One more point for the good guys.

[lucid]

I hope this sheep fucker is burning in hell.

Time to meet your maker! (http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/03/21/yassin/index.html)

[Intifada]

this is nothing more than an attack on any hope for peace.

dont cry when the palestinian militants fight back.

way to go mr sharon, way to go.

[lucid]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 05:10 PM
this is nothing more than an attack on any hope for peace.

dont cry when the palestinian militants fight back.

way to go mr sharon, way to go.
You really are fucked in the head if you think that animal was for peace. Let the militants fight back. They will keep being killed until it stops.

[Intifada]

You really are fucked in the head if you think that animal was for peace.

and you are REALLY REALLY fucked up in the head if you think the assassination was good news and that sharon is a man of peace.

[el_profe]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 05:26 PM

You really are fucked in the head if you think that animal was for peace.

and you are REALLY REALLY fucked up in the head if you think the assassination was good news and that sharon is a man of peace.
It was good news, the killing of a terrorist is always good news.

[Intifada]

It was good news, the killing of a terrorist is always good news.

give me proof that he was a "terrorist".

[Hoppe]

Though I think the assassination was a very bad idea, Hamas has never wanted peace. Every time the both sides wanted to restart the peace process a crazy palestine blew himself up. The only thing they care about is throwing all Jews back in the sea.

[Vinny Rafarino]

Originally posted by lucid+Mar 22 2004, 05:16 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lucid @ Mar 22 2004, 05:16 PM)
[email protected] 22 2004, 05:10 PM
this is nothing more than an attack on any hope for peace.

dont cry when the palestinian militants fight back.

way to go mr sharon, way to go.
You really are fucked in the head if you think that animal was for peace. Let the militants fight back. They will keep being killed until it stops. [/b]
Hmmm. For a boy who screams out;



I hope this sheep fucker is burning in hell.

Time to meet your maker&#33;



Calling ANYONE an "animal that is against peace" seems so absurd it actually made me giggle like a school boy.


I&#39;m keeping this thread open long enough to see how many more times these kids can embarrass themselves.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 11:59 AM
Though I think the assassination was a very bad idea, Hamas has never wanted peace. Every time the both sides wanted to restart the peace process a crazy palestine blew himself up. The only thing they care about is throwing all Jews back in the sea.
You, sir, are an intelectual giant&#33; :lol: [/sarcasm]

Do you realize the idiocy of what you&#39;ve written?

Throwing all the Jews back in the sea??

That&#39;s where they came from, eh? :lol:

Jesus Christ, you crack me up.

Because they want political control of their homeland, they must be anti-semetic radicals, right? <_<

[el_profe]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 05:36 PM

It was good news, the killing of a terrorist is always good news.

give me proof that he was a "terrorist".
:rolleyes: No, you go look for the proof. He has many time called for jihad against the jews, he encourages suicide bombers, what more proof do you need. And you say you dont support terrorist.. :lol: :lol: LOL, he is co-founder of hamas what other proof do you need. You just support there actions so you dont want to say he is a terrorist.

Do you want proof that the taliban where oppressing women? do you want proof al-queda is a terrorist group?

[Intifada]

He has many time called for jihad against the jews,

he has called for resistance against israeli oppressors. whats wrong with that?


And you say you dont support terrorist

you support bu&#036;h and sharon dont you?


he is co-founder of hamas what other proof do you need.

has he ever condoned the killing of innocent people? has he ever taken part in the killing of innocent people?

[lucid]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 09:01 PM
he has called for resistance against israeli oppressors. whats wrong with that?

So you concider women and children getting blow up in buses and cafes a acceptable for of resistance?

At least the US and Isreal TRY to limit casualties to civilians. Both have spent millions on advanced weapons that can be used for tactical strikes instead of just carpet bombing. Your friends Mohamed Mohamed Abu Bin Mohamed Ladin just straps on a dynomite vest and runs into a crowd.

[Intifada]

So you concider women and children getting blow up in buses and cafes a acceptable for of resistance?

nope. do you call demolishing palestinian homes, killing pregnant women at checkpoints and children on bicycles an acceptable method of "defence"?


At least the US and Isreal TRY to limit casualties to civilians.

so that is why the u&#036; uses cluster bombs and leaves DU in iraq?

so that is why israel launches missiles into palestinian streets?

[Hoppe]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 08:15 PM
You, sir, are an intelectual giant&#33; :lol: [/sarcasm]

Do you realize the idiocy of what you&#39;ve written?

Throwing all the Jews back in the sea??

That&#39;s where they came from, eh? :lol:

Jesus Christ, you crack me up.

Because they want political control of their homeland, they must be anti-semetic radicals, right? <_<
No it&#39;s not idiotic. The only goal of Hamas is to exterminate all the Israelis and establish a palestinian state. That was written down when the movement was formed. Much of islamic fundamentalism is based on anti-semitism, most fundamentalist have a different view of history as we have.

But surely you knew all knew all this, you beacon of infinite wisdom.

[Intifada]

The only goal of Hamas is to exterminate all the Israelis and establish a palestinian state.

many zionists also believe in "exterminating" palestinians from the middle east.

[Xvall]

The Israelis are just as territory hungry as the Palistinians. Hell, they&#39;re probably more territory hungry than the Palistinians. Wheras the Palistinians only want control over that region, Zionists called for control over Israel, as well as other territories.

http://www.balkanunity.org/mideast/english/zionism/eretz.gif

In his Complete Diaries, Vol II, Page 711, Theodor Herzl, the founder of Zionism, states that the area of the &#39;Jewish&#39; state stretches: "From the Brook of Egypt to the Euphrates."

This was exemplified when Rabbi Fischmann, member of the Jewish Agency for Palestine, declared in his testimony to the U.N. Special Committee of Enquiry on July 9, 1947: "The Promised Land extends from the River of Egypt to the Euphrates. It includes parts of Syria and Lebanon."

But that&#39;s all beside the point. As far as this is conscerned, you didn&#39;t have much of a victory. Sheik Ahmed Yassin was just a spiritual figure. He didn&#39;t hold any power whatsoever. This would be like assassinating the Pope to get back at the Italian government. You aren&#39;t going to do much other than piss everyone off and make things worse than they already are.

[Hoppe]

Originally posted by [email protected] 22 2004, 09:39 PM
many zionists also believe in "exterminating" palestinians from the middle east.
That&#39;s just as bad, though I have never heard any Isreali say that the palestinians should be literally exterminated, except maybe some sick colonist.

[Lefty]

The guy was a bastard that called for the killing of innocent Israelis. Innocent people died because of him. It was still a bad idea to kill him, though. More innocent people will die now and peace is still farther away. Stop the killing.

[John Galt]

Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2004, 12:54 AM
The guy was a bastard that called for the killing of innocent Israelis. Innocent people died because of him. It was still a bad idea to kill him, though. More innocent people will die now and peace is still farther away. Stop the killing.
Ok, that guy was a terrorist too.

[Urban Rubble]

IhateBush, your habit of countering any argument with "Well America did this _____" is really fucking annoying. Everytime someone brings up an attrocity committed by a leftist supported group you counter it with something the U.S has done wrong. That is a horrible way to debate and shows that you have no knowledge to back anything up.

You won&#39;t see me crying about another terrorist piece of shit rotting in the ground. What I do find troublesome is the fact that the Israeli government knows damned well that this will only encourage more attacks on their civilians. They don&#39;t really care because it will be innocent Israelis dying, not them. I don&#39;t know the solution, but I do know that killing this guy will probably make things much worse. But as I said, I don&#39;t know the answer. The problem has become so large and confusing that I can&#39;t even begin to say what the solution is.

[Intifada]

That&#39;s just as bad, though I have never heard any Isreali say that the palestinians should be literally exterminated, except maybe some sick colonist.

ask uzi cohen or moledet what they think ahould be done to the palestinians.


IhateBush, your habit of countering any argument with "Well America did this _____" is really fucking annoying.

UR the only time i mentioned america was when lucid said


At least the US and Isreal TRY to limit casualties to civilians

i then referred to the u&#036;a&#39;s use of cluster bombs and DU.

at least read all the posts before you speak crap.

[PenguTheMightyPenguin]

It&#39;s funny that the only country that didnt condem the attack was america. Fucken pisses me off

[Devil&#39;s Advocate]

ihatebush:

Before i give you theevidence of Yassin&#39;s involvement in terrorist activity, i&#39;ll have to ask you, how come you call the Israeli government terrorist, when they don&#39;t intentionally target civilians, while Palestinian terrorist organization who do attack civilians on purpose are called "Militants"?

Anyway:

"He inspired them to offer up their lives, promising that suicide bombers who were willing to die for the sake of the dignity of Palestinians and in the service of a longer-term victory would achieve martyrdom."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_ea...ast/1695470.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1695470.stm)

Nevermind that he was arrested by Israel in the 80&#39;s for smuggling weapong in order to carry terrorist actions.

If anyone really wants to know what Hamas is all about. read their charter (http://www.palestinecenter.org/cpap/documents/charter.html).

I particularly enjoyed Article Seven, The Universality of the Hamas:

"The prophet, prayer and peace be upon him, said: The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews (and kill them); until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: O Muslim&#33; there is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him&#33; This will not apply to the Gharqad, which is a Jewish tree (cited by Bukhari and Muslim)."

Uzi Cohen is just an idiot. As for Moledet, they don&#39;t wish to exterminate the Palestinians. Why the hope for is that in some magical way the Palestinian will just move to another place. They basically think that somehow they can just make the entire population of Palestine to move to another without any use of force. I don&#39;t agree with their views at all, but you were saying was simply inaccurate.

Drake Dracoly:

Who originally drew that map? The Israeli government ? Some Zionist organization? Herzl was not the founder of Zionism. Zionism means the wishes of the Jewish people to come back to the land where their ancestors lived, and does not even necessarily imply the formation of a Jewish state in Israel or anywhere else. Zionism existed long before Herzel. What could be said is that political Zionism began with Herzl. However, that does not mean that all Zionists agree with him. What you need to realize is that Zionists are not clones of each other, and inside the Zionist movement there are many and different diverse views. There are even Zionists with Socialist beliefs(If i am not mistaken the Jews who came to Israel from Europe in). So just because he said something does not mean all Zionist agree with him.

About that quote form Rabbi Fischmann, i am afraid it has been taken out of context, simply because the idea that the Israel, which only 600,000 jews lived in at that time, would start a campaign to conquer all that land and defeat millions of Arabs is totally absurd.

[Intifada]

how come you call the Israeli government terrorist, when they don&#39;t intentionally target civilians,

they dont taget innocent civilians? which militant are they attacking in the case of fatima abed-rabo?

in the early hours of the morning, a young expectant mother called Fatima Abed-Rabo awoke with intense labour pains. She and her husband Nasser set out in a friend&#39;s car for the hospital in Bethlehem, in Israeli occupied Palestine.

The couple had been trying for a second child for three years and had undergone fertility treatment. “The news of the pregnancy had made us so happy”, said Nasser, “that we celebrated by replacing the tin sheeting on our home with a concrete roof.”

The couple were stopped at the Israeli military roadblock just outside their village. The soldiers turned them back, even though Fatima was now haemorrhaging. They got a taxi, hoping that would be allowed through. Again, they were turned back. No explanation was given; one soldier mimicked Fatima&#39;s moans.

Fatima gave birth to her baby in the taxi. She remembers the soldiers hurling her husband&#39;s ID into the blood on the floor.

“We cut the umbilical cord with a razor blade”, she said. “My husband wrapped the tiny boy in his jacket, and eventually one of his relatives found a back route.” Barely 1.3 kilograms in weight, blue and in a critical condition, the baby was dead by the time they arrived at the hospital.

from john pilger&#39;s palestine is still the issue.


Uzi Cohen is just an idiot.

exactly. there are idiots on both sides.


As for Moledet, they don&#39;t wish to exterminate the Palestinians.

they dont want palestinians in "their" land. they are trying to encourage them to leave.

they support "population transfer" which is a euphemism for ethnic cleansing.

i found the following interesting


Moledet opposes the establishment of a Palestinian state west to the Jordan River, in addition to the Jordanian Palestinian state, which already exists east of the Jordan River. Moledet opposes any plan that will bring about the handing over of any land to any other sovereignty. It strongly supports Jewish settlement of Judea Samaria and Gaza. Moledet is doing everything in its power to thwart plans to divide Jerusalem, by creating a continuous Jewish presence in historic (east) Jerusalem.


from www.molodet.org (http://www.moledet.org.il/english/moledet.html)

[Xvall]

Who originally drew that map? The Israeli government ? Some Zionist organization? Herzl was not the founder of Zionism. Zionism means the wishes of the Jewish people to come back to the land where their ancestors lived, and does not even necessarily imply the formation of a Jewish state in Israel or anywhere else. Zionism existed long before Herzel. What could be said is that political Zionism began with Herzl. However, that does not mean that all Zionists agree with him. What you need to realize is that Zionists are not clones of each other, and inside the Zionist movement there are many and different diverse views. There are even Zionists with Socialist beliefs(If i am not mistaken the Jews who came to Israel from Europe in). So just because he said something does not mean all Zionist agree with him.

This is understandable. I am not implying that all Zionists are angry, xenophobes who want to expell all of the foreigners from their lands. I&#39;m simply pointing out that like the Palestinians, certain people of the demographic poplation can be the host of exterior veiws. This was mainly to combat statements like, "The Palestineans hate (xxxx)" when a single person or small group commits a crime.

[Lefty]

What Urban Rubble said. I won&#39;t cry for another dead terrorist fuck, but innocent people will die for this and that just ain&#39;t cool.