Insurgents fight back...

[The Feral Underclass]

All over the news the anchor men and women are talking about how towns in Iraq have been lost to insurgents who are resisting the illegal occupation of Iraq. Faluja and Kut have both been won back against the Americans who have pulled out of both cities.

Over 300 Iraqis have been killed, including civilians since the uprising began a few days ago, and the US army has been accused of using this uprising as a reason for vengence against the murder of four american engineers.

This latest uprising has taken on new meaning. It was reported on News 24 that in Faluja, US trained policemen had joined with the insurgents in fighting the Americans. There seems to be a real sense of determination, more so than before, with the resistence fighters, it seems that they are more highly organized, widly supported and with a clear agenda of liberating the country. Do people think that this is the end of American occupation, or is it the beginning of a long drawn out guerilla war?

Fuck US Imperialism...Victory for the Resistence!

[lucid]

Originally posted by The Anarchist [email protected] 9 2004, 10:28 AM
All over the news the anchor men and women are talking about how towns in Iraq have been lost to insurgents who are resisting the illegal occupation of Iraq. Faluja and Kut have both been won back against the Americans who have pulled out of both cities.

Over 300 Iraqis have been killed, including civilians since the uprising began a few days ago, and the US army has been accused of using this uprising as a reason for vengence against the murder of four american engineers.

This latest uprising has taken on new meaning. It was reported on News 24 that in Faluja, US trained policemen had joined with the insurgents in fighting the Americans. There seems to be a real sense of determination, more so than before, with the resistence fighters, it seems that they are more highly organized, widly supported and with a clear agenda of liberating the country. Do people think that this is the end of American occupation, or is it the beginning of a long drawn out guerilla war?

Fuck US Imperialism...Victory for the Resistence!
Strange, on the way to work I was listening to a radio talk show that was interviewing someone that is in Fallujah. He said there are around 250,000 Iraqis in Fallujah and they estimate only 1500 insurgents. He was saying that from speaking to locals and a lot of them didn't support the insurgents.

They are typical religious fanatics using terrorists tactics and of course you commies support them.

[Monty Cantsin]

yer Fuck US Imperialism...Victory for the Resistence!!!!!

[Monty Cantsin]

sorry but really anything got to be better then a pro US government.

[Intifada]

lucid, how the fuck are these insurgents terrorists? they are resisting an illegal occupation and have full right to do so. they are not terrorists, they are freedom fighters.

fuck america!

death to the imperialists!

[lucid]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2004, 01:57 PM
lucid, how the fuck are these insurgents terrorists? they are resisting an illegal occupation and have full right to do so. they are not terrorists, they are freedom fighters.

fuck america!

death to the imperialists!
It's not illegal. It a continuation of the UN sanctioned War that began in '91. The UN didn't have the balls to finish the job so of course the US had to. Any orginisation that gives Iran the human rights seat is a joke anyway.

It's funny how you peeps ignore the fact that Islam is attacking people all over the world. It's no different in Iraq. They are terrorists thugs that hide behind the people that they supposedly are fighting for.

America isn't a country you fucktard, it's a continent.

Death to the imperialists? Not in your life time, but if you want to waste away being pissed off at the big kid on the block go right ahead. USA isn't going anywhere soon.

[The Feral Underclass]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2004, 12:38 PM
Strange, on the way to work I was listening to a radio talk show that was interviewing someone that is in Fallujah. He said there are around 250,000 Iraqis in Fallujah and they estimate only 1500 insurgents. He was saying that from speaking to locals and a lot of them didn't support the insurgents.
Of course this maybe the case, but then again it may not be. Which radio station was this? I am imagining that if it is a radio station that people like you listen to is not a reliable source. Especially if it is American. The media, especially right wing media will do anything to play down what is going on. The media are more likely to support the ruling class and its agenda, rather than be independent and critical.


They are typical religious fanatics using terrorist’s tactics and of course you commies support them.

"Fanatics"? Interesting. It is quite easy to dismiss them as "fanatics," which is very convenient on a public relations side, than say that they are fighting an illegal occupation of their country. Many people in Iraq are religious, as are many of the US soldiers who are occupying Iraq. The word fanatic is simply a word used to try and dehumanize the people who are fighting for their liberation. It is far easier to hate a "fanatic" than understand exactly what is going on there.

I support them, as I am sure many other communists support them, because they are fighting against US imperialism. I would sooner support religious fanatics, than some gun-hoe American soldiers perpetrating an imperialist agenda.

The sooner the US and its allies remove themselves from Iraq, the sooner their soldiers will stop dying.

[truthaddict11]

America isn't a country you fucktard, it's a continent.
i am pretty sure he was refering to the United States and not the entire continent of North or South America

[Misodoctakleidist]

lol, you get stupider everyday lucid.

It's funny how the UN didn't see the iraq war as a continuation of the '91 gulf war, they, like most people, considered that war to be over when they signed a peace treaty.

How exactly are the resistance fighters terrists, they're attacking the the coalition army not civillians, funnily enough it's the US army who are killing civillians.


America isn't a country you fucktard, it's a continent.
He was clearly using 'america' as an abbreviation of 'the united states of america' but it obviously makes you feel good to pretend you've won some kind of intellectual victory. Well done, you've really impressed me, i now quiver the wake of your intellectually might and mature debating skills.

[Xvall]

These insurgents seem to be targeting military personell. Unless they are deliberately targeting civilians to get across their socio-political agenda, they are not terrorists.

[Don't Change Your Name]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2004, 02:11 PM
America isn't a country you fucktard, it's a continent.
Well maybe you should start by telling this to the 240 million (not sure of the quantity) of people that live in yankeeland. This is a typical right-wing crap to make the leftists look ridiculous, they first create a mistake, spread it, and then use it against the opposition.

Dumbasses. It seems this rich white idiots have spent a lot to rule the world using this cheap tactics.

[Capitalist Imperial]

This thread was made much too hastily by an overzealous puke. These few insurgents that are bent on stopping freedom and democracy in Iraq are merely ex-Saddam loyalists who lost the most from the liberation of Iraq, and their criminal actions will dealt with swiftly, strongly, and decisively.

Kut has already been taken back by US forces.

The US military has been benevolent enough to halt offensive operations in Fajullah in an effort to garner talks and let women/childeren out of the city. The insurgents would be best advised to lay down their arms and capitulate now, lest the streets flow with their blood and the blood of any other fundamentalist rebels that wants to prevent freedom and democracy in Iraq. Make no mistake about it, all criminal uprisings will be met with decisive US military responses, and offenders will be eradicated with extreme prejudice. Fajullah will be under Coalition control by Sunday evening

Don't let some of these these sensationalized media reports fool you, the majority of Iraqis are not participating in an uprising. The majority of Iraqis are glad that the US is there and Saddam is gone. The BBC just released a poll supporting this notion yesterday.

Democratic government in Iraq friendlly to US interests is inevitable, and a few embittered Saddam-loyal holdouts will not prevent this.

[Hoppe]

Hmm, Al Sadr is a shiite and they are loyal to only one and that is Allah. Hussein was a Sunni and oppressed the Shiite majority for decades. The latter even asked for the immediate execution of Hussein after he was captured by the US.

This leaves only one option open and that is that these people only want one thing, which is to establish a new islamic republic (in which Sunni's certainly won't be welcome).

Open your eyes and acknowledge that these guys are not freedomfighters. You have such a black and white view of the islam that it is becoming really pathetic.

[Misodoctakleidist]

Originally posted by Capitalist [email protected] 9 2004, 06:45 PM
The US military has been benevolent enough to halt offensive operations in Fajullah in an effort to garner talks and let women/childeren out of the city. The insurgents would be best advised to lay down their arms and capitulate now, lest the streets flow with their blood and the blood of any other fundamentalist rebels that wants to prevent freedom and democracy in Iraq. Make no mistake about it, all criminal uprisings will be met with decisive US military responses, and offenders will be eradicated with extreme prejudice. Fajullah will be under Coalition control by Sunday evening
:o How long have you been in command of the US military?


These few insurgents that are bent on stopping freedom and democracy in Iraq are merely ex-Saddam loyalists who lost the most from the liberation of Iraq

As hoppe pointed out the shiites were oppressed by hussein.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by Misodoctakleidist+Apr 9 2004, 07:03 PM--> (Misodoctakleidist @ Apr 9 2004, 07:03 PM)
Capitalist [email protected] 9 2004, 06:45 PM
The US military has been benevolent enough to halt offensive operations in Fajullah in an effort to garner talks and let women/childeren out of the city. The insurgents would be best advised to lay down their arms and capitulate now, lest the streets flow with their blood and the blood of any other fundamentalist rebels that wants to prevent freedom and democracy in Iraq. Make no mistake about it, all criminal uprisings will be met with decisive US military responses, and offenders will be eradicated with extreme prejudice. Fajullah will be under Coalition control by Sunday evening
:o How long have you been in command of the US military?


These few insurgents that are bent on stopping freedom and democracy in Iraq are merely ex-Saddam loyalists who lost the most from the liberation of Iraq

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As hoppe pointed out the shiites were oppressed by hussein.

I concur. I was referring mostly to Fajullah, where the ex-Baathist Sunnis are about to pay the price for their insurgency (Kut was never really an uprising, just a minor incident that has already been dealt with).

As for the islamic fundamentalists, the US military will draw no distinction between those who oppose freedom and democracy for religious reasons and those who oppose freedom and democracy for political reasons.

The US will conduct operations in Iraq until a US-friendly government and stability are established, and all enemies of US forces and US interests will be dealt with accordingly. These few criminal actions are mere incidentals, and are indicative of nothing more than a few individuals who want the heavy hand of oppression to continue to have a hold in Iraq.

America will not allow this to happen.

[bunk]

what about Najaf where Sadr and most of his militia are, that hasn't been attacked yet...

[Capitalist Imperial]

Originally posted by [email protected] 9 2004, 07:54 PM
what about Najaf where Sadr and most of his militia are, that hasn't been attacked yet...
They only hold a portion of Najaf, and trust me, they will be dealt with soon enough.