Might Spain Go Socialist

[RebeldePorLaPAZ]

Ok, this really sucks because I have been reading what was going on in Spain on BBC.com and they really seem to point out threw the articles and the videos of the people demonstrating that the current political party might not win this election. Ok, that doesn’t suck, but what does is that I’m so happy that the socialist might win and I want to talk to people about it but nobody cares because everybody that is online is one of my cappie friends and I’m home alone so there isn’t anybody to talk to. But its cool because when you need commies to talk to there is always Che-Lives.

Anyways, I’m reading and then click on one of those photo gallery’s they have and they had one with people that just came out of the voting booth and had something that they said like who they voted for and why or something like that. So than I’m looking at it and I think it was 4 out of the 8 pictures had somebody that voted for the socialist party. Now I’m thinking to myself, I just read a whole lot about the socialist party having a chance, oh shit wait. Then I just stood there with my head down and it hit me. What if the socialists win this election? They have a kick ass chance to do so. I mean look at this the people are mad at the government because they blamed it on ETA and now al-Qaeda says it was them.

Here is the link. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3510142.stm


Here is what one of the people said.

I voted for the Socialists.

I had already decided but this week has made my decision more clear.

There has been a manipulation of information by the government and I don't think they will get an absolute majority - a little punishment from the people.

People have been horrified by the attacks.

What do you people think about it?

I’m just crossing my fingers and hoping that they win.

--Paz

[Intifada]

arent the socialists the second biggest party in spain?

anyway i hope they win. :)

[RebeldePorLaPAZ]

Yeah they are and thats why I'm going crazy about it.

:P :D :P :D

[monkeydust]

We can always hope, however the events that have unfolded in Spain this week will probably be detrimental to the Socialist parties chances, not beneficial.

A catalonian Socialist party memeber, quite recently was discovered to have made secret deals with Eta in France, negotiating a partial ceasefire. Whilst obviously his intentions were good, the Socialists' links with Eta aren't going to get them support after an event which most Spaniards believe Eta caused.

[BOZG]

What exactly are the policies of the Spanish Socialist Party? Just because they have socialist in their name it means nothing. Look at the SP in France.

[Wenty]

and the labour party in the UK. For some reason they call themselves 'democratic socialists' on their website. Made me chuckle.

[Intifada]

What exactly are the policies of the Spanish Socialist Party? Just because they have socialist in their name it means nothing. Look at the SP in France.

they are led by this guy:

here (http://www.spainview.com/biog21.html)

José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero was elected as secretary general of the PSOE at the party's 35th convention in July, 2000. His appointment was seen to symbolize the "Generation Next" of the historical Spanish socialist party, which following charismatic former premier Felipe González's resignation as party boss in 1997 was suffering an accute image and leadership problem.

Born in the city of Valladolid on August 4, 1960, Rodriguez Zapatero studied Law, but - aside from a stint as a law teacher - has devoted his entire life to politics, within the Spanish socialist party. From a family with left-wing ideas (his grandfather was a Republican captain who was executed by the Nationalists at the start of the Spanish Civil War in 1936), he first became fascinated with politics when he attended his first political rally in Gijón (Asturias) in 1977, when Spain was about to hold its first democratic elections following the death of dictator Franco. The speaker was a young Felipe González, and Rodriguez Zapatero was mesmerized. The following year, he joined the socialist party.

In 1982, he headed the socialist youth organization in his home province of León (north-western Spain). In 1986, he became the youngest member of parliament in Spain when he won a seat representing the province. In 1988 he was elected to head the regional chapter of the socialist party in León, and in 1997 he was appointed to the Federal Executive Committee, the party's governing body.

Ideologically, Rodríguez Zapatero is a moderate, closer to social democracy than socialism. His right-hand-man is the Galician member of parliament, José Blanco.

Rodriguez Zapatero married in 1990, and has two daughters. His hobbies are jogging and trout fishing.

[RebeldePorLaPAZ]

I was just watching the news, (Fox News) and they gave an update on the current poll results. It seems that the Popular Party has 43 % and the Socialist Party has 53%.


--Paz

ahh, it feels good to be back for a while ;)

[Intifada]

apparently colin powell has already said something to the socialists about iraq. José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero wants to pull troops out.

[Misodoctakleidist]

Some exit polls are putting the socialists in front and some are putting the PP in front. Whoever wins, it seems inevitable that they wont recieve a majority and will have to form a coallition government with other parties. The leader of the socialist party says he'll only try to form a government if they get more votes than the PP.

[RebeldePorLaPAZ]

BBC

Spain's ruling Popular Party has admitted an unexpected defeat in the country's general election with almost all the votes counted.

The Socialists won 43% of the vote while the centre-right Popular Party has garnered 38%, reports say.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3511280.stm

Well, who wants to bring out the bacardi? Its time to party my friends. :D

--Paz

[Soul Rebel]

yeah, the PSOE has won, according to my parents. i came home right after work to find out and they let me know the very wonderful news. im so happy. if im going back in june, i want to live with the PSOE, not the PP.

so, in celebration i hold up my Estrella de Galicia (fabulous beer).... :D

[Solace]

Put "socialist" in your name and everyone gets excited.

This party already took power back in the 80’s. They made Spain enter in NATO, backed the U$A during the Gulf War and grossly applied capitalist economic reforms.

Way to go, bro'.

Also, it might be important to mention that Zapatero is a great admirer of Gonzalez.

[Soul Rebel]

better than living with the pp. rather live with the psoe, than pp. also rather have the IU than either of the other two, but that aint ever going to happen.

[shyguywannadie]

The socialists are set to win yes, what I want to know though is when the socialists take charge will they remove Spanish troops from Iraq?

[Solace]

You are talking cryptic to me.

IU is the United Left? Communist?
PP is the Popular Party?

Why is the left so broken in Spain?

PP is really shit. I don’t know why they call themselves popular, they kept on cutting this and privatising that. Aznar seemed quite authoritarian.

I agree with you, but we should not wait any good reforms or radical change in Spain with the Socialists. They did practically nothing for the workers during 14 years, they won’t start now.

[SittingBull47]

very cool. I hope they clean up in the polls

[Soul Rebel]

you have to understand that during the 80's anybody would have had a tough time doing anything while in power. franco had only died in 75 and so everything was changing very rapidly and nobody knew what to do. after living in a fascist state for over thirty years and then the dictator dies, what do you do? nobody had a freaking clue.

[RedCeltic]

It's a step in the right direction, that's for sure.

While I'm overjoyed at the party winning I have to
mention, that they haven't been socialist since the late
1970's. They went down the path of "Social Democracy."

[BOZG]

So the likelihood is that nothing is going to really change? And everyone wants to party why? Something quite obvious I forgot about, if an ACTUAL socialist party was that popular, Spain would be in the process of a revolution, not a bourgeois election.