Iraqi Protesters Killed

[Intifada]

from aljazeera


Spanish occupation soldiers have shot dead at least 20 Iraqi demonstrators and wounded more than 100 others in protests supporting Shia cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.

The toll is expected to rise, reported Aljazeera's correspondent Muhammad al-Sharif on Sunday.

Some 15,000 of al-Sadr's supporters staged a peaceful protest on Sunday heading towards the Spanish headquarters in Najaf, reported al-Sharif.

Spanish troops and helicopters opened fire randomly at the protesters, he added. But some witnesses said demonstrators threw stones at military vehicles.

Occupation forces also fired at journalists at the scene, including Aljazeera's crew, injuring al-Sharif.

Al-Sadr's office bureau has issued a statement calling on supporters to end protests and declare jihad to take up arms against occupation forces, reported Aljazeera.

Iraqi police fired shots at pro-al-Sadr demonstrations in central Baghdad, leaving at least two people injured, reported Aljazeera correspondent Abd al-Adhem Muhammad. Protesters were marching towards a police headquarters in Saadun Street.

There have been daily protests for the past week over the occupation's suspension of the al-Hawza newspaper, a pro-al-Sadr publication which the US occupation authorities said was inciting violence.

Mosques linked to al-Sadr had earlier called for a general strike. Al-Sadr is a fierce opponent of the occupation and US-appointed Iraqi Governing Council. His support is mainly among impoverished Iraqis living in al-Sadr city in Baghdad, formerly known as Saddam City.

[God of Imperia]

Don't believe everything you read ... There are probably some things true, but I think it is a bit exagerated ...

[Intifada]

yahoo has also reported this incident.

[God of Imperia]

It don't want to be too sarcastic, but aren't there more Iraqi's killed by Iraqi's with all those bombs?

[Intifada]

It don't want to be too sarcastic, but aren't there more Iraqi's killed by Iraqi's with all those bombs?

no 10000 iraqis were killed by coalition forces.

[God of Imperia]

All during peaceful protests?

[Intifada]

i am talking about the whole conflict.

the iraqis with bombs have killed lots of innocent iraqis, but what has that got to do with this?

[God of Imperia]

You blaming the coalition forces for killing innocent Iraqi's, don't just stop there, blame some of the Iraqi's too for violence mostly comes from to sides. Don't get me wrong, I believe that all those coalition forces should get the hell out of there, but all those bombings aren't making things easyier ... Would those guys stop if all the cf are gone? I doubt it, they want to get in control, they don't want a free Iraq, they want that as much as Bush wants it ... I believe the UN should take control and make it possible for a new Iraqi government to actually be a government.

[Intifada]

You blaming the coalition forces for killing innocent Iraqi's, don't just stop there, blame some of the Iraqi's too for violence mostly comes from to sides.

why is there so many resistance groups in iraq at the moment?

because of the u$ led occupation. therefore it is a consequence of this war. of course the killing of innocent iraqis is wrong, but these resistance groups are fighting against an imperialist coalition which has invaded and occupied their country.

the point of this thread was to show that even now, protesters are killed.

[Hoppe]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2004, 01:56 PM

why is there so many resistance groups in iraq at the moment?

because of the u$ led occupation. therefore it is a consequence of this war. of course the killing of innocent iraqis is wrong, but these resistance groups are fighting against an imperialist coalition which has invaded and occupied their country.

the point of this thread was to show that even now, protesters are killed.
Pfff, how naieve. These groups are either members from the Ba'aath-party or fundamentals who want to establish a new islamic state like Afghanistan under the Taliban. They are certainly not your average joe iraqi who wants to live a quiet life in peace.

[Robert Edward Lee]

why is there so many resistance groups in iraq at the moment?

There is a possible power vacuum that may emerge when the coalition withdraws. These groups simply see the potential that they may be able to fill that vacuum, nothing more.

Coalition forces kill 10,000 eh? only a couple of million short of Saddam's tally.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2004, 04:30 PM
Pfff, how naieve. These groups are either members from the Ba'aath-party or fundamentals who want to establish a new islamic state like Afghanistan under the Taliban. They are certainly not your average joe iraqi who wants to live a quiet life in peace.
An Islamic state like American ally Kuwait? Which also happens to be a monarchy much like Saudi Arabia, also an American ally.

There are dozens of militias in Iraq, most representing some religious faction or another, obviously. And to say they're all fighting for the same Ba'athist leadership is ridiculously ignorant.

Whichever facist military leader America decides to replace Saddam with will also be Islamic. Not to mention taht he'll endlessly cater to American coprorations while they enslave the people of Iraq.

I hope Iraqis never stop resistance against US occupation untill they achieve a progressive socialist leadership.

[MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr]

People killed by socialism/communism: million billion trillion infinities! We can't show you the Nazi style death camps, but trust us, they're all dead, unless you can prove otherwise! Rah rah sisboom bah capitalism horray!

Come, just because someone says a million people died doesn't mean it happened. Besides, what does it matter? Would you support Hitler if he was a pacifist?

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

Originally posted by God of [email protected] 4 2004, 01:52 PM
You blaming the coalition forces for killing innocent Iraqi's, don't just stop there, blame some of the Iraqi's too for violence mostly comes from to sides. Don't get me wrong, I believe that all those coalition forces should get the hell out of there, but all those bombings aren't making things easyier ... Would those guys stop if all the cf are gone? I doubt it, they want to get in control, they don't want a free Iraq, they want that as much as Bush wants it ... I believe the UN should take control and make it possible for a new Iraqi government to actually be a government.
It seems to me that those bombings are against the Coalition Forces and allies and that those bombings would stop if they are targetless (The Coalition Forces leaving).

Furthermore, don't you think that people express their opinion by protesting and really really want the CF out. Maybe the Iraqi people don't feel that free at all.

-Keep asking

[Hoppe]

Originally posted by [email protected] 4 2004, 10:44 PM
An Islamic state like American ally Kuwait? Which also happens to be a monarchy much like Saudi Arabia, also an American ally.

There are dozens of militias in Iraq, most representing some religious faction or another, obviously. And to say they're all fighting for the same Ba'athist leadership is ridiculously ignorant.

Whichever facist military leader America decides to replace Saddam with will also be Islamic. Not to mention taht he'll endlessly cater to American coprorations while they enslave the people of Iraq.

Do you only read what you want to read? Violence in the Islamic world is not only directed at the US, or Western countries, but also to other muslim groups.

Maybe now the US companies get a piece of the pie, instead of your allies against the war France and Germany. :rolleyes:


I hope Iraqis never stop resistance against US occupation untill they achieve a progressive socialist leadership.

:lol: I needed a good laugh. Your view is a bit "optimistic" since you said yourself that there are to much factions in Iraq (mostly fighting against eachother).

[Loknar]

wait until we see the interment camps.

[Osman Ghazi]

They are certainly not your average joe iraqi who wants to live a quiet life in peace.

You know joe? How is he anyway? Seriously though, if you knew even ONE Iraqi, I would shit my pants, no joke. Don't you try to tell me what 'your average joe iraqi' wants.

Besides, it won't be anything like Taliban Afghanistan, it will be more like Iran. They are mostly Shiites, after all.

Also, are Kurds Sunni?

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Do you only read what you want to read? Violence in the Islamic world is not only directed at the US, or Western countries, but also to other muslim groups.

I know that.
When did I imply otherwise?

A large part of them are, however.
Most Muslim factions have decelared jihad against Zionism and US imperialism.

A jihad, by the way, is simply a war against evil.
It has nothing to do with the violent genocide Americans make it out to seem.
Driving out corporate oppression is a perfectly justifiable cause.


Maybe now the US companies get a piece of the pie, instead of your allies against the war France and Germany.


My allies?!
Hardly.


I needed a good laugh. Your view is a bit "optimistic" since you said yourself that there are to much factions in Iraq (mostly fighting against eachother). [

Yeah, it's pretty optimistic.
But a good goal nonetheless.

[LuZhiming]

Originally posted by Osman [email protected] 6 2004, 02:44 AM
You know joe? How is he anyway? Seriously though, if you knew even ONE Iraqi, I would shit my pants, no joke. Don't you try to tell me what 'your average joe iraqi' wants.

Besides, it won't be anything like Taliban Afghanistan, it will be more like Iran. They are mostly Shiites, after all.

Also, are Kurds Sunni?
Most Kurds are Shiites.


EDIT: Nevermind my claim, that's what happens when you use Newsweek as a valid source. :rolleyes:

[Hoppe]

You know joe? How is he anyway? Seriously though, if you knew even ONE Iraqi, I would shit my pants, no joke. Don't you try to tell me what 'your average joe iraqi' wants.


I have been in that region a few times, well ok Syria. But they have many escaped Iraqi's. And I know many in the Netherlands who have escaped but still have many relatives living in the south of Iraq. So yeah, I know a bit.


Also, are Kurds Sunni?

The majority is. A large minority are Alevite and then you have a bunch of other groups. All are quite hostile to eachother.


A jihad, by the way, is simply a war against evil.
It has nothing to do with the violent genocide Americans make it out to seem.
Driving out corporate oppression is a perfectly justifiable cause.

I know what a Jihad is and it has certainly nothing to do with drving out corporate oppression or zionism or imperialism. Jihad is an inner battle, all the fundamentalists have got it wrong. Then again most of them are illiterate people so they'll believe anything an imam tells them. I may expect better from you.

[Loknar]

ihatebush:


aljazerra in english means "Bullshit".

[Intifada]

faux news is no better. ;)

[MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2004, 08:28 PM
wait until we see the interment camps.
Capitalist Imperial will be right there cheering them on.