Islamic Misconceptions

[Kurai Tsuki]

These are some common Islamic misconceptions that have made their way into the knowledge of the masses over the last 60 years.
The first and probably most common Islamic misconception is that Allah is the Moslem name for God, Allah is is actually the Arabic word for god, (Alliyah being gods and Allat being goddess). The second is related to the spellings “Moslem,” and, “Muslim,” the original English spelling for a person of Islamic faith was Moslem, and Muslim was used by the followers of the black nationalist group the “Nation of Islam” to refer to themselves, this variation can be seen in classic books such as The Autobiography of Malcom X where Moslem is used to refer to one who practiced the original Islam. The Nation of Islam is also responsible for the misconception about the name. The original Islamic declaration was (and still is by smart Moslems lol) “There is one God but God and Mohammed is his Messenger," but the Nation of Islam changed this to suit their wishes by making it “There is no God but Allah and (Elijah) Mohammed is his apostle,” and then the name Allah just stuck.

As often is the case, misconceptions are formed in an instant by ignorant people, but the truth takes time to re-instate.

[dark fairy]

everything is a misconception... EVERYTHING!

[Kurai Tsuki]

Originally posted by dark [email protected] 10 2004, 01:52 AM
everything is a misconception... EVERYTHING!
Yeah, i should know that, I'm also a Pagan :unsure:

[dark fairy]

it's understandable

[Severian]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2004, 07:46 PM
The second is related to the spellings “Moslem,” and, “Muslim,”
As there's no standard system of transliteration between the Arabic and Roman alphabets, there's really no right or wrong English spelling of Arabic words. E.g. is the president of Libya named Khadafy, Gaddaffi, or something else? Depends what newspaper you're reading.

[Rasta Sapian]

all I know is that jesus christ died, was barried and rose again around 4 or 5 hundred years before the prophet named mohamad lived.

but its all good, we are all people of God!


peace yall

[Pawn Power]

very intresting stuff Kurai_Tsuki

thanks for informing us
now we can better understand all people

[Solace]

The first and probably most common Islamic misconception is that Allah is the Moslem name for God, Allah is is actually the Arabic word for god. (Alliyah being gods and Allat being goddess).

That is a misconception common to those who supercifially try to avoid misconceptions. You are mixing the Islamic and the Arabic viewpoint.

Allah actually comes from the Aramaic word « Alaha », meaning God or The God. Originally, that is what it is. The semitic word for God in Arabic is actually Ilha.

But time passes and things change.

Allah became the name of The One and only God, in the Islamic view. Allah is a unique name with unique pronunciation. You cannot change it according to gender or to adapt it to the plural form.

You know, they got a big fuss about it. Ethymologists somehow linked the God in the Bible to the God in the Quran. They are all arguing about whether Christians and Muslims are worshipping the same God. It’s hilarious to see them bickering about that.

[(*]

Originally posted by Rasta [email protected] 9 2004, 11:47 PM
all I know is that jesus christ died, was barried and rose again around 4 or 5 hundred years before the prophet named mohamad lived.

but its all good, we are all people of God!


peace yall
I'm trying to figure out your point here.

Hundreds of years before Jesus, there were prophets around as well.

[pandora]

Originally posted by Rasta [email protected] 10 2004, 03:47 AM


but its all good, we are all people of God!


Except for me I'm Buddhist, hey one enlightened beings as good as another, eventually everyone will be enlightened, communism for gods!

[Comrade BNS]

The second is related to the spellings “Moslem,” and, “Muslim,” the original English spelling for a person of Islamic faith was Moslem, and Muslim was used by the followers of the black nationalist group the “Nation of Islam” to refer to themselves, this variation can be seen in classic books such as The Autobiography of Malcom X where Moslem is used to refer to one who practiced the original Islam.

Go to your local library and look for a copy of Introducing Islam by one of my favorite authors, Ziauddin Sardar. On the second page you will see a note that states, "the term and spelling 'Moslem' is a condescending and derogatory term reffering to followers of Islam, used by those who have a stiff upper lip and have trouble in pronouncing the "u" sound in Muslim"

Comrade BNS

[Severian]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2004, 10:21 PM
Allah actually comes from the Aramaic word « Alaha », meaning God or The God. Originally, that is what it is. The semitic word for God in Arabic is actually Ilha.
A lot of Koranic words - including the word Koran itself - come from Aramaic/Syriac. (Others come from Hebrew and Persian.) So it wouldn't be surprising if "Allah" comes from Syriac/Aramaic as well.

As a materialist, I find it unlikely that Islam was brought down from heaven by the Angel Gabriel, or event that it was created entirely by Muhammad's imagination, if he in fact ever existed. I find it more likely that it's a synthesis of older monotheistic religions of the Fertile Crescent, including Christianity. So it seems possible the unknown authors of the Koranic texts took the name of the creator from Arabic-speaking Christians. Some of them may even have originally been Christian texts.

Regardless of its origin, the word "Allah" is now used by Arabic-speaking Christians and Muslims alike.

[Dawood]

Allah is just another way of writing Al-Lah. "Al" being the arabic version of the english "the", so Allah means THE God. The name in itself making it clear to everyone (atleast if they speak arabic) that the god the speak is talking about is supposted to be the ONLY god.

Muslim or moslem are both right. Muhammedan howerver is the deregatory way to desribe an muslim.

Worth to note is that arabic christians and jews (there are over 7 million in Egypt alone) also use the word Allah. In arabic bibles they use the exakt same word for god as is used int eh qua'ran.

Also, the debate over "are they worshipping the same god" is actually quite easy to solve. The muslims see it that way, the christians don't. Jesus is mentioned on several places in the qua'ran, but as an prophet, not as the son of god.

[DORRI]

I wanted to explain about Allah,muslim(or moslem);but I found the answers quite enough for elementry class!I have some more informations about terminology of Allah,but it needs more researches yet and I want to share it first with an arab comrade if possible(by PM perhaps)
and about the word moslem: I think its not important how we pronounce it,what is important is knowing what it really refers to.
btw, we in persian use the word "mosalman" which -arabs know-is somehow different from the main word,but when we mean the main meaning of it,there's no problem.

[abigratsass]

im a muslim or moslem or whatevr you want to spell it cause to me it makes no diffrence !!
i found absloutly no point to this and would love for some one to pont it out...
as for the name ''allah'' this is only one of gods 99 names other include rahmen''mercifull'' , karim'' giving'' ,shakour''thankfull'' and other names that are mostly things that we should try to be .
whether you say moslem or muslim or god or rab or allah ,being a musim is beliving in all past prophets including jesus and mosses and beliving in the teachings in thier books '' althought we belive that these books have been changed to suit rabbis and priets personal wants'' and following the teachings of the quran and siddana mohmed .
anywayz if you guys want to ask me about anything about islam or the middel east ill be glad to answer it cause i understand that misconceptions of my religon and sulture are out there and id love to clear them up and hear what you think about the whole situation.
my email is [email protected]
salam

[praxis1966]

Originally posted by Rasta [email protected] 9 2004, 09:47 PM
all I know is that jesus christ died, was barried and rose again around 4 or 5 hundred years before the prophet named mohamad lived.

but its all good, we are all people of God!


peace yall
There's actually a simple scientific explanation for that. It's called a COMA. And while we're playing the "I was here first game," lotus blossoms opened up in Buddha's footsteps around 2000 years before Jesus was born.

[redstar2000]

I agree that we should all try to clear up misconceptions about Islam...such as the one about how they treat women.


A TV presenter who says she was beaten by her husband has allowed newspapers to show pictures of her swollen face to highlight domestic abuse.

Rania al-Baz said her husband, Mohammed al-Fallatta, beat her so hard earlier this week that he broke her nose and fractured her face in 13 places.

"It is considered a husband's rights that his wife should obey him," Abeer Mishkhas, of the Saudi English-language newspaper Arab News, told BBC News Online.

"This can involve coercion or violence, and we know that the majority of cases of this kind go unreported and unnoticed."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/middle_east/3631743.stm

While the United Nations "Human Rights Commission" is busy condemning Cuba, I continue to await word on their verdict regarding Saudi Arabia and the Islamic world in general.

But I'm not holding my breath.

:redstar2000:

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[Revolt!]

Ironically women saw greater freedoms under Mohammed in Medina when he took control of the city and first implemented Islam. Islam also means submission in Arabic, charming.