For Revolutionary Rookies

[Nas]

For all the rookies :

You probably have the right concept & ideas on what you fighting for . Thats good

The revolution will eventually bring war. In war you will not want to loose so you must be prepared.
Well , let's look at Che Guevara , he was a revolutionary and he knew how to act in the revolution.

Now, im not going to tell you to buy a gun and practice your shooting skills.

But i recommend you to read this book:

Sun Tzu and the Art of Modern Warfare

also called Art of War by Sun Tsung ( not to be confuse with Art of War by Machiavelli)

here is a link: Amazon: Sun Tzu and Art of Modern Warfare (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0195133404/103-8464054-7384620?v=glance)

Get it, buy it , borrow it , cop it if you must , but if you want to be part of the revolution , you need to be educated
Try to read that book and understand it.

We want no sissies during the revolution :che:

[mysticofthewest]

Also try to pick up Mastering The Art of War By Zhuage Laing do not get it if you havent read the art of war you wouldn't understand it

[elijahcraig]

It's so hilarious to see a person using a corporate rap star's name as a "revolutionary name" and speaking of war.

I almost fell out of my seat here.

[Pawn Power]

i hope when the revolution takes place their will be such mass suport that we could simple overthough the capitalist by sher number of the working class, with out breaking combat.

Do you think we will have to take up arms in the revolution or will the working class over through the proletariatbe overwhelming majority?

[SittingBull47]

take up arms. revolution isn't free, you know.

[Nas]

if you think we (socialists/anarchists/ communists) are the only ones who want war - you are wrong

take it a look at this forum :

http://pub12.ezboard.com/fpoliticalpalacefrm1

[Pedro Alonso Lopez]

What are you talking about war for, it would be a revolution for Christs sake. That is a mass revolt against the oppressing classes who are a minority.

If it is a real revolution the army and police will join the proletariat anyway.

[Pawn Power]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2004, 04:17 PM


If it is a real revolution the army and police will join the proletariat anyway.
you make an excellent point comrade

[Eastside Revolt]

Originally posted by glory+Apr 12 2004, 03:21 AM--> (glory @ Apr 12 2004, 03:21 AM)
[email protected] 11 2004, 04:17 PM


If it is a real revolution the army and police will join the proletariat anyway.
you make an excellent point comrade [/b]
Yeah it is a good point but then again that isn't likely for like another 500 years. :P

[Gunman]

A great example is the 25th April revolution in Portugal, in 1974 :)

[Louis Pio]

Or the recent events in Bolivia were big parts of the police were starting to come to the side of the striking workers.
There is lot's of examples from recent history.

[canikickit]

Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2004, 05:17 PM
it would be a revolution for Christs sake.
I agree with you! We must revolt in the name of Jesus, the son of God!

:lol:

[Pathos]

I think we americans (or the leftist ones) should all get together and start a revolution. we will need to be educated first of course with literature and with arms etc. we need to open americas eyes to see that the country they wive in isn't the best because i would think its very obvious that were going to be overthrown. We just need to light a match.
By the way The Art Of War by Sun Tzu is an exceptional book though at times hard to understand.

[Nas]

if you think about it and if you actually read the book , Art of War , its not only about War

[mysticofthewest]

thats true the art of war can be called a gide to life because the essance of life is conflict

[Individual]

Sit back, let Capitalism defeat itself, and eat that McDonald's hamburger.

Atleast here in America, no war is to be won against Capitalism. Capitalism will defeat itself, and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

Go ahead, take up arms and form your couple thousand man army. After you are prosecuted as a terrorist, feel free to send us an update on how your doing.

Capitalism will likely not be defeated in my life time, probably not even yours. We all need to take a break, appreciate the progression of time, and let Capitalism crumble. Taking up arms will likely get you nowhere, let alone forming a Marxist revolution in a blatant Anti-Marxist society.

[Pathos]

well while you sit there and let the capitalists take over, I and a lot of other people hopefully will overthrow them and if we don't less americans to deal with right.

[Kurai Tsuki]

The Art of War can be found the internet, as can Harakuge.

[Hiero]

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2004, 03:47 AM
well while you sit there and let the capitalists take over, I and a lot of other people hopefully will overthrow them and if we don't less americans to deal with right.
Your a idiont, we dont just make a little treehouse group and have a revoltuion, USA has fuck all support for marxist-revoltuion the best thing you can do is start a propaganda network, with the aim to start union militantism and then when the thrid world revolt and the USA start to collapse then use violent revolt.

[/QUOTE]Sun Tzu and the Art of Modern Warfare[QUOTE]

Thats like a 1000 year olds isnt it, people only read it for the hell of it with the advancement of technology it would be foolish to "learn" this book.

[bunk]

you commie club guys always say the revolution will happen, capitalism is self destructing........ well what comes around goes around, the way you talk you are just hoping for communism for a while and then die out again. Not true, capitalism could keep strong with concessions and life being good for people in 1st world. It's not gonna happen even at the right time without a group of people taking the initiative and setting the example, to educate people about 3rd world cause even poor people have a pretty good life in the west. You have to educate about the majority suffering.

[Wenty]

Capitalism will likely not be defeated in my life time, probably not even yours. We all need to take a break, appreciate the progression of time, and let Capitalism crumble

Trotskyite!

[Hiero]

AHAHAHA. It is very foolish to think that, if we let capitalism crumlbe you dont think the capitalist arent going to be ready for it. The will just set up a autocratic dictaroship. Now is the time for propaganda attack to get the working class ready for the pre crumble times.

[Darkwing]

Hmmm.
The capitalists... are going to be ready for it?
By capitalists, you mean CEO's and people.
Are you implying that the world's CEO's are part of a vast conspiracy?
Sorry, but any conspiracy theory sounds pretty loony to me.

Except for Bill Gates. Your "Ancient Art of War" won't do much against his armies of killer robots.

Plus, anyone talking about the working class revolutionizing in the US is being silly. What's going to happen is this -
Companys will look at the success of say... Microsoft, and mirror its idea of having lots of employee ownership.
New IT solutions and things like the American Express OPEN network will cause small businesses (which are very employee friendly and employee run) to boom.
The internet will keep connecting people, and people will start to open up more and more to the people in 3rd world countries, and others. Things will begin to change.
Walmart will be destroyed by Zeus the god of Lightning.

Now relax, go get yourselves in on the Google IPO, and have a pina colada.

[Nas]

there is a reason why the book i recommend it is called "The Art of Modern Warfare" not "The Art of War" , they are both different books

and thanks to this book , the Persian Gulf War was won fast and easily by Americans



"For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill"

[Hiero]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2004, 08:34 PM
"For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill"
Oh gee thanks for that enlighting quote i wonder if that is the tactic fidel used.

[Hiero]

Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2004, 08:16 PM
Hmmm.
The capitalists... are going to be ready for it?
By capitalists, you mean CEO's and people.
Are you implying that the world's CEO's are part of a vast conspiracy?
Sorry, but any conspiracy theory sounds pretty loony to me.


Im not talking about a conspiracy im talking about them forseeing the future and organise counter revoltuionaries.