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Scottish_Militant
25th February 2004, 18:20
http://www.marxist.com/Latinam/venezuela_s..._statement.html (http://www.marxist.com/Latinam/venezuela_statement.html)

Faced with increasing US imperialist intervention and the threat of a new counter-revolutionary offensive:

The Venezuelan Revolution must advance towards socialism in order to defeat reaction.

In the last few days the campaign of provocations and pressure on the part of US imperialism against the revolutionary process in Venezuela has intensified. Leading US administration spokespersons have made statements, putting pressure on the National Electoral Council (NEC) to rule in favour of the opposition in their effort to call a presidential recall referendum. The Venezuelan government has denounced publicly this growing foreign intervention. Evidence has also been uncovered that the opposition organisation which coordinated the collection of the signatures, SUMATE, has received funding from the US National Endowment for Democracy, together with a whole host of other opposition organisations (details can be found on the website www.venezuelafoia.info/ )

The reactionaries clearly will not recognise an NEC ruling against the validity of the signatures they allegedly collected. There have been widespread allegations of fraudulent manoeuvres during the collection of the signatures by the opposition, including thousands of collection sheets where all the signatures had been written in the same handwriting.

We denounce this campaign as a new attempt to overthrow the Chavez government and put an end to the revolutionary process that has opened in Venezuela.

Imperialism and the local ruling elite cannot tolerate the situation as it stands any longer. They cannot tolerate a government that increases investment in health and education, refuses to privatise publicly-owned companies and utilities, opposes the Free Trade of the Americas Agreement, reasserts the nationalised character of the oil industry, etc. Above all they cannot tolerate the process of mass organisation and politicisation that has taken place in the country. On two occasions the revolutionary movement of the Venezuelan masses has defeated the plans of imperialism and the local oligarchy, when they organised their coup in April 11, 2002 and during the oil sabotage and bosses’ lock out of December 2002-January 2003.

But the danger of a reactionary coup has not completely disappeared. The local oligarchy and imperialism will try again and again to put an end to the revolutionary process. Even though their forces are now weaker, more divided and demoralised, there is no room for complacency.

The only way for to safeguard the revolutionary process is to strengthen it and to move forward. Those who organised the coup and the oil sabotage are still free or in exile. They must be brought to justice. But the justice system is still firmly in the hands of reaction. This was clearly shown when the Supreme Court of Justice ruled that there had been no coup in April 2002 but just a “power vacuum”. The old reactionary justice system must be disbanded and the principle of the popular election of the judges must be established as the only guarantee of a fair justice system that defends the masses and not the rich.

The Venezuelan oligarchy and multinational companies still have a firm grip over the mass media, private industry and the banking system. They use their ownership of these key levers in society in order to sabotage the will of the majority and plot another reactionary coup. They must be nationalised and put under the democratic control of the workers and the people. These resources must be used to satisfy the needs of the majority as a part of a democratic plan of the economy.

Though the oil sabotage was defeated through the direct action of the oil workers who took control (together with the local communities and the national guard) of the oil industry, the same bureaucratic structures are still largely in place in the state-owned oil company, PDVSA. This must be put under democratic workers’ control and management as the only way to prevent the emergence of a new bureaucracy running the industry in their own interests.

Though many reactionary army officers left the Army when they declared themselves to be in rebellion, many are still active within the army, and the traditional bourgeois structure of the Army remains largely intact. The only guarantee that the army will not be used against the people is through the setting up of committees of soldiers and revolutionary officers and for these to be linked to the revolutionary organisations of the workers and the people that already exist outside the army.

The Ministries and the state apparatus in general are full of reactionaries who constantly sabotage the revolutionary process. These capitalist institutions must be done away with and replaced by the popular election of all public officials with the right of recall, and for those to be on a wage not higher than that of a skilled worker.

The revolutionary movement of the workers and the people has shown again and again its willingness to fight reaction. But revolutionary organisations are still small, divided and dispersed. They need to be united on the basis of revolutionary assemblies and revolutionary defence committees in all working class neighbourhoods, factories, schools, and villages, where all revolutionary political tendencies are free to put forward their views and these are democratically discussed. These committees need to be linked up at local, state and national level on the basis of democratically elected representatives with the right of recall. Only through democratic debate can the revolutionary movement achieve the necessary unity.

These measures, if implemented, would amount to the beginning of a movement towards socialism. This is really the only way in which the future of the revolutionary process can be assured. Some will say that implementing these measures would be a provocation for US imperialism and would lead to military intervention. But in fact US imperialism and the local oligarchy do not need any further “provocation”, they have already been plotting and intervening against the revolutionary process from the very beginning. The only way to prevent or defeat an imperialist intervention would be to make an appeal to the workers and peasants in the rest of Latin America and to the US workers themselves to follow the same road as the Venezuelan people and take the future into their own hands. A socialist revolution in Venezuela with a clear internationalist appeal would prove to be a powerful pole of attraction for the masses of workers and peasants throughout the continent that have already started to move in countries like Argentina, Ecuador, Bolivia, the Dominican Republic, etc. Spreading the revolution would be the only way to safeguard it.

No to US intervention in Venezuela!
Defend the Venezuelan revolution!
Forward to Socialism!

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LuZhiming
25th February 2004, 21:21
This sort of nonsense is only going to make U.S. rhetoric against Chavez more believable.

Scottish_Militant
25th February 2004, 21:31
what do you mean?

LuZhiming
25th February 2004, 21:33
Originally posted by [email protected] 25 2004, 10:31 PM
what do you mean?
The more people present Venezuela as some sort of Socialist nation, the closer it comes to being Cuba, therefore the close it is to being able to easily portray to U.S. citizens as an evil regime.

Fact: Venezuela is Capitalist

Scottish_Militant
25th February 2004, 21:39
If you had read what I posted you would be aware that it has not claimed otherwise ;)

The article is putting forward the case for socialist revolution, surely that is not a crime? Surely that is the very basics of Marxism or revolutionary socialism?

LuZhiming
26th February 2004, 05:35
If you had read what I posted you would be aware that it has not claimed otherwise ;)

Perhaps I misunderstood it, but it looked to me as if it was referring to Chavez's reforms as a Socialist Revolution.


The article is putting forward the case for socialist revolution, surely that is not a crime? Surely that is the very basics of Marxism or revolutionary socialism?

It isn't a crime. But I doubt Chavez is any sort of Marxist.

Scottish_Militant
26th February 2004, 06:28
Again thats not the case, the article defends Chaves against US imperialism and against the coup but has no illusions in him as a Marxist. There are more good venezuela articles here

http://www.marxist.com/venezuela.asp

nextamericanrev
6th April 2004, 16:59
i am aware this is an old post...i just see that you are very active in your defence of venezuelan president chavez....but i'm curious as to if you know about the actual situation in venezuala since chavez has been in office....such as taking jobs away from qualified plant operators and putting the jobs in the hands of his party supporters as well as controlling t.v. networks to make sure no antigovernment propaganda is put out. i am a socialist and would love to see socialist revolutions start around the world....however i am always disturbed when people use socialism as a means to gaining the power of the underclass and then reeping the benefits for themselves....as in chavez's case....chavez is not a true socialist....he took alot from the middle class and gave to the poor , but now is not even looking after the thousands of venezuelan's who are jobless due to his policies....my girlfriend is from punto fijo and her dad was a worker at one of the oil plants in venezuela (not very well off) when chavez came into power they were forced into poverty without any benefits from the government (that doesn't sound like socialism to me) she now lives here in the states. i guess the point im trying to make is that we SHOULD support all forms of socialist revolution but we need to make sure first that they are for the right reason.....and i do agree with you on the american imperialism i believe that the US is trying to use this as a way of interfering with democracy.....however on the flipside chavez shouldn't try to oppress the democracy that comes in the form of the pettition....i hope you know im not attacking you comrade....im just curious as to how much you know about the current situation in venezuela from someone who grew up and lived there...

Louis Pio
6th April 2004, 18:43
such as taking jobs away from qualified plant operators and putting the jobs in the hands of his party supporters

Many of these people supported the coup. In my oppinion they should have been put in jail but unfortunately Chavez is soft. They have even gone as far as sabotaging the production.


as well as controlling t.v. networks to make sure no antigovernment propaganda is put out.

Actually most of the media in Venezuela is anti-chavez. Which is not strange since they are backed by the rich. As far as I know. The only nationwide station not against Chavez is the statechannel.


however on the flipside chavez shouldn't try to oppress the democracy that comes in the form of the pettition

You know the only reason they could have this petition is because the Chavez government made the law. The opposition was against it at that time. A venezuelan comrade of mine told me how the opposition was even getting meantal ill people to sign it. Everybody, even the opposition supporters, know that a very large part of the signatures were fake. They even confessed that in a secretly taped telephone conversation. The journalist who taped it is know getting sued by the "democratic" opposition.


he took alot from the middle class and gave to the poor , but now is not even looking after the thousands of venezuelan's who are jobless due to his policies

Yes Chavez should indeed break with capitalism. There is no room for reforms and a good life under capitalism. Especially not now. But 70% of the venezuelan population can be described as poor. Which is of course why they support Chavez.

Louis Pio
6th April 2004, 19:11
Btw why is it that Chavez is described as a dictator when he hasn't even put most coup supportes on trial? While the opposition is described as democratic when they hunt Chavez supporters while armed with guns? A comrade of mine tried that during the coup. The opposition even use guns against demonstrations, also from the pictures they provide, they are obviously well off. You only see people with jewelry and nice clothes at the anti-chavez demonstrations. I don't know bout you but my sympathy is with the workers and poor. Not the rich or middleclass elements claiming Chavez is "taking their bread away" while wearing gold. Rich people always whine when their loot is taken from them.