GRUNGE?

[atlanticche]

ive been comptemplating this with a couple of friends but is there any kind of grunge movement or genre i dont mean now but was there ever because there are very few bands alike in the grunge catagorry and the majority are very different eg soundgarden and pearl jam, ive even heard bands like NIN being included just because they were around during the "grunge movement", is grunge just an attitude, a way of life or is there really any musical grunge disincluding nirvana, please post your opnions on this.

[canikickit]

I think that there is a similarity in the music of Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden and Nirvana. Some others too the names of which I cannot recall.

[mentalbunny]

There were quite a few bands in the early 90's around the Seattle area, I believe, like Nirvana and AIC, who were part of the Grunge movement. Not all of them became really famous. I'm sure if you have a look at a copy of Kurt Cobain's journal there're lists of his favourite bands and stuff, and quite a few of those are "grunge" I expect.

[Soul Rebel]

Its music and a way of life. It was a good time then- good music, good movies, good people. I dont know- so much was going on. Its hard to explain. Either you lived it or you didnt. I lived it and still do- yeah, im stuck in it:D Im having a really tough time trying to explain what it was like....i might have to get back to this.....all i can really say is that i miss that time.

[nezvanova]

well, kobain loved the meat puppets....that about concludes my knowledge of this type of music :P

[synthesis]

Grunge was really more of a scene than a genre. Mudhoney, for example, was mostly Stooges-influenced, but you can't really see any of that in Soundgarden or Alice in Chains, who were much more inspired by Zeppelin and Black Sabbath.

Nirvana drew a lot of influences together from the start. Practically every band formed before 1990 has been cited as an influence on Nirvana. I think one of the things that made them so popular was that they had just the right mixture of Beatles-y pop and 70's punk; they combined the two and then sort of adapted to the grunge scene, which was already becoming the "new trend" to a certain extent.

Mostly, Nirvana had really damn good timing.

[mentalbunny]

And Nirvana tapped into teenage angst really well, with great tunes. (that's not to discredit Kurt Cobain and his suffering, but we all know about teenage angst).

[New Direction]

Having grown up as a teenager during that period, I think that the grunge scene, as mentalbunny suggested, could be described as an outlet for teenage angst.

There was nothing better than putting on Rearviewmirror by Pearl Jam or Radio Friendly Unit Shifter by Nirvana to get rid of some of your frustrations. Come to think about it, I still do that.

Although, as well as Nirvana and Pearl Jam etc, there were many other good bands who never stood the test of time, for example Stone Temple Pilots. Their album, Plush , was fantastic.

[(*]

Originally posted by [email protected] 12 2004, 05:35 PM
Its music and a way of life. It was a good time then- good music, good movies, good people. I dont know- so much was going on. Its hard to explain. Either you lived it or you didnt. I lived it and still do- yeah, im stuck in it:D Im having a really tough time trying to explain what it was like....i might have to get back to this.....all i can really say is that i miss that time.
I agree 100%. I still consider myself grunge. It is definitely a way of life and attitude.


On a side note, The new song by Incubus (megalomanica sp?), has a grunde feeling also.

[SittingBull47]

meh. I'd say NIN was grunge. Stabbing westward, NIN, Orgy, i think that's all debatable grunge.

I agree with dyermaker. it was more of a scene

[commie kg]

I live in Seattle, and for the most part, I can't stand grunge! :P

[Floyd.]

It's pretty fucking basic really, alice in chains, nirvana, soundgarden, pearl jam, the melvins, the jesus lizard, mudhoney, the birthday party, the scientists, the saints, temple of the dog, sonic youth, the catholics, the breeders, eyes adrift, sweet 75. yes grunge is a lifestyle/attitude/music but namely to what that is; is self-hate and destruction while being a cynic of the outside as opposed to shit like nu-metal which is where it all fucked up and it became self-pity and total contempt for the outside. Grunge was the pinnacle music has reached in my mind because it was/is in acceptance of reality and the way things are and it also posessed a great sober anger as opposed to most wide-eyed simple perserveerance(???? spelling). basically grunge is fucking true and about being an outsider not deemed by yourself but by the majority and screaming fuck till your throat bleeds. Fuck all you weak ****s out there who think this shit is "cool," to appreciate grunge is easy, to understand it is another thing to be it is beyond choice. Fuck the mainstream, fuck religion, fuck my own pretension... here have it... oh wait you seem to have your own. FUCK YOU ALL WHO DOUBT THE EXISTENCE OF SOMETHING AS TRUE AS MUSIC/HUMANITY. well grunge got all fucked up with the evolution and shit like the vines then the rock revival fucked it all and nu metal fucked it more, at least we got some okay imitators like bush, some okay punk like the distillers and it's great that grunge isn't as thriving because now all you posers can die away and fuck off because other things are "cooler"

[Hate Is Art]

NIN are industrial not Grunge.

First early grunge bands I would say were Jesus and Mary Chain and Joy Division, who inspired pixies who inspired Nirvana. Grunge only became mainstream during the early 90's.