exactly "libertarian communism" is?

The Feral Underclass
16th April 2004, 05:35
People who dont like to use the word anarchist...

I dont think there is such a vast difference. They are communists who reject the use of the state..

Libertarian Communism (http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Embassy/8970/)

Manifesto of Libertarian Communism (http://flag.blackened.net/daver/anarchism/mlc/)

Libertarian Communism - Isaac Puente (http://flag.blackened.net/liberty/libcom.html)

Maomorethanever726
17th April 2004, 18:34
Libetairan Communist and Marxist have the same goal: a classless, stateless society, but Libertarian Communist focus more on this end result and often belive in a communal system of society and many reject a transitional "dictatorship of the proletariate" as unwise since leaders will rise up to take advantage of the revolution for their own lust for power and these leaders will betray the revolution.

Dawood
20th April 2004, 22:39
Originally posted by The Anarchist [email protected] 16 2004, 06:35 AM
People who dont like to use the word anarchist...
Hehe, almost to be honest... :lol:

But it's not quite that simple. :)
Libertarian communists, such as myself, prefer a non-dogmatic form of communism. Negri is pretty big among libertarian vommies, but personally I don't like him. Autonomous, ultraleft and leftist communists are other name for libertarian communists.

And libertarian communist ARE marxists, atleast the absolute majority.
Some thinkers and groups are are Paul Mattick, Bordiga, Socialisme au barbarie, the operiaists, Johnshon-Forester Fraction and many more.

Some libertarian communist revolutions are Hungary 56, against the Soviet Union, and France 68, where libertarian communists where an big factor. The zapatistas have many libertarian communist tendencies.

However most libertarian communist don't see an ideological movement as an factor in the revolution. The basic thing is that the workers should organise themselves, independent of unions and parties.

Invader Zim
20th April 2004, 22:47
Originally posted by The Anarchist [email protected] 16 2004, 05:35 AM
People who dont like to use the word anarchist...

I dont think there is such a vast difference. They are communists who reject the use of the state..

Libertarian Communism (http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Embassy/8970/)

Manifesto of Libertarian Communism (http://flag.blackened.net/daver/anarchism/mlc/)

Libertarian Communism - Isaac Puente (http://flag.blackened.net/liberty/libcom.html)
That was your old screen name right?

Morpheus
21st April 2004, 03:50
Libertarian Communism is another name for anarchist-communism. It was invented in the late 19th century because anarchism was outlawed in some countries and because capitalist propaganda was giving anarchist a bad name. Both of the pamphlets TAT links to are by anarchists. The anarchists in the Spanish Revolution described their ultimate goal as libertarian communism.

Later, some confused marxists who had effectively abandonded marxism for anarchism (but wouldn't admit it) started using the name for themselves. They did this instead of calling themselves anarchists because they didn't like the term "anarchist" due to marxist prejudices and had been idolizing Marx for so long that they didn't feel comfortable stopping.