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pandora
5th April 2004, 21:55
Without stating specifics that would betray your location, what actions of police brutality are occuring near you?

Several years ago in traveling through many different countries seemed police brutality was on the head lines of many different papers, as is shortages in school funding unfortunately.

These two things seem common in all capitalist societies. Coincidence I'm sure.

What's happening near you, just rode bus with a woman who's son was shot down last week in cold blood she was on her way to an interview or inquest and had to ride the bus, broke my heart. We've had 30 such murders here. Several this year
"Routine Traffic Stop" "Unarmed" usually "Minority" seem to be in every case, whether male, female, or no matter which ethnicity.
Che wrote about the commonness of such images and how Cuba seemed to be everywhere after the shooting of the prisoners in the Sierras.

Hampton
6th April 2004, 07:07
Where are you from? I know in Portland the police recently shot an unarmed man, James Perez, a week or two ago. But you are more than right when you say it's a minority who turns out to be just another accident when the police were to quick to judge and it ends in murder.

The life of the victim ends up meaning little or nothing.

yoshim
6th April 2004, 07:38
I live in Australia and i don't think police are as bad over here cause there doesn't seem to be much troubel, more trouble with bouncers.

seen_che
6th April 2004, 09:48
Damn i have never headr of police here shooting anyone.....if they dont hide it :blink:

Nordic Rebel
6th April 2004, 10:02
I live in Australia and i don't think police are as bad over here cause there doesn't seem to be much troubel, more trouble with bouncers.

What about the (white) cops who patrol the Aboriginal slums that use pictures of aboriginals as target practice? There was a short piece on them here in Finland when there were the riots over the death of aboriginal boy. If I recall he was something like 8 or 10

Saint-Just
6th April 2004, 10:33
In Britain a greater problem that police brutality is a lack of police and the massive amount of crime that does occur. There is also a problem with a minority of racist policemen and policemen with other prejudices.

However, a startling amount of people get away with crimes due to a lack of police and a lack of ability to prosecute. I have been a victim of crime and have seen many, many victims of crime than I have seen victims of police brutality. In Britain the police can be brutal though, like in all countries.

There is certainly a lack of funding in many public services, like schools as mentioned.

Hiero
6th April 2004, 12:35
Originally posted by Nordic [email protected] 6 2004, 10:02 AM

I live in Australia and i don't think police are as bad over here cause there doesn't seem to be much troubel, more trouble with bouncers.

What about the (white) cops who patrol the Aboriginal slums that use pictures of aboriginals as target practice? There was a short piece on them here in Finland when there were the riots over the death of aboriginal boy. If I recall he was something like 8 or 10
Yeah cops in areas around aboriginal communities i have heard can be bad, but im full on the circumstances. They boy was 17 he had missed his summit to court the cops were looking for a bag snatcher seen him and he ran and got impalied.

brendy_éire
6th April 2004, 22:45
I live in the north of Ireland, currently occupied by the Brits. Tons of police brutality goes on here. Also by the British Army. It's not as bad as it used to be, but still completely unacceptable.
Don't think they've killed anyone recently, last time would have been a few years ago when the police and British army helped kill Rosemary Nelson, a human rights lawyer, with a car bomb.

Louis Pio
6th April 2004, 22:50
Here in Denmark police don't shoot people so often. But thye are pretty hard on people. Especially people at a picket and so on.
If they want to break up a demonstration they use teargas. And as far as I know Denmark is the only place besides Israel were they use the hardest form. It can be a very unpleasant experience, but it's of course better than getting a bullet in your head...

cubist
7th April 2004, 11:26
i have been hit by a copper in riot gear (ASP to the head fucking hurts) i was only watching the rucus, i hate violence, i just didn't move out the way, n'mind learnt my lesson (duck) but in the stix where i live a policeman is arare sight

Nordic Rebel
7th April 2004, 17:51
Originally posted by comrade neonate+Apr 6 2004, 02:35 PM--> (comrade neonate @ Apr 6 2004, 02:35 PM)
Nordic [email protected] 6 2004, 10:02 AM

I live in Australia and i don't think police are as bad over here cause there doesn't seem to be much troubel, more trouble with bouncers.

What about the (white) cops who patrol the Aboriginal slums that use pictures of aboriginals as target practice? There was a short piece on them here in Finland when there were the riots over the death of aboriginal boy. If I recall he was something like 8 or 10
Yeah cops in areas around aboriginal communities i have heard can be bad, but im full on the circumstances. They boy was 17 he had missed his summit to court the cops were looking for a bag snatcher seen him and he ran and got impalied. [/b]
Sorry about the messed up facts about the boy. But my main point was about the cops and that piece I recall because I was shocked when I saw it on tv.

dannie
7th April 2004, 19:00
i can remember a certain protest, we were going to get inside a military base, but police showed up there, on guy was just about to jump the fence when some cop grabbed him by his hair, pulled him back over the fence and pushed his head in the ground, the guys sweater was ont he other side of the fence, so he wanted to take it back when the cop released him, he bends over the fence, the cop repeats his actions bruising the guys neck and back

maybe not shooting but it is brutal,

Nickademus
8th April 2004, 01:58
let me see where do i start....

ok ... aboriginal people were (not sure if its still happening) being taken to the outskirts of the cities in the middle of winter without shoes and left to walk back ....some don't make it back except in a body bag

nearly 60 aboriginal women disappeared from teh downtown eastside and were murdered and their bodies put on a pig farm where the bodies and evidence were destroyed and the cops here refused to get involved...had to bring in the rcmp

aboriginal people in general here are treated like shit and picked on .....

Yazman
8th April 2004, 02:07
I live in Australia and up until 2 weeks ago I never used to mind police much.

2 weeks ago I had a few police beat me up, and throw me into a wall. They did this after they had questioned me about somebody I knew (he got into some shit a couple of nights beforehand, I didn't have anything to do with it.) I asked them why they were questioning me, and said I had nothing to do with it, and then the beating commenced.

I hate them more than ever now.

bombeverything
8th April 2004, 07:46
That is good to hear.

The Rotten One
8th April 2004, 14:04
The Portland cop who shot Perez, Jason Sery, has been known to beat and pepperspray witnesses at traffic stops when simply asking what the motorist, almost always a minority, had done. He has not had a white victim. Skinhead scum.

Soul Rebel
8th April 2004, 15:48
I live on the east coast and police brutality seems to happen quite a bit as does racial profiling. Most of the time the cops just get off without any sort of punishment. Sadly, nobody comes out expressing how wrong this is. I cant really think of one happening just recently (i know there was one,but i just cant remember the exact details), but not too long ago cops did shoot down a 16 year old black man.

Guardia Bolivariano
8th April 2004, 16:17
In Venezuela things are getting out of hand oposing ideologies are augmenting police brutality.

Cops are ordered to shoot at protesters and national guard troops in response soldiers shoot back..

The ones who get the worst part are usually civilians.

abigratsass
8th April 2004, 17:41
here in egypt, i think its as bad as it'll ever get !!
the police goes all out in demostrations no matter how peacfull they are....
everyone gets beat up jailed for days without a phone call....
rape in jail is often that its even standard i think you get the picture , police in this country are usually uneducated ,extremly poor no morals no concept of religon and REALLY NEED THE MONEY in oreder to feed there families so they do exactly as ordedred from above(as hight as the president )id think .
shooting dont occur as often as expected yet they do in the pre iraqi war demostrations at least 5 students in alexandria uni . were shoot!!
you get the picture ,right?

Dawood
10th April 2004, 17:11
The coppers in Sweden are pretty soft. They shot a guy in a demonstration back in 2001, and several shots that were fired into a crowd missed.
Beating up demonstrators is part of the jobdescription however. But we usually are able to hit back pretty hard too. Usually the most violent protests are antifascist protest, and the backdrop with that is that they know we will be there, and they respond in force.

The Rotten One
11th April 2004, 06:53
Kind of sick that a guy like Sery still has a badge and last week, despite claims being filed, authorities yanked off and a five year old kid was beaten to death by his Mom's boyfriend. Makes me proud of our fine boys in blue. Fucks.

Eastside Revolt
11th April 2004, 07:48
Pigs, pigs, pigs. Well, I'm not sure if this happens in other cities. but...

The Vancouver police regularly take poor people on "starlight rides". eg: You are a homeless man who may have done something as simple as ignoring a cops' order to move aside. They will kidnap(detain) you, take you to an outlying suburb out of their juristiction, beat you, and leave you there.

I guess it could be worse, it was just something that popped into mind when I opened this thread.

Hitman47
11th April 2004, 22:33
I've seen police brutality in action. Guess where? In a city bus :P

Yea, one day I got on this bus, and there was this poor old man at the back seat. He was like sleeping. Well out of nowhere, a policeman stepped into the bus. He ordered the old man to get up, but he couldn't react.

Soon, he picked him up and threw him right outside of the door. I was like "WOW" why the hell you doing that to the poor old man?

Well I felt kinda of bad for him. :(

Eastside Revolt
12th April 2004, 03:57
Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2004, 01:58 AM
let me see where do i start....

ok ... aboriginal people were (not sure if its still happening) being taken to the outskirts of the cities in the middle of winter without shoes and left to walk back ....some don't make it back except in a body bag

nearly 60 aboriginal women disappeared from teh downtown eastside and were murdered and their bodies put on a pig farm where the bodies and evidence were destroyed and the cops here refused to get involved...had to bring in the rcmp

aboriginal people in general here are treated like shit and picked on .....
aboriginal people in general here are treated like shit and picked on

The really sad thing about that is, alot of native people are rather institutionalised by thier situation. Young native people are often told by their parents that they deserve it.

pandora
12th April 2004, 04:35
Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2004, 07:07 AM
Where are you from? I know in Portland the police recently shot an unarmed man, James Perez, a week or two ago. But you are more than right when you say it's a minority who turns out to be just another accident when the police were to quick to judge and it ends in murder.

The life of the victim ends up meaning little or nothing.
no comment, on location,
Concerning Portland I do know that a young mother named Kendra James was also killed in a routine traffic stop, and that a Chicano man named Jose Meija was also killed for having the wrong change to board a bus. Actually according to Pacifica News 30 people have been shot in Portland unarmed by police in recent years. Does anyone have more info? So they have a real prob. there.
I think it's interesting that the same police chiefs the same names show up in various cities world wide, for example, in LA, Portland, Seattle, Florida, Isreal, etc.
You know you're in for it when the man installs sharp shooters on all the bank towers first day on the job for a community event

dark fairy
12th April 2004, 04:48
that shit's always happening here in L.A. well at least in this part of L.A.... well have always been almost involded in police brutality... im glad i wasn't part of police brutality... i still go protesting... :unsure:

pandora
12th April 2004, 05:03
Originally posted by [email protected] 8 2004, 03:48 PM
I live on the east coast and police brutality seems to happen quite a bit as does racial profiling. Most of the time the cops just get off without any sort of punishment. Sadly, nobody comes out expressing how wrong this is.
Look to a case several years ago involving County Prosecutor Jim Gerrow in New Jersey. After New Jersey Highway Patrol gunned down a van filled with African American men for failure to pull over during a "routine traffic stop" and racial profiling, a huge injunction occured which searched training procedures and police records for racial profiling. It found that was the way training was conducted, through racial profiling.
As a result Prosecutor Jim Gerrow fought the New Jersey State Police in court and WON! :lol:
The State of New Jersey now requires State Highway Patrol to have video cameras in their cars showing their actions.
Police brutality in New Jersey, which was legendary has decreased substantially, [most likely red neck cops are moving south]
Info on this in NYTimes, anyone else with more info on this?