What's your political compass?

[Ibn.AL.Muqafaa]

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This is where I land, Economic: -2.38 Social:-6.77
I am extremely sure that most of us on this forum either land in the red or green quadrant.
However, I do think that the authoritarian questions are associated with traditionalist conservatives.
Share your results with us.
Thank you, in advance.

[IbelieveInanarchy]

maybe include a link

[Ibn.AL.Muqafaa]

maybe include a link
https://www.politicalcompass.org/

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[IbelieveInanarchy]

Economic Left/Right: -9.5
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-9.5&soc=-5.54

[Ibn.AL.Muqafaa]

As an Anarchist, Do u think:
Schools attendance should be mandatory?
The enemy of my enemy is my friend?
Prostitution is ethical?
Human Cloning is ethical?

[IbelieveInanarchy]

As an Anarchist, Do u think:
Schools attendance should be mandatory?
The enemy of my enemy is my friend?
Prostitution is ethical?
Human Cloning is ethical? in order of questions asked: 1,yes 2.yes partly, mainly when it is about liberals and communists together versus fascists. 3. I don't think a person who is a prostitute is doing something unethical, the person who buys their services most of the time is being unethical. 4. in general it seems unnecessary, i don't know if you can think of a situation where it seems to be unethical?

[Ibn.AL.Muqafaa]

in order of questions asked: 1,yes 2.yes partly, mainly when it is about liberals and communists together versus fascists. 3. I don't think a person who is a prostitute is doing something unethical, the person who buys their services most of the time is being unethical. 4. in general it seems unnecessary, i don't know if you can think of a situation where it seems to be unethical?
With respect to the cloning aspect, I think it's immoral when someone clones him/herself and exploits the clone knowing that it is concious and intelligent being.
But if it were made for medical reasons the clone should be unconscious and lacking feeling and intelligence.
I know it may sound too idealistic, but I am still learning about cloning.

[IbelieveInanarchy]

With respect to the cloning aspect, I think it's immoral when someone clones him/herself and exploits the clone knowing that it is concious and intelligent being.
But if it were made for medical reasons the clone should be unconscious and lacking feeling and intelligence.
I know it may sound too idealistic, but I am still learning about cloning. I don't know, is it immoral to make a baby? Is it immoral to donate sperm to a sperm bank or maybe ones egg cells to an 'egg bank'. Why is it moral to create a being which has only 50% of your dna, when you have regular sex. But then immoral to clone a being so it has 100% of your DNA?

Of course no one seriously thinks that making a clone to be your slave is ethical. The clone would have exactly the same rights as the 'original'.

[Ibn.AL.Muqafaa]

An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth?


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[John Nada]

Economic Left/Right:-10 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian:-7.85

WTF, IbelieveInanarchy? I'm supposed to be an "authoritarian" MLM!:laugh: Maybe I'm more Mao-Spontex (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao-Spontex)?:blushing:

I'm not sure about the usefulness of the Political Compass Test. It seems like basically any leftist, from anarchist to "Stalinist", ends up in the bottom left corner.

[GiantMonkeyMan]

Economic Left/Right:-10 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian:-7.85

WTF, IbelieveInanarchy? I'm supposed to be an "authoritarian" MLM!:laugh: Maybe I'm more Mao-Spontex (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao-Spontex)?:blushing:

I'm not sure about the usefulness of the Political Compass Test. It seems like basically any leftist, from anarchist to "Stalinist", ends up in the bottom left corner.
The questions are pretty flawed to say the least.

[John Nada]

The questions are pretty flawed to say the least.I know. Like the one party question, it could be you support it but don't think it has the advantage of expedience from avoiding debate, or oppose it but still think it'd be more effective. I answered that I support the death penalty(for violent reactionaries), don't mind tactically using my enemies' enemies to my advantage, think a revolutionary war might not have the approval of the UN Security Council, and for the fuck of it full support for a one-party state. End up more libertarian than a lot of anarchists.:confused: Like you pretty much have to be a complete asshole to get into the upper-left corner.

[willowtooth]

I tried to see if I could get into the far left authoritarian corner.

https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-10.0&soc=-5.28

and as you can I see I failed miserably. The test is really just for the anarcho capitalist ayn rand fascist crowd. As you can see they label the apartheid supporting, Hindu supremacist Ghandi as a far left anarchist radical. They label anyone who is against "the free market" on the left side. because as we all know the right wing never favors "gubbmint intervention the ecomoney" lol

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There have been a number of criticisms of the test, some of them mentioning the test's failure to take into account the political and cultural differences between America (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/America) and Europe (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Europe),[5] (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Political_Compass#cite_note-4) and noting large discrepancies between the scores actual people get on it and the scores posted for politicians and political parties.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Political_Compass

If that wasn't enough you can also notice on this website they provide a "reading list" for people who score in each quadrant. while right libertarians have ayn rand and militon friedman, the left authoritarian has a collection of howard zinn and thomas picketty. On the left authoritarian side we have Kim jog il Stalin and Mao (im surprised they dind't the put the collected works of ho chi minh). So, on the right authoritarian side, you would expect Adolf Hitler or Mussolini , but nope! They have David Cameron, Machiavelli, and Margaret thatcher so the bias of the creators of this test should be clear

https://www.politicalcompass.org/authrightbooks

The test is a recruiting tool for fascists nothing more...

[Ibn.AL.Muqafaa]

I tried to see if I could get into the far left authoritarian corner.

https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-10.0&soc=-5.28

and as you can I see I failed miserably. The test is really just for the anarcho capitalist ayn rand fascist crowd. As you can see they label the apartheid supporting, Hindu supremacist Ghandi as a far left anarchist radical. They label anyone who is against "the free market" on the left side. because as we all know the right wing never favors "gubbmint intervention the ecomoney" lol

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http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Political_Compass

If that wasn't enough you can also notice on this website they provide a "reading list" for people who score in each quadrant. while right libertarians have ayn rand and militon friedman, the left authoritarian has a collection of howard zinn and thomas picketty. On the left authoritarian side we have Kim jog il Stalin and Mao (im surprised they dind't the put the collected works of ho chi minh). So, on the right authoritarian side, you would expect Adolf Hitler or Mussolini , but nope! They have David Cameron, Machiavelli, and Margaret thatcher so the bias of the creators of this test should be clear

https://www.politicalcompass.org/authrightbooks

The test is a recruiting tool for fascists nothing more...
In order to land in the red quadrant one has to:
-Oppose homosexuality.
-Believe that to be moral u have to be religious.
-Oppose premarital sex.
-Believe that women should be housewives.
-Porn should be illegal.
-State intervention in a couple's sex life.
-Citizens to be monitored for their own safety from terrorism.



I agree that this test is flawed from the Libertarian/Authoritarian perspectives.

[ckaihatsu]

The problem with this framework is that it's substituting the endpoints of 'authoritarian' and 'libertarian' for a more-appropriate axis of *scale* -- if any political initiative, like a revolution, is to be successful, it *has* to be widespread, by definition, which implies *uniformity*, or consistency, over broad geographical terrain (if not outright globally).

And such a movement would be inherently *floundering* and *invalid* if it had to use an iron fist on its own participants, the revolutionaries themselves. A *successful* revolution / movement would be bottom-up, and would be large / populous enough to where people would certainly have personal lives of their own while being intensely political and participatory as well ('self-determining', or -shudder- "libertarian").

Here's a much better four-quadrant approach, *with* a vertical axis of scale, to indicate 'national' or 'international':


Political Spectrum, Simplified

http://s6.postimg.org/eeeic5c6p/2373845980046342459jv_Mrd_G_fs.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/c9u5b2ajx/full/)

[The Idler]

https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-7.5&soc=-9.38

[Ibn.AL.Muqafaa]

What about the Nolan chart?

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[IbelieveInanarchy]

Economic Left/Right:-10 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian:-7.85

WTF, IbelieveInanarchy? I'm supposed to be an "authoritarian" MLM!:laugh: Maybe I'm more Mao-Spontex (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao-Spontex)?:blushing:

I'm not sure about the usefulness of the Political Compass Test. It seems like basically any leftist, from anarchist to "Stalinist", ends up in the bottom left corner. Uh oh, this test sees right through me. The questions can be interpreted in very different ways so yeah, its a bit flawed.