Centenary of the Russian Revolution (SPGB)

[The Idler]

The SPGB have published Centenary of the Russian Revolution available to buy here;
http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/catalog/books/centenary-russian-revolution

(http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/catalog/books/centenary-russian-revolution)
Over the course of the past one hundred years the Socialist Party has argued against the view that the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia in October 1917 was a positive chapter in the struggle to replace capitalism with socialism. It has argued, on the contrary, that the success of the Bolshevik Revolution was a disaster for the cause of socialism. Rather than aiding the political progress of socialism, it distorted its aims and purpose and so retarded its development.

Indeed, the Bolshevik revolution continues to sow political confusion today, and this publication continues our efforts to help our fellow workers see this episode in history from the socialist perspective. Tracing the response of the Socialist Party from its first reactions to the Revolution to the demise of the Soviet Union and its empire over seventy years later, this book reprints (with only minor spelling and typographical corrections) articles from our journal, the Socialist Standard.

It details the socialist rejoinder to Bolshevism and the development of our criticism of Leninism and the Soviet state as its influence spread around the world, eventually becoming a state-capitalist superpower contending for power and profit with the most advanced of the private-capitalist states.

[ckaihatsu]

I think this bad-ultra-leftist critique is *premature* on the historical timeline:





Antiwar demonstrations[edit]

In a diplomatic note of 1 May, the minister of foreign affairs, Pavel Milyukov, expressed the Provisional Government's desire to continue the war against the Central Powers "to a victorious conclusion", arousing broad indignation. On 1–4 May, about 100,000 workers and soldiers of Petrograd, and after them the workers and soldiers of other cities, led by the Bolsheviks, demonstrated under banners reading "Down with the war!" and "all power to the soviets!" The mass demonstrations resulted in a crisis for the Provisional Government.[9] 1 July saw more demonstrations, as about 500,000 workers and soldiers in Petrograd demonstrated, again demanding "all power to the soviets", "down with the war", and "down with the ten capitalist ministers". The Provisional Government opened an offensive against the Central Powers on 1 July, which soon collapsed. The news of the offensive and its collapse intensified the struggle of the workers and the soldiers. A new crisis in the Provisional Government began on 15 July.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Revolution

[The Idler]

I'm gonna take a guess and say you haven't read it.

[GiantMonkeyMan]

I like reading a variety of pieces on the October Revolution and I've read a lot of anti-communist stuff on the subject so I wouldn't mind reading it but I don't think I want to pay eight quid for something that probably recycles arguments I've read before. Is there a free version or a sample?

[ckaihatsu]

I'm gonna take a guess and say you haven't read it.


No, but feel free to excerpt it here and make arguments. My points and position still stand.

[The Idler]

Have a look here
http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/forum/world-socialist-movement/centenary-russian-revolution?page=2#comment-43912

[ckaihatsu]

Have a look here
http://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/forum/world-socialist-movement/centenary-russian-revolution?page=2#comment-43912


You're being impersonal, vague, and probably sectarian. Just make your own point(s) for whatever post(s) on *this* discussion board -- it's a matter of good etiquette.

[The Idler]

You're being impersonal, vague, and probably sectarian. Just make your own point(s) for whatever post(s) on *this* discussion board -- it's a matter of good etiquette.

You called it bad ultra leftist and premature without even reading it.

[BIXX]

You're being impersonal, vague, and probably sectarian. Just make your own point(s) for whatever post(s) on *this* discussion board -- it's a matter of good etiquette.
You're one to talk.

[redshrewsbury]

The SPGB have got most things wrong over the years, this included. The Revolution pushed on the war against capitalism and led to socialist revolts around the globe. It was a Good Thing (as 1066 and all that would say).

[The Idler]

Not a very promising first post.

[ckaihatsu]

You called it bad ultra leftist and premature without even reading it.


You've been sidestepping.

On *this* discussion board the way to facilitate participation and discussion is to *make your point*, without requiring open-ended reading from others.

I'm saying this myself, and not from my capacity as an admin.

My post at #2 was in response to your OP, and all you've done is evade.