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Pawn Power
10th April 2004, 02:44
i am some what new to the forums and i just want to do a little pole.
are you an active member in a communist party? and if so which one is it? or do you just belive in the marxist ideal?
if not what is your political stance, anarchist, socialist, ex... ?
New Tolerance
10th April 2004, 03:38
Used to be a part of the Chinese Young Pioneer, which is associated with the Communist part over there.
I am probably a moderate anarchist.
SittingBull47
10th April 2004, 04:35
welcome to the site.
I'm not registered as a member of the Communist party yet, but i plan to be. I'm Anarcho-Communist.
socialistfuture
10th April 2004, 10:06
im a part of Socialist Worker new zealand - not a registed memeber but i go to meetings and help out with leaflets, read their literature etc. and I will probably join the Alliance a nz socialist party that is running in the elections
here.
I go to GPJA (global peace and justice auckland) Forums sometimes. It is a left-wing group who organises different things and helps with anti war protests.
I heard a Cuban man speak about Cuba and the U.S.A - it was organised by the Cuban Friendship Society. I will keep links with them to. He was very confident about Cuba after Fidel being communist and quite a cool guy I talked to him afterwards.
There a lots of small socialist/communist groups here - some of them are very hostile to each other. I want to see what each one wants and beleives. AT Socialist Worker meetings there has been speakers from abroud. One many from the scottish socialist party (he is a member of parliament), a guy from the england who was on the rail road union, and lady from australia. The new from abroad was intresting. There is a lot happening and a lot of it isnt too visible.
il Commie
10th April 2004, 11:12
There are many "which party you're in?" threads lately. Nevermind.
I am a member of the Israeli Communist Party (it's youth league). I haven't filled up forms, but practically I'm a member.
http://www.maki.org.il
MiniOswald
10th April 2004, 12:46
cool I never knew there was an Israeli communist party, good to know someones got their head screwed on properly over there!
il Commie
10th April 2004, 13:08
Originally posted by
[email protected] 10 2004, 12:46 PM
cool I never knew there was an Israeli communist party, good to know someones got their head screwed on properly over there!
Yes yes, biggest political party among the arab citizens, big faction at the unions' federation and 2 MP's. Respect.
Dawood
10th April 2004, 16:53
I am a member of the Revolutionary Communist Youth in Sweden, youth organisation of the KPML®, Communist Party Marxist-Leninists (Revolutionaries).
However I am just about the leave that organisations. I'm done with leninism. Are instead joining a group called Folkmakt (basicly 'Power to the people' or 'People's Power'). Folkmakt is councilcommunist originally, but now it leans more towards the 'ultraleft' or leftist communism I think.
I am thinking of joining the SAC (Swedish Workers Central Organisation, the syndicalist union) sometime. I dunno. I'll see what happens. Atleast I don't think I'll join a leninist party again.
Brad Chasse
11th April 2004, 04:30
I have a friend at school who wants to start a communist group. I would help but i'm not to crazy about communism, i need to learn more about it first.
Nas
11th April 2004, 04:39
no , im not in a communist party and wont join one
i would rather be in a socialist party
Essential Insignificance
11th April 2004, 09:11
I do yearn to join a communist party one-day…but to be candid the communist and socialist parties in my nation are not corresponding with those of my own revolutionary thoughts.
There predominately Leninist… not in accordance with me and my position of thought.
And I am not theoretically up to "par"… that is to say, where I would like to be.
革命者
11th April 2004, 11:06
Proud to be member of: SP of the Netherlands (http://www.sp.nl/en/).
Are any dutch forum-members here a member of OFFENSIEF?
I would really like to know!
BOZG
11th April 2004, 11:17
I'm a member of the Irish section of Offensief.
革命者
11th April 2004, 11:44
Originally posted by
[email protected] 11 2004, 01:17 PM
I'm a member of the Irish section of Offensief.
Ah, great!
I know to little about the Irish section: is there an URL? are you only affiliated with the CWI or also with other national parties?
BOZG
11th April 2004, 11:46
Only the CWI, whatever links you could claim with the LP in Britain, the LP over here has no real links with workers at all. Yeah the website is Socialist Party (http://www.socialistparty.net) and the Youth section is Socialist Youth (http://socialistyouth.cjb.net).
Are you a member of Offensief?
革命者
11th April 2004, 11:51
no, i am not. But, since i am an active member of the Socialist Party, in constant doubt if i should join them. <_<
BOZG
11th April 2004, 12:00
There's no doubt about it. =P I thought they worked within the SP.
革命者
11th April 2004, 12:10
Yeah, they do. But also in workers unions and so forth and so on.
The only thing is that i sometimes get the feeling they're too dogmatic analyzing Trotsky, where i think it's proposterous to think you can start a revolution by just collectivating(sp?) big businesses. I don't say it wouldn't help, but it's just so post-materialistic, or something, i don't know.. just haven'made my mind up whether they are too much concentrating on futilities.
革命者
11th April 2004, 12:17
Another thing is i don't think it is right to make a left-wing and right-wing in your party, if there's no ground for such division, which i think there is not in the dutch SP, because people won't vote for you çause they don't know what they will get-- If the government-coalition is respectively right-wing - when in the caolition - these forces in our organisation get more influence, and vice versa with a left-wing gov.
EDIT: One plus is, tho. that they promote their non-parliamentarian actions under the flag of OFFESIEF rather than the SP, which is more transparant to the public.
BOZG
11th April 2004, 12:24
The CWI has never said that a revolution would start by collectivising big business, that's just a minimum demand slogan for a socialist society. Trust me on that.
El Che
11th April 2004, 12:35
I have disagreements with the "communist" party in my country... I support a 'new left' platform. Though the question is in its self of little irrelevance. Change can only come with majority support for socialism. Bourgeois politics are really just another medium in which to try to raise awareness of leftist views and, perhaps, achieve minor improvements here and there.
革命者
11th April 2004, 12:41
Yes, i reckon it's neccesary, but there's so much more to do: stopping the government from privatising public companies for one.
And on the left- and right-wing bit, i haven't made myself tottaly clear, i think: the non-parliamentarian actions they undertake are splendid, but could be done under thet SP flag. Just only if, Offensief makes it clear that they've slightly different perceptions than the SP has: if there has to be a division, make it apparent. But ouside of parliament this isn't neccesary. Demonstrating is thoroughly pragmatic in that you try to change the system, but are not totally sure about the outcome. Just that it is more to the left in the political spectrum, as with the most mass-demonstrations is the - often humble - result, so the entire left can and should present themselves to the public as one. Not as a bunch of pseudo-revolutionaries or whiny anarchists/a black bloc.
革命者
11th April 2004, 12:43
Originally posted by El
[email protected] 11 2004, 02:35 PM
I have disagreements with the "communist" party in my country... I support a 'new left' platform. Though the question is in its self of little irrelevance. Change can only come with majority support for socialism. Bourgeois politics are really just another medium in which to try to raise awareness of leftist views and, perhaps, achieve minor improvements here and there.
politics should be mastered to change it in something more valuable to democracy.
革命者
11th April 2004, 12:44
It's like with The Beatles: they changed mainstream music.
We will change mainstream politics.
il Commie
11th April 2004, 13:30
Originally posted by ć@Apr 11 2004, 12:44 PM
It's like with The Beatles: they changed mainstream music.
We will change mainstream politics.
Nice metaphore! :D
dark fairy
11th April 2004, 22:03
i'm not sure where i belong but i guess marxist...
and i am a member of a club at my school for young communists :unsure:
革命者
12th April 2004, 11:26
And what does your club of young communists do? :)
Hey guys!
You can't be seriously saying that no-one apart from the few that posted in this thread are a member of at least a socialist party!? pseudo-socialist? stalinist/fascist?
Pedro Alonso Lopez
12th April 2004, 11:37
Ex-member of the SP, its how I know BOZG.
I am a member of no party at the moment but I guess by your definition I will join a psuedo-socialist party soon maybe after college. College politics is one of the most disillusioning things ever in terms of sheer idiocy.
革命者
12th April 2004, 12:16
Originally posted by
[email protected] 12 2004, 01:37 PM
Ex-member of the SP, its how I know BOZG.
I am a member of no party at the moment but I guess by your definition I will join a psuedo-socialist party soon maybe after college. College politics is one of the most disillusioning things ever in terms of sheer idiocy.
You mean as in politicology: not the politics in college, if you know what i mean? :unsure:
If that's the case politicology in Ireland is worse than in the Netherlands, i suppose. Here it's quite "enlightning" :)
Well, maybe not... activism is the way, anyway <_<
Fidel Castro
12th April 2004, 15:00
I am not a member of any political party at present.
I will most likely join the SSP (Scottish Socialist Party), who aim for an independent, socialist Scotland. They currently have 6 members in the Scottish parliament, and their leader, Tommy Sheridon, was an active campaigner against the war in Iraq and often stages protests against nuclear arms. I think he's also been arrested several times for his protests.
The British Communist Party appears to be innefective and sidelined.
BOZG
12th April 2004, 19:57
their leader, Tommy Sheridon, was an active campaigner against the war in Iraq and often stages protests against nuclear arms. I think he's also been arrested several times for his protests.
And has also said that he'd like to see a mixed economy with a highly skilled workforce, like Germany and France. He must not have noticed the massive neo-liberal attacks on the workforces in both countries.
Nobody
12th April 2004, 20:28
I am associated with the Worker's Army of America. Very little membership, no website. You don't pick it, it picks you.
I was allowed to join because I was kicked out of various parties, SWP, SPUSA, and CPUSA for being to "radical". Revolution is not an important issue to these reformists btches.
Fidel Castro
13th April 2004, 00:00
And has also said that he'd like to see a mixed economy with a highly skilled workforce, like Germany and France. He must not have noticed the massive neo-liberal attacks on the workforces in both countries.
Yea, and I'm afraid his biggest problem is that many people do not take him or his party seriously, simply because he spends much of his time ranting and raving rather than attempting to give persuasive arguments or show much intellectual appeal.
What's your personal oppinion on Mr Sheridon BOZG?
BOZG
13th April 2004, 16:14
I think the fact that 6 people who call themselves socialists openly have been elected to parliament is a very progressive step and a sign that consciousness is moving to the left. As for Sheridan himself, he think he will begin to move more and more towards the right and there's a danger that the rest of the party will do so. The potential exists for the SSP to become a real alternative if a strong revolutionary tendancy can be built within the party. As you said, Sheridan is not often taken seriously, as well as the rest of the party but only time will tell. The legalisation of cannabis question has dwarfed a lot of the SSP.
konev
14th April 2004, 18:16
i am a menber of Ung Vänster, means young left. The youth organazation of the main left party in Sweden, UV is not the most radical but it is stronger that any other leftgroup here. We have 14 000 members while the only other large left group, RKU has 1500
RedStar*
14th April 2004, 20:29
Hİ all im from turkey and im a member of ''Turkey Communist Party'' and we have got 85.000 vote and we are groving .....
Maomorethanever726
14th April 2004, 21:54
I was going to join the Youth Communist League here in the US...but Im gonna wait a month till I turn 18 and join the CPUSA. I wish to join and support it eventhough Im an Anarcho-Commie
Shane
17th April 2004, 08:56
UK Communist Youth
Click Here (http://www.ycl.org.uk/)
kinda sidelined tbh
Kez
17th April 2004, 10:04
Sheridans SSP is turning more and more to the right. Recently they even got a top member of the SNP (Scottish Nationalist Party)!
Sheridans call for independence is idiotic. Socialists are internationalists, and only the combined force of the workers of the world can overthrow capitalism. An independant Scotland would mean a weaker collective workforce, as International Capital doesnt work along borders, and would crush a "Scottish" working class. That is why Scottish, English, Welsh workers must unite and show their colleective strength, ignoring all borders, to smash capitalism!
As well as this the SSP is not a revolutionary organisation, and as BOZG has said, Sheridans ideal for a Swedish model is a disgrace for a "socialist" to call for.
Shane, the YCL arent too bad compared to many youth groups, i hear you came 2nd in the Oxford uni elections, thats pretty good. Where are you from by the way?
I myself am a member of YFIS (Youth For International Socialism) and of Socialist Appeal (the main section). I joined because i believe our theories are correct, and that our methods are the best way for us to get to the workers, and be most effecctive when fighting for a revolution.
Shane
17th April 2004, 10:17
yes, i think also a member of the CYL ran for Youth Parliament in Nottingham, im not sure how it went. i plan to run as a candidate next year for the South Yorkhire Youth Parliament.
革命者
17th April 2004, 12:00
Originally posted by
[email protected] 17 2004, 12:17 PM
yes, i think also a member of the CYL ran for Youth Parliament in Nottingham, im not sure how it went. i plan to run as a candidate next year for the South Yorkhire Youth Parliament.
What is exactly a Youth Parliament? Can it give unasked advice? Have they any influence? :(
Shane
17th April 2004, 12:28
check it out, yes, they have an influence
click it (http://www.ukyp.org.uk/)
Latin American Socialist
21st April 2004, 03:29
I'm in The LACP Latin American Communist Party.
Voice of the Revolution
23rd April 2004, 11:28
Originally posted by ć@Apr 17 2004, 12:00 PM
yes, i think also a member of the CYL ran for Youth Parliament in Nottingham, im not sure how it went. i plan to run as a candidate next year for the South Yorkhire Youth Parliament.
Yeah, that was me. I lost out by two votes, but the whole youth parliament is so-anti politics that I wasn't allowed to stand on a political basis. Plus most of the kids there were fucktards who had just been dragged off the streets, probably part of there 'rehabilitation'.
In the end, the two who got in were a small guy who got the sympathy vote, and a funny guy. It turned me off the whole 'votes at sixteen' thing I can tell you.
struct
23rd April 2004, 16:23
I smell bacon.
Pedro Alonso Lopez
23rd April 2004, 16:55
Originally posted by ć+Apr 12 2004, 12:16 PM--> (ć @ Apr 12 2004, 12:16 PM)
[email protected] 12 2004, 01:37 PM
Ex-member of the SP, its how I know BOZG.
I am a member of no party at the moment but I guess by your definition I will join a psuedo-socialist party soon maybe after college. College politics is one of the most disillusioning things ever in terms of sheer idiocy.
You mean as in politicology: not the politics in college, if you know what i mean? :unsure:
If that's the case politicology in Ireland is worse than in the Netherlands, i suppose. Here it's quite "enlightning" :)
Well, maybe not... activism is the way, anyway <_< [/b]
Yeah the politcology.
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