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Knigel Humdrum
1st February 2002, 08:57
http://clients.loudeye.com/imc/mayday/mediafile.ram


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RAM
1st February 2002, 20:56
Very intresting

the end of history
1st February 2002, 21:35
It is obvious that the stories given to us are not possible. If this were a movie, the plot holes would be innumerable. There is no doubt in my mind that this is indeed a conspiracy of some sort, even if it seems ridiculous to think so. First, the terrorism is unconventional. Terrorists WANT something- Prisoners released, sanctions lifted, etc. they do not kill innocent people unless their demands are not met (see the WSJ kidnapping) not only were the actions out of context, but terrorists usually admit responsibility. They're proud of their work, and want the world to know it was their good idea. But here, no one has admitted responsibility. Kinda strange, huh? Something this big, someone would want people to know that he/she was behind it. There are other anomalies im sure you all can think of, so lets hear them.

Derar
1st February 2002, 22:43
Very possible ........ thats almost exactly what i thought of .......... except that i though the mosad or the israeli government would have to do something with it ..... in order to trigger the american rage , and put it all on the palestinians , arabs and muslim countries in general ..... and they succeeded so far !!

GuerillaTactics
2nd February 2002, 00:37
I really do not believe it was the Mossad.......but I wouldnt put anything past those bastards....... I think the persons responsible for the attack (whomever it was) did play right into the mossad and Israels hands. The WTC incident was the best thing to happen to Israel in decades............they have been trying to characterise the palestinian people and muslims in general as "terrorists".......to justify the Israelis attrocities and two class system in the land. They continue to have an "us" and "them" type system that keeps the jew in controll and the rest of the population subordinant...........now (and the israelis knew this) was the best time to play on the emotions of the american public and portray the palestinians as terrorists(god i hate that word) and get more U.S. public opinion behind the Israeli seige of Palestinian areas........................................playe d right into the bastard's hands

Derar
2nd February 2002, 20:25
What they broadcasted on the cnn right after the 9-11 attacks , of how the palestinians were celebraing was sick ...... it turned out to be an old recording .......

and this is onother thing that makes me even more sure !!

Xvall
2nd February 2002, 20:37
It WAS an old recording.. From the Gulf War.. CNN is just trying to provoke hate crimes..

GuerillaTactics
2nd February 2002, 20:54
It wasn't even from the gulf war........It was a tape of a celebration after the Oslo Peace Confrence

Xvall
2nd February 2002, 20:56
You want more anomalies eh? How about these..

1) According to the 'Bin Laden Tape' that the Bush Administration released, 'Bin Laden' claimed that "The
Hijackers didn't know they were going to kill themselves", yet according the the Federal Beauro of Investigation, within the hicjackers alleged luggage, they found orders and detailed plans that they were going to crash the planes. Now, some people say that Bin Laden was unaware of this, because terrorists operate on diffirent 'cells'. Maybe so, but in that case, if Bin Laden didn't know that, it would mean that he would not have been the person who ordered the attacks.

2) Bush was caught in a lie, he said in one interview, "And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- " However, there was NO recordings of the first plane hitting the tower. Unless he had someone else recording this beforehand, in which the person would have had to know that attacks were going to commense, he is lying.

3) Not long before September 11th, the United States had already joined a few other countries in a pact against the Afghanistan Taliban.

4) The United states is about the only country that believes the war is necessary. 70% of greece believes that Bin Laden was not behind the terrorist attacks, and Englands second most commonly read newspaper even stated in the headlines that, "This War Is Fraud".

5) One of the Hijackers that was accused of hijacking the first plane, is still alive. He lieves in Ciaro, and he went to a US Embasy to demand an explanation. The other hijacker is alive as well, and has a family of about five to seven people. Therefore, no one has ANY actual idea who the real hijackers were.

6) The telephone calls the the families recieved from the people who were on the planes, for soem reason did NOT show up on their phone bills.

7) When an airplane comes within 15 miles of the World Trade Center on an unregistered flight path, they are warned to back down. When within 10 miles, The aircraft is threatened to be shot down. And within 5 miles of the buildings, the aircraft is supposed to be destroyed. On one of the towers, at the very top. There was an Anti-Aircraf installation in case of such a problem.

8) The Bush Administration forced the FBI to back off of the Bin Laden investigation months before 9/11.

9) The CIA station chief in Dubai met with Bin Laden 7 weeks before 9-11, and at a time when Bin Laden was supposedly "wanted" by the CIA.

10) Strangely Anthrax is sent to (not the President, or Republicans) but to the top Democrat and to the media. A foriegn terrorist would probably want to "divide" the country, not unite the opposition and the media in the war effort.

Just a few thigns I though I'd bring up. Call them Conspiracies, call me insane.. I don't really care.....

- Drake Dracoli

GuerillaTactics
2nd February 2002, 23:30
Our own evil government bears the ultimate responsibility for this disaster, no matter who actually carried it out.

If the homicidal psychopaths of the United States military/government didn't have the nasty habit of mass-murdering civilian men, women and children around the world, there wouldn't be anybody who wanted revenge.

But if foreign terrorists were involved in the September 11 attacks they would have to be the best friends the U.S. government ever had. The U.S. government had everything to gain from this act of barbarism against the American people. In fact, the emerging evidence makes it certain that even if the U.S. military/government did not directly carry out the attacks itself, at the very least it knew about them in advance and allowed them to happen.

Here are six facts which support this conclusion:

Some very unusual criminal insider trading took place on Wall Street the week before September 11. Somebody actually made millions of dollars from the death of thousands of people at the WTC. The specific type of insider trading and the people and banks involved provide very strong circumstantial evidence that wealthy individuals allied with the CIA had prior knowledge of the World Trade Center attack.


The U.S. Air Force does in fact have the technological ability to guide large jet aircraft by remote control, and the jet that hit the Pentagon, in particular, was flown with a very high level of skill, much higher than the supposed "hijackers" were capable of. Also very revealing is the fact that not a single U.S. Air Force jet fighter was scrambled from Andrews Air Force base — which is 10 miles from the Pentagon — even a full hour after the first WTC tower was hit. Andrews Air Force Base is charged with defending Washington D.C.'s airspace. Yet the U.S. Air Force allowed the third jet to circle the Pentagon in a tight, diving spiral, and finally crash into it — on the Army side, interestingly.


Criminal hoaxes have been perpetrated several times before to provide the essential propaganda to launch a U.S. war:


"Remember the Maine!" was a propaganda refrain from the Spanish-American War. And yet the battleship Maine was not sunk by "Cuban terrorists" as the crooked, jingoistic newspapers of the day claimed. But of course the lie was eagerly believed by Americans, and it provided the needed propaganda to start the war in 1898. The war was desired by the piratical American plutocracy in order to seize Spanish territory and assets in the Caribbean and the Philippines.


Until the 9-11 attacks the greatest case of U.S. government fraud involving an assault on Americans was the December 7, 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor. The Pearl Harbor attack was known about in advance. It was allowed to happen because it provided the overwhelming propaganda needed to launch a war against the German and Japanese imperialist competitors of the American Empire.


The 1964 Gulf of Tonkin incident was a hoax that provided the propaganda needed to escalate the Vietnam Genocide.


The Kuwaiti hospital incubator hoax provided propaganda for the Gulf War terror campaign in 1991.


The Bosnian "concentration camp" hoax of 1992 and the Racak "massacre" hoax of 1999 provided the needed propaganda for the U.S./NATO terror campaign against the Yugoslavian people.

These incidents and more are described in greater detail in:
Fake Terror: the Road to Dictatorship.



The brutal terrorism of September 11 against the American people is a propaganda gold mine without precedent for the brutal terrorists of the U.S. military/government and their obedient newsmedia. This propaganda is absolutely essential to the U.S. military/government's geopolitical strategy for world domination.


America's genocidal history makes it abundantly clear that the U.S. government and military have more than enough barbaric ruthlessness to commit such inhuman acts. History proves conclusively that they place no value whatsoever on human life. That's what this whole website is about. Any government and military that will murder people by the millions for profit is not going to have any problem with murdering a few thousand Americans — if there is a major profit motive for it.


Above all else, the U.S. military/government has the profit motive: oil and empire.

The U.S. military is now terrorizing and brutally mass-murdering innocent civilian men, women and children in Afghanistan — people who had absolutely nothing to do with the September 11 attacks. This hypocritical state terrorism is part of a long-term, pre-planned, geopolitical strategy to strengthen the U.S. grip on Mideast oil and get total control of Caspian Sea oil.

The September 11 attacks provided the essential propaganda pretext for a complete military/political/economic takeover of the entire Mideast and Central Asia.

This will give the U.S. a fatal geopolitical advantage over both Russia and China, and assure the military/economic supremacy of the genocidal American Empire for many dark years to come.
At last the bloodthirsty hypocrites of the U.S. military/government can affect public postures of patriotic "defense" while once again chanting "Pearl Harbor!" like a mantra. Gone are the days when the PR propagandists had to cobble together absurd conceptual Frankensteins like "humanitarian bombing" of people in Yugoslavia to sell the Pentagon's latest butchery to the American taxpayer.

This time it was the poor people in Manhattan who were the sacrificial lambs for the U.S. government's genocidal foreign policy. But this terrorist attack was nothing more than a pinprick on the body of The Beast itself. It did no strategic harm to the military, and no harm whatsoever to the U.S. government. Quite the opposite.

The top-level war criminals at the Pentagon and the U.S. government were never honestly upset by the attacks. Far from it — the horror of September 11 handed them all the political ammunition they could possibly have hoped for. American state terrorists wrote themselves a blank check to mass-murder thousands of civilian men, women and children in Afghanistan while the corporate newsmedia trumpeted day and night the dirty lie that the U.S. was "fighting terrorism." The bloodthirsty U.S. military now eagerly looks forward to many more cruel campaigns of state terrorism abroad — wherever there is a profit to be made for its corporate masters.

Meanwhile, with smiles well hidden, U.S. government fascists are ratcheting up their police-state repression at home. They've officially tossed the Bill of Rights out the window. The United States of America is no longer even a nominal democracy, and the FBI tells us of its need to torture prisoners.

Behind closed doors, out of view of the T.V. cameras, the strategists of American Empire are positively gleeful.

Uncle Sham doesn't honestly care the slightest bit about the suffering of people in the World Trade Center, nor of people anywhere in America. American citizens are just cash cows to be psychologically herded this way and that, and perennially lied to. Keep 'em stupid and keep those tax dollars coming in.

And people around the world? Powerless slaves and whores to be exploited to the max. If they dare attempt to be free of the American Empire, bomb them back into submission. Our evil rulers care only for preserving their own wealth and power, nothing more.

The American plutocracy has cruelly abused the world with genocidal campaigns of state terrorism for over 100 years. Now they are thrilled with the prospect of increasing their power through unending campaigns of terror and mass-murder. Let the American people pay the price for their rulers' greed and power lust, the rulers don't care. The downward spiral of carnage and suffering will never end until we're all enslaved or dead.

But if we want to live in peace and freedom, then people must turn off their mind-controlling T.V. sets, wake up from their mass-media brainwashing and get a clue:

The greatest enemy of the American people — and all the world's people — is the terrorist U.S. military/government.

Field Marshal
6th February 2002, 03:10
humdrum, where can I watch more of those files?

Knigel Humdrum
6th February 2002, 03:23
I'm trying to find out where

sorry

peaccenicked
9th February 2002, 17:01
informative article
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/justincol.html
feb 8 2002