Iraq...

[commieboy]

Okay...i think that we can all say that the U.S. had no business in Iraq...
And that Bush is a complete scumbag for lying to the country and the world

But can we agree that Iraq needed change, what made the Ba'athists any better than batista?

What should've been done to get Saddam Hussein out of power?

Who should've done it, how should it have been done?

I'd like to hear your opinions..

[EddieLokes]

I believe there were other methods of taking action, but due to the president we have, his gut feeling was enough to attack, plus the fact that Saddam had attempted to kill bush sr.

We should of let it be, let them live how ever they want to live, and have them come to us if they need any help, we shouldn't as a nation butt in into other nations problems. Specially one that never really existed, cough**nuclear bombs**cough.

Yeah, i hate bush and never really thought he would do anything good for our country

So plainly F*ck Bush! :che:

[redstar2000]

What should've been done to get Saddam Hussein out of power?

You need to translate this question into Arabic and post it on an Iraqi message board.

The opinions of Americans, the British, etc. are irrelevant.

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[Roses in the Hospital]

It can't be denied that Saddam was a repressive dictator with a lot of blood on his hands and I think it's our duty to what we can to help those who need it. The argument that we shouldn't have got involved because he wasn't a direct threat to us is just small minded and selfish.
However the real reason, for the US at least, was clearey oil. My hope was that if Iraq could be freed in the process then it would have been worth it. But Bush and Blair should have spent more time with the UN and should have had a provisional Government of Iraqi exiles ready to take over almost instantaneously with UN peacekeeping support, rather than occupying the country so as to try and keep the Iraqi general poulation on side.
Sadly however the operation degenerated into the shambles it is now...

[redstar2000]

...and I think it's our duty to what we can to help those who need it.

"Our"? Who is "our" in this context?

If you're speaking here of the governments of the United States and the United Kingdom, then your comments make no sense.

Those bastards are not in the business of "helping people"...except for themselves, of course.

Rid yourself of the illusion that the United States and its lackeys ever invade any country "for good reason".

That has never happened.

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[Roses in the Hospital]

'Our' in this sense was intended to mean the collective conscience of the public of the more fortunate countries of (mainly) the West...
I'm under no illusion about the intentions of the US. As I said the war was clearly about oil, I just hopped the repressed people of Iraq could be freed as a consequence of the Us's greed...

[redstar2000]

I just hoped the repressed people of Iraq could be freed as a consequence of the US's greed...

In which case it should have been obvious to you that the U.S. would replace one tyrant by another...something they've always done whenever possible.

What they seem to be looking for now is "Mullah-Lite" -- a self-styled "Islamic state" run by reliable quislings.

You could say "it's Mullah-time". :lol:

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