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Die Neue Zeit
27th October 2017, 02:59
I've stated before and again that There Is No Alternative to the pre-WWI SPD model for left politics and organizing the "alternative culture."
Well, look at a historic enemy par excellence of the left:
Bowling for Fascism: Social Capital and the Rise of the Nazi Party (http://www.nber.org/papers/w19201)
We collect new data on the density of associations in 229 German towns and cities. Denser networks of clubs and societies went hand-in-hand with a more rapid rise of the Nazi Party. Towns with one standard deviation higher association density saw at least 15% faster Nazi Party entry.
GiantMonkeyMan
27th October 2017, 10:56
Honestly curious, if the pre-WW1 SPD model was so good, why did half of the party end up supporting imperialist war? The moment there was crises, it seemed that the SPD floundered.
The Idler
31st October 2017, 22:14
There are always alternatives. There is no alternative (TINA) is a deeply reactionary unscientific approach to organising. There were good things about the pre-WWI SPD, their differences from the Bolshevik model in particular.
Die Neue Zeit
3rd November 2017, 04:41
Honestly curious, if the pre-WW1 SPD model was so good, why did half of the party end up supporting imperialist war? The moment there was crises, it seemed that the SPD floundered.
There was a really bad decision in the Mannheim Congress of 1906 that let the trade unions have veto power over party decisions. Secretly, the SPD became more like the UK Labour Party, a party "based on the trade unions," than its "continental party" origins (i.e., a thoroughly left party that is based purely on membership).
Lots of tred-iunionisty were social-chauvinists who backed the war.
GiantMonkeyMan
3rd November 2017, 12:57
There was a really bad decision in the Mannheim Congress of 1906 that let the trade unions have veto power over party decisions. Secretly, the SPD became more like the UK Labour Party, a party "based on the trade unions," than its "continental party" origins (i.e., a thoroughly left party that is based purely on membership).
Lots of tred-iunionisty were social-chauvinists who backed the war.
Yes, I know the the failures of the trade union bureaucrats - half the so-called revolutionary syndicalists ended up supporting the war in their individual countries. But that doesn't explain the parliamentary SPD voting for war credits or expelling the anti-war membership. Did the trade unions truly have such power over the party?
Die Neue Zeit
5th November 2017, 21:57
Yes, I know the the failures of the trade union bureaucrats - half the so-called revolutionary syndicalists ended up supporting the war in their individual countries. But that doesn't explain the parliamentary SPD voting for war credits or expelling the anti-war membership. Did the trade unions truly have such power over the party?
Unfortunately, yes. The notorious Friedrich Ebert had a tred-iunionisty background.
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