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Agent provocateur
24th February 2004, 21:22
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Half of Young Americans to Get Sex Diseases -Study
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By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Correspondent

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Half of all young Americans will get a sexually transmitted disease by the age of 25, perhaps because they are ignorant about protection or embarrassed to ask for it, according to several reports issued on Tuesday.



The reports, publicized by two nonprofit sexual and youth health groups, said there were 9 million new cases of STD among teens and young adults aged 15 to 24 in 2000.


They said the U.S. government's policy of preferring abstinence-only education would only increase those rates.


"For the 27 million young Americans under the age of 25 who have had sex, the stakes are simply too high to talk only about abstinence," James Wagoner, president of Advocates for Youth, said in a statement.


"Given the prevalence of STDs, young people need all the facts -- including medically accurate information on condoms."


The reports, released jointly by Advocates for Youth -- a nonprofit group advocating for sex education, and the sexual health-oriented Alan Guttmacher Institute, pull together information from several different publications.


They include a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (news - web sites) report in the latest issue of the journal Perspectives on Sexual and Reproductive Health, and a University of North Carolina report based on interviews with teens and young adults.


"Approximately 18.9 million new cases of STD occurred in 2000, of which 9.1 million (48 percent) were among persons aged 15 to 24," the CDC report reads.


It said three diseases -- human papillomavirus or genital wart virus, a parasitic infection called trichomoniasis and chlamydia -- accounted for 88 percent of all new cases of STDs in 15- to 24-year-olds. Wart virus is the major cause of cervical cancer while chlamydia can cause infertility.


POTENTIAL CAUSES


The CDC report did not comment on potential causes, but the Guttmacher Institute did.


"It is not surprising that teens and young adults contract a disproportionate number of infections," said Guttmacher's Sharon Camp. "Most young people are sexually active, and many are ill equipped to prevent STDs or seek testing and treatment."


She said sex education that includes information on condoms is vital to preventing STDs.


"Although abstaining from sexual activity is guaranteed to prevent STDs, some adolescents and virtually all young adults will eventually choose to have sex," Camp said.


"Before they do, they need realistic sex education that teaches them how to prevent STDs and unwanted pregnancies. It is essential to have medically accurate information about condoms and other contraceptive methods, and guidance on how to access appropriate prevention, testing and treatment services."


Teens 15 and older who have had sex have the highest STD rates of any age group in the country, and the United States has the highest STD rate of any industrialized country, according to CDC and World Health Organization (news - web sites) figures.


The University of North Carolina report attacked federal policies that encourage abstinence-only education.


"Abstinence is, of course, the only 100 percent effective prevention strategy," Shawn Carney, a 17-year-old member of the UNC youth panel, said in a statement.

"But with 70 percent of young people having sex by the age of 18, we need to hear about more than abstinence. We need to know how to prevent STDs when we do have sex later in life."

Saint-Just
25th February 2004, 10:01
Its a problem with U.S. culture, people having sex without much thought about it. The media and their culture encourages it there. Its in the music videos, the lyrics, magazines, sitcoms etc.

One of the most morally corrupt programmes I have ever seen is Friends. And rap music also promotes having sex without any care.

praxis1966
25th February 2004, 10:27
Blah blah blah. More neo-puritanical hogwash. The reality of the situation is that many young people in this country, to the tune of 60%, will have had at least one sexual encounter by the age of 16. It is niether logical nor pragmatic to preach abstinence and abstinence alone in schools.

From what I can tell, the current programs in schools are the best we have. When I was there, my high school had a program in which they tought that abstinence was preferrable but also explained the proper use of various forms of contraception. They discussed the benefits and shortfalls of each, as well as efficacies. As far as I'm concerned, if you eliminate this type of education and leave only room for abstinence lectures, future generations of young people will only be more ignorant than the ones that came before them. This can and will only result in higher rates of sexually transmitted diseases and unwanted pregnancies.

This is a prime example of why I do not believe in legislating morality. It in no way whatever counteracts amoral behavior and only serves to compound the problem. Take Africa for example. That continent is one of the most sexually repressed places on earth. Legislation in many countries there will not even allow the use of the word "sex" in sexual education classes. Yet for some reason, one in three African adults is HIV positive. This is far and away the highest rate of infection in the entire world.

Oh, and by the way Mao, the last time I checked, the rap lyrics you disdain so much are quite popular in your homeland of the U.K. This is to say nothing of the fact that there is just as much if not more sex and violence on English television than can be found in the United $tates.

Fidel Castro
25th February 2004, 14:19
The culture over here in the UK is pretty much the same as in the US now in terms of our attitudes towards sex.

American imports are very popular here in the UK. TV shows like Friends (ugh) and Sex in the City spring to mind, and all of these shows basically promote a very liberal view of sex. American music and films also sometimes promote this same view, e.g American Pie :lol:

However, UK TV, Films and Music are taking a similar stance, just watch shows like Temptation Island, Club Reps and even UK soap opera's (UGH!).

I'm not suggesting that we should avoid being open about sexual matters, but perhaps when you have certain shows giving an impression that, basically, promiscuity is glamerous, then it isn't helping matters at all.

How can we fight STD's? Contraceptives should be made cheaper, and more widely available (Unless you know where to go in Edinburgh, a pack of condoms is around £3 for two), and also, I don't know about others here, but I found that school education on STD's was kept to a minimum.

We can never eradicate STD's and prevent certain idiots from insisting that unprotected sex with a stranger is fine. All we can do really is try to promote safety as much as possible, through TV advertising, easy access to contraceptives and encouraging the next generation to be more open, aware and educated on sexual health matters. Research into cures and new methods of prevention for STDs should also continue to be researched.

setumismo
4th March 2004, 04:55
one problem is that the education given on STDs is given at a time when the majority of young people arent having sex (ages 14, 15) and not anything at the ages of 17 and 18 when more people are sexually active. also, the information isnt comprehensive, as some STD's can be spread through oral sex (ex. herpes), but that is not well known...

UnionofSovietSocialistRepublics
4th March 2004, 14:45
I would agree it is a problem of our culture, where sex (with many different people, if possible) is oh so fashionable. I dont really think giving out more contraception-either subsidised or free is totally great as it means people can sleep around, and will get used to doing so, until one day they run out and will go unprotected as promiscuity has become second nature to them. I think the way forward is education, starting at a fairly young age (maybe 10 or 11), where sex should be introduced as somethin people do when in love, and progressed upon well into their teens when they are tought the more explicit details.

iloveatomickitten
4th March 2004, 20:47
promiscuity has become second nature to them

Promiscuity is first nature it is only through centuries of religious thought has it become frowned upon and second nature.

Michael De Panama
6th March 2004, 22:42
I can't believe how conservative some of you are.

How is the glorification of sex a "problem"?

Aside from human beings, dolphins are the only animal that has sex simply for pleasure. Coincidentally, dolphins are the second most intelligent animal on the planet. To abstain from our sexual nature as human beings is counterprogressive to our evolution as a species.

Casual, meaningless sex is one of the greatest things in the world.

If you don't believe me, try it out.

The more sex going on, the better.

The last thing society needs is some totalitarian machine trying to prevent people from carrying out their natural desires.

MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr
7th March 2004, 00:14
Well, if you were REALLY serious about trying to contain the STD epidemic, then you would education, provide contraceptives, AND place infected persons in quarentine.

Michael De Panama
7th March 2004, 00:18
Originally posted by [email protected] 6 2004, 08:14 PM
Well, if you were REALLY serious about trying to contain the STD epidemic, then you would education, provide contraceptives, AND place infected persons in quarentine.
...and then burn them all alive.

IPkurd
7th March 2004, 01:08
how about no one has sex until there married taht will solve the probelm but create a new 1, we will stop evolving as a species like what michael said....

hobosexual
7th March 2004, 02:26
I can't believe how conservative some of you are.

How is the glorification of sex a "problem"?

Aside from human beings, dolphins are the only animal that has sex simply for pleasure. Coincidentally, dolphins are the second most intelligent animal on the planet. To abstain from our sexual nature as human beings is counterprogressive to our evolution as a species.

Casual, meaningless sex is one of the greatest things in the world.

If you don't believe me, try it out.

The more sex going on, the better.

The last thing society needs is some totalitarian machine trying to prevent people from carrying out their natural desires.

the overpopulation of the world is already great enough without every idiot with a sex organ fuckin the first person they see.


how about no one has sex until there married taht will solve the probelm but create a new 1, we will stop evolving as a species like what michael said....

yea.. the way ppl are starting to evolve i don't think that would be such a problem. it really does seem like we are goin in reverse. sex until your married.. ya that's the last thing i wanna do. spill my heart out to some ***** then the day we get married go to bed and find out she is horrible in bed or she does have some strange sexual disease. sure, i guess marrage can be a beautiful thing but to me it sounds like mental slavery.

Michael De Panama
7th March 2004, 02:58
how about no one has sex until there married taht will solve the probelm but create a new 1, we will stop evolving as a species like what michael said....
People who save sex for marriage really blow my mind. Why would anyone promise to spend their entire sex life devoted to a person who they could potentially be completely sexually incompatible with?

You don't fully understand your partner until you have had sex with them. There's no way around it.

There will always be people out there willing to gamble on the "sex before marriage" thing, but it seems like most of these relationships end up bitter and loveless in the long run.

the overpopulation of the world is already great enough without every idiot with a sex organ fuckin the first person they see.
There's a very simple solution to the problem of overpopulation: STD's.

There's a natural balance to the world.

No matter how many people you fuck, everything will come to order in the long run.

So, I say, fuck everyone you can.

revolutionindia
7th March 2004, 15:25
Originally posted by Chairman [email protected] 25 2004, 04:31 PM
Its a problem with U.S. culture, people having sex without much thought about it. The media and their culture encourages it there. Its in the music videos, the lyrics, magazines, sitcoms etc.

One of the most morally corrupt programmes I have ever seen is Friends. And rap music also promotes having sex without any care.
I totally agree with chairman mao especially about friends

Some facts about friends(the movie series)

1.Everybody is sleeping with somebody all the time.

2.They act hyper and abnormal all the time.

3.phoebe(character in serial) agrees to carry here brothers child (sic)since her
brothers girlfriend is infertile.

In India friends is popular in urban areas and people try to copy them and it ususally tends in disasterous consequences.

Americans are doomed their seeds of their destruction were sown long ago by them.
The decline in moral standards is but inevitable.

americans are having sex like animals and with animals(sic)(available on the internet legally)

Today people can marry people from the same sex in america tomorow people can marry animals and at night when your neighbours dog is barking you will not know if it is barking at the moon or your neighbour having sex with his wife.


Americans will take the defination of sick to a new level and dictionarys all over the world will have to revise their editions.
So do not buy dictionaries for sometime and wait for the new edition to come.Believe me its coming soon

IPkurd
7th March 2004, 17:38
well i for 1 would only want to marry a virigin......its in our culture anyway i woundnt use some1 elses toothbrush or use someone else toilet paper afta they have used it so i wouldnt want a woman thats been fucked before.
that no offense ppl.....i dnt think boy or men can stadn this and they dont in our traditions, i will have sex with other people e.g. english rather then kurdish/turkish girl

SittingBull47
8th March 2004, 14:54
well, the only thing to do about it is to warn teens and educate. It sucks that STD's are on the rise (gotta be careful) but it's not like anybody's going to ban sex.

UnionofSovietSocialistRepublics
8th March 2004, 15:06
Originally posted by [email protected] 7 2004, 04:25 PM


Today people can marry people from the same sex in america tomorow people can marry animals and at night when your neighbours dog is barking you will not know if it is barking at the moon or your neighbour having sex with his wife.


I, and probably a good few people ont his forum would disagree with your views on same sex marriage, I think its fine, UNLIKE marrying an animal which i would agree is just silly.
IPKurd i STRONGLY disagree with what youre saying, you would only marry a virgin, yet you yourself wouldnt have to be one? I think thats very sexist double standards and probably not welcome on any left wing board.

revolutionindia
8th March 2004, 15:59
Originally posted by El Marko+Mar 8 2004, 09:36 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (El Marko @ Mar 8 2004, 09:36 PM)
[email protected] 7 2004, 04:25 PM


Today people can marry people from the same sex in america tomorow people can marry animals and at night when your neighbours dog is barking you will not know if it is barking at the moon or your neighbour having sex with his wife.


I, and probably a good few people ont his forum would disagree with your views on same sex marriage, I think its fine, UNLIKE marrying an animal which i would agree is just silly.
IPKurd i STRONGLY disagree with what youre saying, you would only marry a virgin, yet you yourself wouldnt have to be one? I think thats very sexist double standards and probably not welcome on any left wing board.[/b]
good that we have our differences

Now let me explain to you something about
brotherhood among men
this means a feeling of oneness involving
mutual support and trust
among men.Where men stand together for each other.
I hope u are getting what i mean
Gays are a threat to universal brotherhood.

Now when i was a kid gay meant being happy
when i grew i realised i got to know its real meaning

Now man tell me how can i feel brotherhood for
people who are sexualy attracted to me .
I would find it repulsive

Not only that encounters with gays would also change my
attitude towards normal guys and in the end this feeling of
brotherhood is gone.

Gays are a mutation.
There are various reasons for people becoming gay
like bad parenting
&#39;hormonal imbalances etc
but its not natural


sorry but for lack of time
i can not elaborate but hope u get my point

Michael De Panama
8th March 2004, 20:12
Americans are doomed their seeds of their destruction were sown long ago by them.
The decline in moral standards is but inevitable.
Who are you? Bill O&#39;Reilly?

This has nothing to do with America. It has nothing to do with morality. There is nothing morally wrong with our purest instinctual nature. This is about humanity.

americans are having sex like animals and with animals(sic)(available on the internet legally)
Repeating myself, humans and dolphins are the only two animals that have sex simply for pleasure.

well i for 1 would only want to marry a virigin......its in our culture anyway i woundnt use some1 elses toothbrush or use someone else toilet paper afta they have used it so i wouldnt want a woman thats been fucked before.
that no offense ppl.....i dnt think boy or men can stadn this and they dont in our traditions, i will have sex with other people e.g. english rather then kurdish/turkish girl
Jesus, man.

So, you have no problem having sex before marriage but would only marry a virgin? That&#39;s as sexist as you can get.

Sex with a non-virgin isn&#39;t anything close to using someone else&#39;s toothbrush, unless you consider sex to be something dirty and offensive, or you&#39;re just an anal retentive virgin yourself. Sex is something beautiful.

Also, the more experience a girl has, the better the sex usually is. The more sexual experience you have with a girl, the better you know her. The more experience she has, the better she knows herself.

IPkurd
8th March 2004, 21:30
Michael De Panama

how do you know a girl is better to have sex the more she has it? r u a girl...no, i dont think sex iis dirty but its just the way our culture is and the way i grow up.....i dnt expect any english gal to keep her virginity till she marrys because that not there culture (any more) i just wouldnt want to have sex with the same woman for years when shes been rinsed out by a couple of men maybe more.. i dont really care if you think thats sexist

Michael De Panama
8th March 2004, 22:36
how do you know a girl is better to have sex the more she has it? r u a girl...
Because I&#39;ve had sex enough to know that virgins, plain and simple, don&#39;t know what the fuck they&#39;re doing. They may be a tighter fit, but, unless you&#39;re a total dick, you have to be very gentle with them the first few times, making it a lot less enjoyable. Beyond that, they don&#39;t know how their bodies work, what gets them off, how hard they like it, etc.

no, i dont think sex iis dirty but its just the way our culture is and the way i grow up.....
Describing a girl getting deflowered as being "rinsed out" would make anyone believe you consider sex as something dirty, and don&#39;t have a whole lot of respect for women.

i just wouldnt want to have sex with the same woman for years when shes been rinsed out by a couple of men maybe more..
As I&#39;ve already said, in marriages like this, there&#39;s a huge potential for you two to be completely sexually incompatible. Wouldn&#39;t you rather make sure you&#39;ll actually enjoy the sex, rather than make sure you&#39;re the one who broke her in?

i dont really care if you think thats sexist
You&#39;re right not to care what I think, but most girls would also consider your position as sexist and, unless you change that attitude of yours, I guarantee you you&#39;ll be getting no pussy in the near future.

IPkurd
9th March 2004, 13:29
it is true that you have to be gentle firt few times yes, but after that you dont do you. anyway if a girl has sex with a husband then over time she&#39;ll learn about her body wouldn&#39;t she? maybe they might want a bigger penis or smaller but the man could learn to work his thing better aswell.
about the incompatible thing....its not like a dick is software and wont work on some systems(pussy&#39;s) you gotta change the way you do it to benefit u and ur partner, maybe you think this because you havn&#39;t been with someone for a long time and been with alot of people without getting to really know the girls

and my attitude gets me the pussy i require, im no wild animal always fucking

redstar2000
9th March 2004, 13:34
...but perhaps when you have certain shows giving an impression that, basically, promiscuity is glamourous, then it isn&#39;t helping matters at all.

Well it is, isn&#39;t it? More glamorous than monogamy or abstinence, I mean.

Of course, "glamour" is a rather tenuous attribute...but are there any people who would not escape the tedium of everyday life if they could?

Aside from "Chairman Mao", I mean. :lol:


I would agree it is a problem of our culture, where sex (with many different people, if possible) is oh, so fashionable.

I don&#39;t think "fashionable" is quite the right word here. Sex with many partners is more interesting than sex with one partner or none.

If there is one enemy that humanity has in common, it&#39;s boredom.


Americans are doomed; the seeds of their destruction were sown long ago by them.
The decline in moral standards is but inevitable.

:lol:


Well, I for one would only want to marry a virgin......it&#39;s in our culture anyway.

Here&#39;s a useful hint: check the sheets after the first night to see if they are bloody.

Here&#39;s another: whenever you want to say something really stupid, say "it&#39;s part of my culture" and you might get away with it.


Gays are a threat to universal brotherhood.

Yeah, just when you&#39;re feeling all brotherly, they grab your dick. :lol:


I just wouldn&#39;t want to have sex with the same woman for years when she&#39;s been rinsed out by a couple of men, maybe more...

Rinsed out? What a charming way to put it.

----------------------

Curiously, no one raised the obvious question. Of all these sexually-transmitted diseases, what&#39;s the cure rate?

And if the cure rate is really high, then what&#39;s the problem?

:redstar2000:

The Redstar2000 Papers (http://www.redstar2000papers.vze.com)
A site about communist ideas

Invader Zim
9th March 2004, 14:04
Originally posted by revolutionindia+Mar 8 2004, 04:59 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (revolutionindia @ Mar 8 2004, 04:59 PM)
Originally posted by El [email protected] 8 2004, 09:36 PM

[email protected] 7 2004, 04:25 PM


Today people can marry people from the same sex in america tomorow people can marry animals and at night when your neighbours dog is barking you will not know if it is barking at the moon or your neighbour having sex with his wife.


I, and probably a good few people ont his forum would disagree with your views on same sex marriage, I think its fine, UNLIKE marrying an animal which i would agree is just silly.
IPKurd i STRONGLY disagree with what youre saying, you would only marry a virgin, yet you yourself wouldnt have to be one? I think thats very sexist double standards and probably not welcome on any left wing board.
good that we have our differences

Now let me explain to you something about
brotherhood among men
this means a feeling of oneness involving
mutual support and trust
among men.Where men stand together for each other.
I hope u are getting what i mean
Gays are a threat to universal brotherhood.

Now when i was a kid gay meant being happy
when i grew i realised i got to know its real meaning

Now man tell me how can i feel brotherhood for
people who are sexualy attracted to me .
I would find it repulsive

Not only that encounters with gays would also change my
attitude towards normal guys and in the end this feeling of
brotherhood is gone.

Gays are a mutation.
There are various reasons for people becoming gay
like bad parenting
&#39;hormonal imbalances etc
but its not natural


sorry but for lack of time
i can not elaborate but hope u get my point [/b]
What the Fuck?&#33;

Gays are a threat to universal brotherhood.


No bigoted wankers are a are a threat to universal brotherhood.

Now when i was a kid gay meant being happy
when i grew i realised i got to know its real meaning

Ohh I’m sorry who smashed your world view? It must have hurt seeing your naive views getting dismantled.

Now man tell me how can i feel brotherhood for
people who are sexualy attracted to me .

I don’t know about you but I would say that most people do not fancy assholes who insult them for their sexuality.

I would find it repulsive

I find bigots repulsive.

Not only that encounters with gays would also change my
attitude towards normal guys and in the end this feeling of
brotherhood is gone.

Define Normality.

Gays are a mutation.

What the fuck? You have to be kidding&#33; That like the most disgusting thing I’ve ever heard said on this message board. with the exception of when Nazi&#39;s come on and spew their foul shit.

Do you not like the disabled either, people with genetic problems? Infact do you dislike people with different hair colour from you as well, you realise that’s a mutation? Obviously not.

There are various reasons for people becoming gay
like bad parenting
&#39;hormonal imbalances etc
but its not natural

Well you just contradicted your self, if its a chemical imbalance then it is natural. And bad parenting? What fucked up bullshit is that, people from all kind of parental back grounds are gay.

i can not elaborate

Thank god.

but hope u get my point

Yeah I sure do, your a homophobe.

IPkurd
9th March 2004, 15:17
redstar2000

how is wanting to marry a virgin stupid? how is my culture stupid?
cant you except someone elses culture redstar, do u find what we do dirty and not normal, do u have the urge of hanging me from a tree just because of my culture

fucking dickhead u sound racist, nonexcepting of any culture traditions is rascsit in ma book

and rinsing out is just slang

redstar2000
9th March 2004, 23:15
How is wanting to marry a virgin stupid?

Well, since you asked, I don&#39;t think getting married to anyone is a real smart thing to do.

Think about it: you&#39;re asking a government or a religion or both to approve of your particular relationship with another person.

How is it that those two institutions -- both with oceans of blood on their hands -- are "qualified" to approve anyone&#39;s relationship?

Seeking the approval of a bureaucratic lackey or a clerical con-man to care for another person is absurd on its face...what the hell would those scum know about human affection?

It is particularly stupid to make a fuss over virginity because virginity has nothing to do with the quality of your relationship with a woman.

It&#39;s as stupid as saying "I won&#39;t marry her unless she weighs exactly 46.8 kilograms" or "I won&#39;t marry her unless she has a small mole on her left thigh", etc., etc.


How is my culture stupid?

Any culture that makes a big fuss (or any fuss) over female virginity is stupid, by definition.


Can&#39;t you accept someone else&#39;s culture, redstar?

Why should I? I don&#39;t "accept" my own.

All existing "cultures" are products of class society...and I don&#39;t accept that&#33;

So whenever I see someone say something stupid and "blame it on their culture", I immediately recognize that here is an individual that excuses his own failure to think rationally...and not be "stupid".


Do you have the urge of hanging me from a tree just because of my culture?

No, I have the urge to get you to see that "cultural reasons" for doing or not doing anything are stupid.

Try thinking for yourself instead of just swallowing any shit that your "culture" wants to feed you.


Fucking dickhead, you sound racist; non-acceptance of any cultural traditions is racist in my book.

A book written by a semi-literate moron.

Get a better book.

:redstar2000:

The Redstar2000 Papers (http://www.redstar2000papers.vze.com)
A site about communist ideas

IPkurd
9th March 2004, 23:31
it more about what i want, not about what my culture "feeds me"

Red Guard
10th March 2004, 01:45
*edit*

UnionofSovietSocialistRepublics
12th March 2004, 10:50
If you plan/planned to keep your "purity" until youre married and expect your future wife to do the same then that would be much more acceptable, I think your double standards are sickening.

Wot the hells with al the homophobic shit?

Why are you two (IPkurd & revolutionindia) on a leftist msg board when you clearly have right wing tendanices? I must say i think you both should be RESTRICTED to opposing ideologies for your offensive views.

IPkurd
12th March 2004, 13:41
yes, stop us from saying what we feel and think send us to the cold place known as opposing ideologies, you a dictator or something?