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Heesh
10th March 2004, 21:13
I'm doing some research and I'm trying to assemble a list of dictators that the US is backing, keyword being IS meaning I need current day supported dictators. Primarily from south america would help but dictators from all regions of the world are welcome. It's hard finding a solid list in one place. Please add your own. I know, this doesnt belong in history but i thought it fit better here than in current events.

timbaly
10th March 2004, 21:41
Well there have been a lot less US backed dictators since the cold war ended. The Saudi monarchy might be a good example. You should be able to argue that a monarchy is extremely similar to a dictatorship. The Saudi monarchy is very much against the majority of 'American ideals".

LuZhiming
10th March 2004, 23:04
Islam Karimov(Uzbekistan)
Abdullah ibn Abdul Aziz(Saudi Arabia)
Teodore Obiang Nguema Mbasogo(Equatorial Guinea)
King Abdullah II(Jordan)
Saparmurat Niyazov(Turkmenistan)
Pervez Musharraf(Pakistan)
Abdelaziz Bouteflika(Algeria)

Individual
10th March 2004, 23:14
List of some of the dictators that have been US friendly (Also refer to LZ's list):

Abacha, General Sani - Nigeria
Amin, Idi - Uganda
Banzer, Colonel Hugo - Bolivia
Batista, Fulgencio - Cuba
Bolkiah, Sir Hassanal - Brunei
Botha, P.W. - South Africa
Branco, General Humberto - Brazil
Cedras, Raoul - Haiti
Cerezo, Vinicio - Guatemala
Chiang Kai-Shek - Taiwan
Cordova, Roberto Suazo - Honduras
Christiani, Alfredo - El Salvador
Diem, Ngo Dihn - Vietnam
Doe, General Samuel - Liberia
Duvalier, Francois - Haiti
Duvalier, Jean Claude - Haiti
Fahd bin'Abdul-'Aziz, King - Saudi Arabia
Franco, General Francisco - Spain
Hitler, Adolf - Germany
Hassan II - Morocco
Marcos, Ferdinand - Philippines
Martinez, General Maximiliano Hernandez - El Salvador
Mobutu Sese Seko - Zaire
Noriega, General Manuel - Panama
Ozal, Turgut - Turkey
Pahlevi, Shah Mohammed Reza - Iran
Papadopoulos, George - Greece
Park Chung Hee - South Korea
Pinochet, General Augusto - Chile
Pol Pot - Cambodia
Rabuka, General Sitiveni - Fiji
Montt, General Efrain Rios - Guatemala
Salassie, Halie - Ethiopia
Salazar, Antonio de Oliveira - Portugal
Somoza, Anastasio Jr. - Nicaragua
Somoza, Anastasio, Sr. - Nicaragua
Smith, Ian - Rhodesia
Stroessner, Alfredo - Paraguay
Suharto, General - Indonesia
Trujillo, Rafael Leonidas - Dominican Republic
Videla, General Jorge Rafael - Argentina
Zia Ul-Haq, Mohammed - Pakistan

link (http://hvhs.nbed.nb.ca/mwornell/totalitarianism/others.htm)

LuZhiming
10th March 2004, 23:27
Originally posted by [email protected] 11 2004, 12:14 AM
List of some of the dictators that have been US friendly (Also refer to LZ's list):

Abacha, General Sani - Nigeria
Amin, Idi - Uganda
Banzer, Colonel Hugo - Bolivia
Batista, Fulgencio - Cuba
Bolkiah, Sir Hassanal - Brunei
Botha, P.W. - South Africa
Branco, General Humberto - Brazil
Cedras, Raoul - Haiti
Cerezo, Vinicio - Guatemala
Chiang Kai-Shek - Taiwan
Cordova, Roberto Suazo - Honduras
Christiani, Alfredo - El Salvador
Diem, Ngo Dihn - Vietnam
Doe, General Samuel - Liberia
Duvalier, Francois - Haiti
Duvalier, Jean Claude - Haiti
Fahd bin'Abdul-'Aziz, King - Saudi Arabia
Franco, General Francisco - Spain
Hitler, Adolf - Germany
Hassan II - Morocco
Marcos, Ferdinand - Philippines
Martinez, General Maximiliano Hernandez - El Salvador
Mobutu Sese Seko - Zaire
Noriega, General Manuel - Panama
Ozal, Turgut - Turkey
Pahlevi, Shah Mohammed Reza - Iran
Papadopoulos, George - Greece
Park Chung Hee - South Korea
Pinochet, General Augusto - Chile
Pol Pot - Cambodia
Rabuka, General Sitiveni - Fiji
Montt, General Efrain Rios - Guatemala
Salassie, Halie - Ethiopia
Salazar, Antonio de Oliveira - Portugal
Somoza, Anastasio Jr. - Nicaragua
Somoza, Anastasio, Sr. - Nicaragua
Smith, Ian - Rhodesia
Stroessner, Alfredo - Paraguay
Suharto, General - Indonesia
Trujillo, Rafael Leonidas - Dominican Republic
Videla, General Jorge Rafael - Argentina
Zia Ul-Haq, Mohammed - Pakistan

link (http://hvhs.nbed.nb.ca/mwornell/totalitarianism/others.htm)
"keyword being IS meaning I need current day supported dictators"

Sorry man, he wants current dictators. I actually have a list of some 88 dictators backed at one time or another by the U.S.

Individual
10th March 2004, 23:49
haha. Sorry about that. Skimmed over that part.

Well if it counts, most if not all of those are within the last 100 years.

Not to change the subject at hand, however LZ would you care to provide me with that list though PM or link. I am curious to see this. Thank you.

Heesh-I will keep searching around. However you are right, it is hard finding a list of 'current' US friendly dictators. I'd say that most are in that list, however the problem being that the list contains many that are not 'current'.

Morpheus
11th March 2004, 02:08
LZ would you care to provide me with that list though PM or link.

Could you please just post it here, LZ? There are probably several others, including myself, who would like to see it.

Also, the US is currently supporting the dictatorship in Egypt. I think his name is Mubarak or something like that. Egypt is #2 in foreign aid, Israel is #1.

Heesh
11th March 2004, 02:37
^^ yea hosni mubarak, I'm from egypt and I just visited last summer and will probably visit again this summer.

sh0cker
11th March 2004, 09:51
Mubarak or something like that..
It seems that he is in good relationship with America, yesterday I saw on some news that in Cairo are going to be some forums between some Israel's..


sh0cker

The Feral Underclass
11th March 2004, 13:08
President Megawati Sukarnoputri - Indonesia

LuZhiming
12th March 2004, 00:46
Here is the list:

Adolf Hitler(Germany)
Augusto Pinochet(Chile)
Benito Mussolini(Italy)
Suharto(Indonesia)
Saddam Hussein(Iraq)
Fulgencio Batista(Cuba)
Manuel Noriega(Panama)
Castillo Armas(Guatemala)
Pol Pot(Cambodia)
António de Oliveira Salazar(Portugal)
Mobutu Sese Seko(Zaire)
Ngo Dinh Diem(South Vietnam)
Rafael Trujillo(Dominican Republic)
Anastasio Somoza Garcia(Nicaragua)
Luis Somoza Debayle(Nicaragua)
Anastasio Somoza Debayle(Nicaragua)
Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi(Iran)
Hugo Banzer(Bolivia)
P.W. Botha(South Africa)
Park Chung Hee(South Korea)
Jorge Ubico(Guatemala)
Miguel Ydigoras(Guatemala)
Porfirio Diaz(Mexico)
Enrique Peralta(Guatemala)
Carlos Arana Osorio(Guatemala)
Rios Montt(Guatemala)
Francisco Franco(Spain)
Kjell Laugerud Garcia(Guatemala)
Fernando Romeo Lucas Garcia(Guatemala)
Anibal Guevara(Guatemala)
Oscar Mejia Victores(Guatemala)
Vinicio Cerezo(Guatemala)
Chiang Kai-Shek(China/Taiwan)
"Papa Doc" Duvalier(Haiti)
"Baby Doc" Duvalier(Haiti)
Humberto Branco(Brazil)
Hernandez Martinez(El Salvador)
Tiburcio Carias Andino(Honduras)
Julio Rivera(El Salvador)
Alfredo Cristiani(El Salvador)
Samuel Doe(Liberia)
Abdul Aziz Ibn Saud(Saudi Arabia)
Saud ibn Abdul Aziz(Saudi Arabia)
Faisal ibn Abdul Aziz(Saudi Arabia)
Fahd ibn Abdul Aziz(Saudi Arabia)
Abdullah ibn Abdul Aziz(Saudi Arabia)
Ferdinand Marcos(Philippines)
Hassan II(Morocco)
Jorge Rafael Videla(Argentina)
Mohammed Zia Ul Haq(Pakistan)
Alfredo Stroessner(Paraguay)
Halie Selassie(Ethiopia)
Ian Smith(Rhodesia)
King Hussein(Jordan)
Sitiveni Rabuka(Fiji)
George Papadopoulos(Greece)
Nguyen Van Thieu(South Vietnam)
Hassanal Bolkiah(Brunei)
Idi Amin(Uganda)
Pervez Musharraf(Pakistan)
Nicolae Ceausescu(Romania)
Juan Vicente Gomez(Venezuela)
Juan Maria Bordaberry(Uruguay)
Phibun Songkhram(Thailand)
Sarit Thanarat(Thailand)
Thanom Kittikachorn(Thailand)
Donald Reid Cabral(Dominican Republic)
Ramon Castro Jijon(Ecuador)
Alberto Fujimori(Peru)
Lon Nol(Cambodia)
Zhelyu Zhelev(Bulgaria)
Islam Karimov(Uzbekistan)
Omar Torrijos(Panama)
Guillermo Rodriguez(Ecuador)
Juan Velasco Alvarado(Peru)
Leopoldo Galtieri(Argentina)
Saparmurat Niyazov(Turkmenistan)
Teodoro Obiang(Equatorial Guinea)
Mohammed Boudiaff(Algeria)
Ali Kafi(Algeria)
Liamine Zeroual(Algeria)
Abdelaziz Bouteflika(Algeria)
Syngman Rhee(South Korea)
Choi Kyu Hah(South Korea)
Chun Doo Hwan(South Korea)
Prosper Avril(Haiti)
Hissene Habre(Chad)
Bucharuddin Jusuf Habibie(Indonesia)
King Abdullah II(Jordan)
Sheik Jaber Al Ahmed Al Sabah(Kuwait)
Hosni Mubarak(Egypt)

91!

NOTE: Josef Stalin was not included because the U.S. was plotting against him during World War II the whole time, and the backing was more of a coalition against the Nazi's than anything else.(I want to make it clear that the reason I didn't include Stalin isn't because I am some kind of fan of his that believes he isn't a dictator. He was a dictator and I don't like him.)

I initially thought the Presidents of Egypt and Indonesia were fairly elected. I have done some research on my own, and have reached the conclusion that at least Mubarak was not freely elected.

This list isn't necessarily complete.

EDIT: I have added a couple more I missed. If anyone has any others, please feel free to tell me who they are.(I know there are more, perhaps in Kuwait and Greece.)

Morpheus
12th March 2004, 01:18
Also, the Presidents of Egypt and Indonesia were both fairly elected to the best of my knolwedge.

The current President of Egypt was "elected" in a rigged election that gave him over 90% of the vote and in which his opponets face significant state repression.

Heesh
12th March 2004, 02:22
Not to mention you'll lose your job if you publically make a bad comment about him.