Lol, “innovators�

[Jimmie Higgins]

Silicon Valley elites are spending $60 for less than 3 gallons of dangerous, unfiltered water — and it's flying off the shelves


Jan. 2, 2018, 9:39 PM 206,003

People in San Francisco are spending up to $61 for untreated, unfiltered water - and it is so popular that stores are apparently having a hard time keeping it in stock.

Other Silicon Valley insiders are gathering and storing untreated spring water, The New York Times reported.

But food-safety experts say that consuming "raw" water can lead to infections such as cholera, hepatitis A, and E. coli.

Silicon Valley is developing a "raw water" obsession.

In San Francisco, "unfiltered, untreated, unsterilized spring water" from a company called Live Water is selling for up to $61 for a decorative 2.5-gallon jug - and it's flying off the shelves, The New York Times reported....

http://www.businessinsider.com/silicon-valley-raw-water-obsession-2018-1?utm_source=feedly&utm_medium=referral

[BIXX]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Holy shit how can people be so dumb

[Jimmie Higgins]

B-b-but they are the geniuses of the world! They will replace irrational democracy with a perfect governing algorithm.

These people are the fucking worst... California Uber Alles :/

[ckaihatsu]

It's probably because spring water -- of whatever quality -- goes through natural 'vortexing' motions which reduces the clumping of the water molecules, making the water more permeable through cell membranes, for much better hydration to the body. (Water transported through pipes doesn't benefit from any vortexing motions because no vortexes form in this way.)

One can do the same thing by simply vigorously stirring a cupful of water with a spoon for about a minute. You'll notice that the resulting water is noticeably *thinner* in texture, 'sparklier' when held up to light, and is much more refreshing when drunk.

Here are some relevant videos:


Structured Water Cheap, Easy!

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Structured Water Plant Experiment Final Results January 2016

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Forget ‘raw water’ — there’s a safer off grid alternative to the dangerous craze

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[Ele'ill]

structured water




https://youtu.be/k8y5kgKR2Dc

[BIXX]

Ckaihatsu what's wrong with u

[ckaihatsu]

Ckaihatsu what's wrong with u


Dude, I thought you *liked* this kind of stuff.... No?

Oh, that's right, you're the one who stays in your cave most of the time, emerging occasionally only to berate others on this forum for perceived personal transgressions, and to try out a little social engineering as well.

You should have a diploma in 'Ignoring Content' since you haven't addressed any of it here.

[Decolonize The Left]

For some reason the title of this thread made me think of this song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIK2vDRVgKE

[BIXX]

Dude, I thought you *liked* this kind of stuff.... No?

Oh, that's right, you're the one who stays in your cave most of the time, emerging occasionally only to berate others on this forum for perceived personal transgressions, and to try out a little social engineering as well.

You should have a diploma in 'Ignoring Content' since you haven't addressed any of it here.

Given that not only myself but many others have addressed your "content" many times on this forum and you've shown yourself to be unable to listen I think the content can be safely disregarded.

[ckaihatsu]

Given that not only myself but many others have addressed your "content" many times on this forum and you've shown yourself to be unable to listen I think the content can be safely disregarded.


The barrier to entry is incredibly low for this dynamic -- if one vigorously stirs a cupful of water with a spoon, a vortex is created for that quantity of water. Do that for a minute and you'll have 'structured' water that you can then try for yourself.

You can't complain about the process because the cost is *negligible* -- if you're not willing to experience this different type of water then you have no grounds to say anything about it.

[BIXX]

It's objectively not a different type of water chris. It's just water. Source me a peer reviewed scientific article that says that after you stir water vigorously for a minute and you have a different type of water.

[Jimmie Higgins]

Y’all are really harshing my rich-fucks-mockery buzz. Lol.


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[Antiochus]

Structured water lawl. You know, it might just be better if they actually die.

[ckaihatsu]

It's objectively not a different type of water chris. It's just water. Source me a peer reviewed scientific article that says that after you stir water vigorously for a minute and you have a different type of water.


Yeah, it doesn't work that way -- this is d.i.y., since you haven't noticed.

Also, water is a *crystal*, even in liquid form. It tends to clump up at the molecular scale, which is why vortexing water has a real physical change on the substance.

[Ele'ill]

are you being serious?

[BIXX]

Yeah, it doesn't work that way -- this is d.i.y., since you haven't noticed.
did you know a great way to cure butt cancer is to insert a tsp of cayenne pepper into your rectum. I don't have to prove this, it's DIY.


Also, water is a *crystal*, even in liquid form. It tends to clump up at the molecular scale, which is why vortexing water has a real physical change on the substance.
You wouldn't pass high school chemistry. There's a lot wrong with this but seeing as you aren't sourcing your claims with peer reviewed articles I won't bother sourcing mine. The burden of proof here lies on you.

[ckaihatsu]

did you know a great way to cure butt cancer is to insert a tsp of cayenne pepper into your rectum. I don't have to prove this, it's DIY.


Congrats on your recovery.





You wouldn't pass high school chemistry. There's a lot wrong with this but seeing as you aren't sourcing your claims with peer reviewed articles I won't bother sourcing mine. The burden of proof here lies on you.


Sure, you don't *have* to acknowledge facts, but then you're just being abstentionist from this particular topic, as with all others here -- you simply use aggression-passivity instead of actually addressing the content.

The burden of proof here can be satisfied by stirring a vortex into a cupful of water with a spoon for a minute.

[perardua]

I went ahead and did the water experiment, and I have no idea what the hell you're talking about ckaihatsu.

It tastes exactly the same. I tried a glass of normal water for comparison and I can't tell the difference. I forgot to check if it was more sparkly, so I'll do that tomorrow.

Still, even were I to notice a difference, that's not enough, since there is supposed to be a theory underlying why it is different. And here I am with BIXX, that has to be demonstrated, peer review and all the rest.

[ckaihatsu]

I went ahead and did the water experiment, and I have no idea what the hell you're talking about ckaihatsu.

It tastes exactly the same.


It's not about the taste, it's about the *texture*. Optionally one could fill a bottle with marbles or beads, add water, and then *shake* the bottle (30 secs - 1 minute) to do the same thing. Best, I've found, is using the 'Tornado in a Bottle' plastic toy coupler (https://www.ebay.com/itm/2Pcs-Cyclone-Tube-Tornado-Vortex-Bottle-Water-Science-Experiment-Kids-Sensory-/281819513239) on a pair of 1.5L SmartWater bottles -- 4 times per batch. There's also the technique in the first video at post #4, and one could also buy prills to do the same thing, effort-free (~$20).





I tried a glass of normal water for comparison and I can't tell the difference. I forgot to check if it was more sparkly, so I'll do that tomorrow.

Still, even were I to notice a difference, that's not enough, since there is supposed to be a theory underlying why it is different. And here I am with BIXX, that has to be demonstrated, peer review and all the rest.


Well, I brought it up because of the original topic ('raw water'), but I'm not trying to *tell* anyone what to do -- either you *want* to try this out, or you don't.

F.y.i, for more-*academic* backing, here's a search and a page:


https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&hs=jWL&biw=1365&bih=702&tbm=vid&ei=4stTWuHSDNDuzgKxi5C4AQ&q=Prof.+Rustum+Roy+-+Changing+Water%27s+Structure&oq=Prof.+Rustum+Roy+-+Changing+Water%27s+Structure&gs_l=psy-ab.3...21246.26326.0.26947.25.25.0.0.0.0.193.2936. 0j23.23.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..2.2.289...33i160k1.0.hTH_XHWstTo

http://www.silverhealthinstitute.com/rustum-roy-waters-structure-colloidal-silver-new-vectors/

[perardua]

It's not about the taste, it's about the *texture*. Optionally one could fill a bottle with marbles or beads, add water, and then *shake* the bottle (30 secs - 1 minute) to do the same thing. Best, I've found, is using the 'Tornado in a Bottle' plastic toy coupler (https://www.ebay.com/itm/2Pcs-Cyclone-Tube-Tornado-Vortex-Bottle-Water-Science-Experiment-Kids-Sensory-/281819513239) on a pair of 1.5L SmartWater bottles -- 4 times per batch. There's also the technique in the first video at post #4, and one could also buy prills to do the same thing, effort-free (~$20).
Taste, texture, whatever. Couldn't tell any difference.



Well, I brought it up because of the original topic ('raw water'), but I'm not trying to *tell* anyone what to do -- either you *want* to try this out, or you don't.

F.y.i, for more-*academic* backing, here's a search and a page:


https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&hs=jWL&biw=1365&bih=702&tbm=vid&ei=4stTWuHSDNDuzgKxi5C4AQ&q=Prof.+Rustum+Roy+-+Changing+Water%27s+Structure&oq=Prof.+Rustum+Roy+-+Changing+Water%27s+Structure&gs_l=psy-ab.3...21246.26326.0.26947.25.25.0.0.0.0.193.2936. 0j23.23.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..2.2.289...33i160k1.0.hTH_XHWstTo

http://www.silverhealthinstitute.com/rustum-roy-waters-structure-colloidal-silver-new-vectors/
Right. I got the impression that you countered BIXX's request for evidence with claiming that they should just do the experiment and see for themself, as if that would be enough evidence.

I can't be arsed to go through the article right now, but I wonder how trustworthy this Rustum Roy guy is. He has co-authored an article with Deepak Chopra for fuck's sake. That at least signals poor judgement.

[ckaihatsu]

Taste, texture, whatever. Couldn't tell any difference.


All I can say is try stirring for a longer duration, or try using one of the other techniques.





Right. I got the impression that you countered BIXX's request for evidence with claiming that they should just do the experiment and see for themself, as if that would be enough evidence.


Well, it *should* be -- it would be a valid scientific *observation*.





I can't be arsed to go through the article right now, but I wonder how trustworthy this Rustum Roy guy is. He has co-authored an article with Deepak Chopra for fuck's sake. That at least signals poor judgement.


Well, you seem to think that using 'guilt by association' is okay. I will note, though, that both of them tend to work in the *granular* scale of things.

[perardua]

Yeah, maybe it was a bit unfair. I do know that Deepak has an area of actual expertise, despite all the bullshit he slings, so I'll hold off judgement.

[Homo Songun]

Yeah, maybe it was a bit unfair. I do know that Deepak has an area of actual expertise, despite all the bullshit he slings, so I'll hold off judgement.

You mean, besides leveraging Orientalism and middle class prejudices to fleece stupid Yanks? Because he deserves a goddamn Nobel for that one.

This Rustum Roy guy may be scientist at 5 different universities but he is still committing numerous and grievous errors in reasoning. You know what else has a 'colloidal structure'? Snake oil...

[perardua]

Yeah, besides all that. It might be the chance of a piss in the Mississippi, but I'm feeling generous today.

[ckaihatsu]

You mean, besides leveraging Orientalism and middle class prejudices to fleece stupid Yanks? Because he deserves a goddamn Nobel for that one.




This Rustum Roy guy may be scientist at 5 different universities but he is still committing numerous and grievous errors in reasoning.


You should *specify* these....





You know what else has a 'colloidal structure'? Snake oil...


Nice rhetorical flourish! It's more covering for an unfamiliarity on your part with the subject matter, though -- !

[Homo Songun]

You should *specify* these....

Hey whats good for the goose is good for the gander. Like you always say, "Do your own research" !

[Antiochus]

Chris, you are such a fucking moron that I should expect this garbage from you. But I ask whatever sane admins remain, for the sake of appearances if anything, that Chris be demoted from an admin.

His rant about structured water, something that lies in the same plane of ridicule and stupidity as thinking lemon juice will make people invisible or that coconut oil will cure cancer, shows his violently anti-scientific, mystic, anti-material, idealistic outlook.

PS: Liquid water is NOT A FUCKING CRYSTAL YOU CHARLATAN. Take a 3rd grade chemistry course and stop being so utterly ignorant. No, "hexagonal water" will not "better hydrate" cells you imbecile, water is imported into the cell in individual molecules because even though they are small, the interior of the cell membrane is hydrophobic and will not permit diffusion, so active protein channels are required.

And if you stopped to think for 3 seconds Chris, if you weren't a such a tragic stooge: Do you know what the stomach does? Oh thats right, its a muscle that constantly churns food and liquid. Yet you are claiming water we drink, which doesn't enter our cells until much later than mechanical digestion, is better suited in its "structured" form! LMFAO.

[BIXX]

Chris, you are such a fucking moron that I should expect this garbage from you. But I ask whatever sane admins remain, for the sake of appearances if anything, that Chris be demoted from an admin.

His rant about structured water, something that lies in the same plane of ridicule and stupidity as thinking lemon juice will make people invisible or that coconut oil will cure cancer, shows his violently anti-scientific, mystic, anti-material, idealistic outlook.

PS: Liquid water is NOT A FUCKING CRYSTAL YOU CHARLATAN. Take a 3rd grade chemistry course and stop being so utterly ignorant. No, "hexagonal water" will not "better hydrate" cells you imbecile, water is imported into the cell in individual molecules because even though they are small, the interior of the cell membrane is hydrophobic and will not permit diffusion, so active protein channels are required.

And if you stopped to think for 3 seconds Chris, if you weren't a such a tragic stooge: Do you know what the stomach does? Oh thats right, its a muscle that constantly churns food and liquid. Yet you are claiming water we drink, which doesn't enter our cells until much later than mechanical digestion, is better suited in its "structured" form! LMFAO.
woop woop

[BIXX]

Sure, you don't *have* to acknowledge facts, but then you're just being abstentionist from this particular topic, as with all others here -- you simply use aggression-passivity instead of actually addressing the content.
What you're claiming has no content to back it up, I've just addressed the fact that you have no facts and no peer reviewed articles to back you up. An extraordinary claim requires extraordinary evidence.

Of course, you think your suggestion below would actually constitute rigorous scientific testing.


The burden of proof here can be satisfied by stirring a vortex into a cupful of water with a spoon for a minute.

Though while I'm here...


https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&hs=jWL&biw=1365&bih=702&tbm=vid&ei=4stTWuHSDNDuzgKxi5C4AQ&q=Prof.+Rustum+Roy+-+Changing+Water%27s+Structure&oq=Prof.+Rustum+Roy+-+Changing+Water%27s+Structure&gs_l=psy-ab.3...21246.26326.0.26947.25.25.0.0.0.0.193.2936. 0j23.23.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..2.2.289...33i160k1.0.hTH_XHWstTo

http://www.silverhealthinstitute.com/rustum-roy-waters-structure-colloidal-silver-new-vectors/
Chris, do you know what peer reviewed scientific articles are? Just to help you out, that's NOT what peer reviewed scientific articles are.

[ckaihatsu]

This Rustum Roy guy may be scientist at 5 different universities but he is still committing numerous and grievous errors in reasoning.





You should *specify* these....





Hey whats good for the goose is good for the gander. Like you always say, "Do your own research" !


Hey, it's up to you, HS -- if you want to communicate poorly, go right ahead. No one's going to make your arguments *for* you....





Chris, you are such a fucking moron that I should expect this garbage from you. But I ask whatever sane admins remain, for the sake of appearances if anything, that Chris be demoted from an admin.

His rant about structured water, something that lies in the same plane of ridicule and stupidity as thinking lemon juice will make people invisible or that coconut oil will cure cancer, shows his violently anti-scientific, mystic, anti-material, idealistic outlook.

PS: Liquid water is NOT A FUCKING CRYSTAL YOU CHARLATAN. Take a 3rd grade chemistry course and stop being so utterly ignorant. No, "hexagonal water" will not "better hydrate" cells you imbecile, water is imported into the cell in individual molecules because even though they are small, the interior of the cell membrane is hydrophobic and will not permit diffusion, so active protein channels are required.

And if you stopped to think for 3 seconds Chris, if you weren't a such a tragic stooge: Do you know what the stomach does? Oh thats right, its a muscle that constantly churns food and liquid. Yet you are claiming water we drink, which doesn't enter our cells until much later than mechanical digestion, is better suited in its "structured" form! LMFAO.


There's no 'anti-scientific, mystic, anti-material, idealistic' outlook here -- I've made solid claims about how one can easily make thinner, 'sparklier' water, but if you don't make the efforts then you won't have the scientific observation of the evidence in front of you.

I'd be glad to let this topic drop because of the inappropriate vitriol leveled at me from others here, but, interestingly, the continued posting of insulting 'opposition' just keeps the topic alive...!

Your line of biological reasoning isn't relevant to the subject matter.





What you're claiming has no content to back it up, I've just addressed the fact that you have no facts and no peer reviewed articles to back you up. An extraordinary claim requires extraordinary evidence.


Look into the 'epitaxy' of water, or d.i.y.





Of course, you think your suggestion below would actually constitute rigorous scientific testing.


Don't look at *me* -- I *told* you what you can do for the sake of scientific investigation, but when it comes to this topic you'd rather rely on bourgeois science-industry 'expertise'. Whatever.





Though while I'm here...


Chris, do you know what peer reviewed scientific articles are? Just to help you out, that's NOT what peer reviewed scientific articles are.


(Ditto.)

[Ele'ill]

what happens when you drink hexagonal magic Borax water while wearing crystal pendants besides getting sick and dying

[Homo Songun]

what happens when you drink hexagonal magic Borax water while wearing crystal pendants besides getting sick and dying
There needs to be more studies on the origins and class basis of modern quackery, the relationship to the healthcare industry, the human cost, the revolutionary solution, etc.

Viva Comrade Randi

:laugh:

[ckaihatsu]

what happens when you drink hexagonal magic Borax water while wearing crystal pendants besides getting sick and dying


Funny, but now you're just making stuff up.

[Ele'ill]

Funny, but now you're just making stuff up.

you've peddled the drinking of Borax, crystal pendents, and hexagonal water, in several threads, you've denied it like you're doing here until someone posts links to the threads, in which case since you're almost out of options you defend it or dismiss it as originating from some imaginary faction, a faction which has included the vast majority of active posters throughout the years who got sick of your advertisements, news spam, and ridiculous medical/medicine claims as can be seen by doing a forum search for your threads, and posts

[ckaihatsu]

you've peddled the drinking of Borax, crystal pendents, and hexagonal water, in several threads, you've denied it like you're doing here until someone posts links to the threads, in which case since you're almost out of options you defend it or dismiss it as originating from some imaginary faction, a faction which has included the vast majority of active posters throughout the years who got sick of your advertisements, news spam, and ridiculous medical/medicine claims as can be seen by doing a forum search for your threads, and posts


You know, I'm *glad* this tangential subject of 'structured water' came up in the discussion because it helps to show that all you and BIXX do is make *accusations* and misconstrue my side of the topic.

I don't *peddle* -- you're being dismissive of things you don't know about, and you're scapegoating me for it when there has been no violation of policy or any other problem with it. The road that you're on is to section-off an entire topic of discussion by accusing me of 'peddling'. If controversial topics like this one *can't* be openly discussed then it's effectively unscientific *censorship*, simply because you need to tout your own personal opinion, which is unacceptable.

As I just said:





I'd be glad to let this topic drop because of the inappropriate vitriol leveled at me from others here, but, interestingly, the continued posting of insulting 'opposition' just keeps the topic alive...!

[Homo Songun]

I don't *peddle*
That is true. You are simply an Olympian caliber troll. I doff my cap to you, sir.

[ckaihatsu]

That is true. You are simply an Olympian caliber troll. I doff my cap to you, sir.


Yeah, don't cross over *my* bridge....


x D

[Ele'ill]

You know, I'm *glad* this tangential subject of 'structured water' came up in the discussion because it helps to show that all you and BIXX do is make *accusations* and misconstrue my side of the topic.

I don't *peddle* -- you're being dismissive of things you don't know about, and you're scapegoating me for it when there has been no violation of policy or any other problem with it. The road that you're on is to section-off an entire topic of discussion by accusing me of 'peddling'. If controversial topics like this one *can't* be openly discussed then it's effectively unscientific *censorship*, simply because you need to tout your own personal opinion, which is unacceptable.

As I just said:

You've been caught peddling gimmicks and you've tried to defend those gimmicks by linking to advertisement sales sites, never mind the advertisement pay events that you link to, that are excessively close to progressive politics, generally. You have been unable to back up the silly gimmicks that you peddle after presenting them for conversation (at inappropriate times) hence the accusation of peddling, because you are peddling and what you are peddling are gimmicks.

If you don't want to talk about the things you post for conversation, don't post them, and definitely don't ask me to accept your silly and ridiculous ideas.

[ckaihatsu]

You've been caught peddling gimmicks


Bullshit -- you're making shit up again. Sharing information is *not* the same as marketing / peddling.





and you've tried to defend those gimmicks by linking to advertisement sales sites, never mind the advertisement pay events that you link to, that are excessively close to progressive politics, generally. You have been unable to back up the silly gimmicks that you peddle after presenting them for conversation (at inappropriate times) hence the accusation of peddling, because you are peddling and what you are peddling are gimmicks.


Again you talk shit out of a position of ignorance.





If you don't want to talk about the things you post for conversation, don't post them, and definitely don't ask me to accept your silly and ridiculous ideas.


I'm *not*, actually -- just don't bother posting bullshit. It's a very bad habit of yours and I get sick of cleaning up after your misinformed opinions.

[Ele'ill]

Bullshit -- you're making shit up again. Sharing information is *not* the same as marketing / peddling.





Again you talk shit out of a position of ignorance.





I'm *not*, actually -- just don't bother posting bullshit. It's a very bad habit of yours and I get sick of cleaning up after your misinformed opinions.


the links were posted in the ckaihatsu spamming thread and you're mistaken if you think this conversation is going to happen again, when all you have to do is offer up some credible literature proving that your new age hippy bullshit is anything other than new age hippy bullshit. It is a market, and it is a market full of gimmicks and it's really an extension of the nutrition/supplement industry that is up to its eyes in bullshit.

[Homo Songun]

Sharing information is *not* the same as marketing / peddling.
Stop derailing threads with your off-topic trolling about bullshit that has ruined the health of countless people.

[ckaihatsu]

the links were posted in the ckaihatsu spamming thread and you're mistaken if you think this conversation is going to happen again, when all you have to do is offer up some credible literature proving that your new age hippy bullshit is anything other than new age hippy bullshit. It is a market, and it is a market full of gimmicks and it's really an extension of the nutrition/supplement industry that is up to its eyes in bullshit.


Yeah, I provided a way for *anyone* to make structured water with a cup, a spoon, and water -- but you won't listen, and now you're making threats. This is *not* the way to be on a political discussion board.





Stop derailing threads with your off-topic trolling about bullshit that has ruined the health of countless people.


The info is relevant because it's related to this fad -- the topic of the thread -- of 'raw water'.

You, too, are speaking from a position of ignorance, so don't pretend like your words carry any weight.

[BIXX]

now you're making threats.

Quit making shit up

[ckaihatsu]

now you're making threats.





Quit making shit up


Nope, I don't -- here it is:





you're mistaken if you think this conversation is going to happen again

[BIXX]

I know what you're referring to but any sane person wouldn't call that a threat.

[ckaihatsu]

I know what you're referring to but any sane person wouldn't call that a threat.


Let's call it a 'perceived veiled threat'.

There's no reason to attack my sanity -- you're being too aggressive, as usual.

[BIXX]

Lol, it wasn't any kind of threat you're just pulling things out of your ass. Also, you've been way more aggressive than I have been in here. You're setting double standards and acting like no one can see it ckaihatsu. Everyone here sees what you are. Stop pretending you're anything other than a fraud.

[Ele'ill]

Yeah, I provided a way for *anyone* to make structured water with a cup, a spoon, and water -- but you won't listen, and now you're making threats. This is *not* the way to be on a political discussion board.

that's not a threat, that's me telling you that i'm not going to have that conversation with you again, and this is a communist discussion board not a political discussion board although funny you should say that

lol, fuck off with your comment about carrying any weight when you cannot provide a single credible source to back any of this up, or any of your dumb science/health threads ever, not once. you might as well just give up and go with 'i was trolling the entire time' because this is like the last stop before that chance to lie goes away imo

[ckaihatsu]

Lol, it wasn't any kind of threat you're just pulling things out of your ass. Also, you've been way more aggressive than I have been in here. You're setting double standards and acting like no one can see it ckaihatsu.


Nope, you're not reality's official representative.





Everyone here sees what you are. Stop pretending you're anything other than a fraud.


Vague -- and no 'pretending' on my part.

'Everyone here' is just you and Ele'ill.





that's not a threat, that's me telling you that i'm not going to have that conversation with you again, and this is a communist discussion board not a political discussion board although funny you should say that

lol, fuck off with your comment about carrying any weight when you cannot provide a single credible source to back any of this up, or any of your dumb science/health threads ever, not once. you might as well just give up and go with 'i was trolling the entire time' because this is like the last stop before that chance to lie goes away imo


And, you, Ele'ill keep thinking that others value your opinion, and that that's all you need here.

I've responded to these points already -- go catch up.

[Hermes]

Straight up - the instant I heard about this 'raw water' thing and rich people purposefully giving themselves dysentery, I thought of ckaihatsu.

[ckaihatsu]

Straight up - the instant I heard about this 'raw water' thing and rich people purposefully giving themselves dysentery, I thought of ckaihatsu.


= D


Yeah, fortunately there are better ways to do this kind of thing -- that's the reason for vortexing, etc.

[BIXX]

Nope, you're not reality's official representative.
Says the guy who believes in magic water, and in fact believes you can just stir water to get it.



Vague -- and no 'pretending' on my part.

'Everyone here' is just you and Ele'ill.
It's not vague, it's a specific assertion that you're a fraud. Also, it is definitively not just me and ele'ill because other users actively participate in these discussions criticizing you.



I've responded to these points already -- go catch up.
Actually you haven't addressed anyone's points.

[Ele'ill]

And, you, Ele'ill keep thinking that others value your opinion, and that that's all you need here.

well, 'here', i have 196 rp from my posts being acknowledged/thanked that many times, i have 11,510 posts, i joined in 2005

you joined in 2008, have 15,063 posts, and a rep power of 64


'here' as in regarding the current topic, a lot of people have told you your new age guru posts/threads are bullshit



I've responded to these points already -- go catch up.

no you haven't

[ckaihatsu]

Says the guy who believes in magic water, and in fact believes you can just stir water to get it.


It's not about belief -- you can always try it yourself at negligible expense.





It's not vague, it's a specific assertion that you're a fraud. Also, it is definitively not just me and ele'ill because other users actively participate in these discussions criticizing you.


Yeah, but your criticism isn't backed up by anything -- your opinions, without evidence, are worthless.





Actually you haven't addressed anyone's points.


Go back and check again. You're obviously overlooking something.





well, 'here', i have 196 rp from my posts being acknowledged/thanked that many times, i have 11,510 posts, i joined in 2005

you joined in 2008, have 15,063 posts, and a rep power of 64


Awesome. Pat yourself on the back for that one.





'here' as in regarding the current topic, a lot of people have told you your new age guru posts/threads are bullshit


So? Ignorance-based opinions, like yours, don't count for anything.





no you haven't


Yeah -- same advice: Go back and look again.

[Ele'ill]

Awesome. Pat yourself on the back for that one.


196 means i didn't have to pat myself on the back

[ckaihatsu]

196 means i didn't have to pat myself on the back


What else did they do for you? (grin)

[Jimmie Higgins]

Can we all just agree that water is reformist and counter-revolutionary?