Why we shouldn't be worried about China.

[Salvador Allende]

China, Vietnam and Laos have become more capitalist over the past 30 years and I see that most people here are scared at that factor. We shouldn't be worried because they are becoming more and more of a Social-Democracy and that only proves that they weren't ready for the next step that quickly. That doesn't mean a full collapse of Marxism, it just means the world generally isn't ready for the next step. So calm down and wait until the world progresses.

[TC]

I agree. Now that Wen and Hu are in power China will be better than it was before. They can't have pure socialism while they still need forign direct investment to expand their economies to eventually grow larger then the united states, they need market socialism for a period of time until the geo-political situation favors communism again.

[Yazman]

Socialism in China died when Deng Xiaoping took power.

[Saint-Just]

The successive Chinese governments since the death of Mao had and have no intention of creating a socialist society. The current economic system in China is not temporary.

The Chinese government says that is current system is socialist. Obviously it is not, things have been taken out of public ownership and a rich elite has been created in China.

You could only be correct if there was some kind of secret agreement amongst the leadership that means they could encourage investment now but will completely retract from it unexpectadly in years to come. But this is obviously not true since the Communist Party has many factions within it and at any moment a new faction, marginally more conservative or liberal, yet still bourgeois could gain influence.

In addition, the culture and attitude of the entire nation has been changed. China has a neo-liberal, conservative outlook on society nowadays. It does not care about the poor and unemployed It thinks it will advance through a harsh, competetive individualist environement.

To say that somehow this is all a charade is fantasy. China is more right-wing, oppressive to ideas and repressive towards its population than the U.S. China is not an imperialist nation, but in all other evils it rivals or defeats the U.S. China will become the greatest enemy to socialism in the future years.

[crazy comie]

China has gone down the pan even more than it already was when mao died.

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

The Chinese political system is capitalism with the excuse of Authoritian Communism.

[Red Skyscraper]

It's almost like the Soviet Union, except getting a lot of economic support from the United States.

[crazy comie]

Originally posted by Red Twin [email protected] 8 2004, 10:57 PM
It's almost like the Soviet Union, except getting a lot of economic support from the United States.
yes and it is more capitalist than the ussr.