Drug activism and Che

[Stapler]

Was Che a drug activist? no. So why are there so many drug activists on this board, and elsewhere who use Che as a symbol of their cause. Make no mistake, I'm all for reformation of drug laws, but wasn't Che a Marxist revolutionary and not a Cannabis revolutionary?

[SittingBull47]

yes, but there are alot of people who see Che as a symbol for their cause. I can't tell if you're angry or not about drug activists using Guevara as their mascot (so to speak) . In my opinion he's a universal symbol of revolution and resistance.

[Stapler]

Based on that argument he could be used as a symbol for a neo-nazi revolution.

[seen_che]

In my opinion he's a universal symbol of revolution and resistance.





YEah.....but DONT put word in his mouth
Hi is a symbol for the Socialistik revolution

[Saint-Just]

They don't use Che as a symbol for their cause, do they? Many people here do not hold the same values as Che anyway.

[Hiero]

Most people dont hold the same values as che, that are on this forum.

[Hate Is Art]

Very true neonate, Che's face is often just plastered on things for profitability.
Sad but true.

[Essential Insignificance]

Was Che a drug activist?

Back to the original question, I cannot say for certainty, as I have not examined it any were clearly…but I believe that it is "safe" to state that Che most properly would have know quandary with cannabis… though he was absolutely not an "drug activist".

[SittingBull47]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2004, 10:15 PM
Based on that argument he could be used as a symbol for a neo-nazi revolution.
within reason, of course.

I seem to assume that the people would be able to tell the difference between a socialist left wing hero and a mascot for a "neo-nazi revolution". Guess I shouldn&#39;t assume... <_<

[che's long lost daughter]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2004, 10:04 PM
Was Che a drug activist? no. So why are there so many drug activists on this board, and elsewhere who use Che as a symbol of their cause. Make no mistake, I&#39;m all for reformation of drug laws, but wasn&#39;t Che a Marxist revolutionary and not a Cannabis revolutionary?
I do not see anything corollary about Che and drug activism. If there may be drug activists here, I am sure that they are not using Che as a symbol for their cause. Che may be used as a symbol for other causes which are revolutionary in nature but maybe, not for drug activism. However, many people use Che&#39;s image for all the wrong reasons, to capitalize in it. It&#39;s pretty ironic thinking that Che fought against capitalism but now his image is being capitalized on. Yes, Luke it&#39;s sad but it&#39;s true. :(

[mysticofthewest]

The fact that they use che thusly upsets me ive seen potheads wearing a Che shirt that said "Smoke the Revolution You Betraed me Castro" It make me very angry

[Kurai Tsuki]

It disturbs me that people can turn drug addiction and dependency into a revolutionary cause. Che was in favour of overthrowing dictatorships, especially those installed and funded by the U.S. I don’t recall anything about him going out of his way to talk about why marijuana should be legalized and how psychoactive drugs can free your mind.

[Eastside Revolt]

Just because I smoke lots of weed, doesn&#39;t mean that if a revolution were to come I couldn&#39;t put down the blunt along with all the other luxuries.

As far as the marketting of his image: Che would agree that free speech hardly exists even in the west. So if you were to tell him that the capitalists were spreading knowledge of his existence, making money or not, he would probably laugh andhave been generally pleased about the irony of it.

[Rasta Sapian]

confusion? I don&#39;t think so&#33; :huh:

Che is the shit&#33;

I am high, and like to smoke weed :D

what the fucks the problem? :blink:

your the problem, so go fuck off and smoke a joint

[SittingBull47]

Rasta Sapien that&#39;s probably the smartest thing i heard all day. :)

[Rasta Sapian]

damm strait brother&#33;

[sinadwen]

I think many people see Che as a symbol for a revolution, whatever that may be. They dont necessarily believe in what he did, but use his image as a way to remember his struggles for a cause. As for the whole: "Most people dont hold the same values as che, that are on this forum." If people really held the exact same values as Che did they would not be visiting a webpage, they would probably be out trying to make a difference in this country. Either that or in another country. DO you all honestly have exactly the same values che did? I apologize if I&#39;m sounding harsh and against Che, when in reality I think he was a truely great person. I only wish i could do many of the things he set out to do, it takes a great person to devote themselves to a cause such as his.

[DaCuBaN]

I only wish i could do many of the things he set out to do, it takes a great person to devote themselves to a cause such as his

He was just another man, like any other. Your only hurdle to being as great as Ché? The chains of the mind.


It disturbs me that people can turn drug addiction and dependency into a revolutionary cause

Most tokers aren&#39;t &#39;addicted&#39; anymore than others are to luxury items like milk chocolate. It&#39;s not like tobacco, alcohol or coffee where there is an active addictive &#39;ingredient&#39; - any addiction to it is purely psychological - and ANY substance can be psychologically addictive. Hell, socialism could be argued as &#39;psychologically addictive&#39; :lol:

I think the reason Ché has been iconised in the weed legalisation campaign simply because they see their struggle against their relative states in line with his struggle against imperialism. Also most pot activists and Ché both believe(d) that their respective products should be exported to the whole world because they are so damm great :D

There&#39;s no direct link between Ernesto and weed that I know of... maybe he did enjoy a reefer before bed, I don&#39;t know. But he was an activist for freedom from slavery for the people of Cuba and otherwise, and that is how many &#39;revolutionary smokers&#39; see the current prohibition of their substance - as an oppression from the imperialists. I&#39;m staying on the fence to be honest ;)

[Hiero]

Originally posted by Rasta [email protected] 10 2004, 03:41 AM
confusion? I don&#39;t think so&#33; :huh:

Che is the shit&#33;

I am high, and like to smoke weed :D

what the fucks the problem? :blink:

your the problem, so go fuck off and smoke a joint
Confused yes you are, your high right so why should we take anything you say valid?

Another reason why to support drug control.

[DaCuBaN]

Originally posted by [email protected] 19 2004, 10:49 AM

I only wish i could do many of the things he set out to do, it takes a great person to devote themselves to a cause such as his

He was just another man, like any other. Your only hurdle to being as great as Ché? The chains of the mind.


It disturbs me that people can turn drug addiction and dependency into a revolutionary cause

Most tokers aren&#39;t &#39;addicted&#39; anymore than others are to luxury items like milk chocolate. It&#39;s not like tobacco, alcohol or coffee where there is an active addictive &#39;ingredient&#39; - any addiction to it is purely psychological - and ANY substance can be psychologically addictive. Hell, socialism could be argued as &#39;psychologically addictive&#39; :lol:

I think the reason Ché has been iconised in the weed legalisation campaign simply because they see their struggle against their relative states in line with his struggle against imperialism. Also most pot activists and Ché both believe(d) that their respective products should be exported to the whole world because they are so damm great :D

There&#39;s no direct link between Ernesto and weed that I know of... maybe he did enjoy a reefer before bed, I don&#39;t know. But he was an activist for freedom from slavery for the people of Cuba and otherwise, and that is how many &#39;revolutionary smokers&#39; see the current prohibition of their substance - as an oppression from the imperialists. I&#39;m staying on the fence to be honest ;)
I was high when I posted that. Same rules apply?

[Rasta Sapian]

Originally posted by comrade neonate+Apr 19 2004, 02:39 PM--> (comrade neonate @ Apr 19 2004, 02:39 PM)
Rasta [email protected] 10 2004, 03:41 AM
confusion? I don&#39;t think so&#33; :huh:

Che is the shit&#33;

I am high, and like to smoke weed :D

what the fucks the problem? :blink:

your the problem, so go fuck off and smoke a joint
Confused yes you are, your high right so why should we take anything you say valid?

Another reason why to support drug control. [/b]
I am sober right now, and still back up my previous words, actually i was more drunk that high @ the time to begin with, but anyway.......

Whats the problem?

[Lefty]

I nominate Rasta Sapien for the best poster on Che lives. That picture is the shit. I&#39;m high right now, too. Che&#39;s face is used for drug activism because people associate him with revolution, and drug activists want a revolution as far as drug laws go. I don&#39;t see what the problem is, seeing as Che would&#39;ve been down with anything that changed the system to make it better for the people, right?