DO YOU LEAN AGAINST THE LEFT ?lets discuss it openly

[Inquilabzindabad]

These are the moments during which nationalist fervour has become a sin coming to be known as spreading anti-national terror.

Come combat against it !

[criticalrealist]

As Marx introduced internationalism in the Manifesto, "Workers of the world ...." Nationality is irrelevant.

[Inquilabzindabad]

above all is my nationalist socialism

[ckaihatsu]

above all is my nationalist socialism


You may want to avoid using this term since it's synonymous with the far-right, or fascism.

However, on the content / *meaning* of what you're indicating, I'll point out that there's nationwide unrest in Mexico right now due to a renewed privatization initiative (of Pemex (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pemex)) on the part of the bourgeoisie there.

In other words does being Mexican mean that one is for nationalized industries, or that one is for the private, Mexican ownership of productive assets -- ?


Strikes spread in Mexico, thousands of police deployed to capital

http://www.revleft.com/vb/threads/196459-Strikes-spread-in-Mexico-thousands-of-police-deployed-to-capital

[Inquilabzindabad]

Nationalism is not fascism .communism is for my nationalist love.i dream of my countrymen to attain equality else how can i think of the world .charity begins at home and its certainly not fascism but patriotism.if i want to die for something its respect for my nation and the cause of liberating them from the yokes of capitalist imperialism

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Thanks for pointing it out to my convenience you are nice and please rectify me where I go wrong

[ckaihatsu]

Nationalism is not fascism .communism is for my nationalist love.i dream of my countrymen to attain equality else how can i think of the world .charity begins at home and its certainly not fascism but patriotism.if i want to die for something its respect for my nation and the cause of liberating them from the yokes of capitalist imperialism

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Thanks for pointing it out to my convenience you are nice and please rectify me where I go wrong


I have no problem with your *sentiment*, otherwise I would have counterposed my own take / line already.

You're expressing a local-to-global rejection of poverty / scarcity / capitalism, which is entirely positive and goes with any genuine 'national liberation' project, to socialism.

[Inquilabzindabad]

I have no problem with your *sentiment*, otherwise I would have counterposed my own take / line already.

You're expressing a local-to-global rejection of poverty / scarcity / capitalism, which is entirely positive and goes with any genuine 'national liberation' project, to socialism.


Thanks for the second para but I want a united front for that and a set of methods to attain the desired target not through speech alone but action besides it

[Marxman81]

In my opinion, patriotism and nationality are irrelevant. If I love and care for the people of my country no differently than any other human being on Earth.

[willowtooth]

Marx said


Though not in substance, yet in form, the struggle of the proletariat with the bourgeoisie is at first a national struggle. The proletariat of each country must, of course, first of all settle matters with its own bourgeoisie.



Lenin expands on it


The nation is a necessary product, and inevitable form, in the bourgeois epoch of social development. The working class cannot grow strong, cannot mature, cannot consolidate its forces, except by 'constituting itself the nation', without being 'national' ('though not in the bourgeois sense of the word'). But the development of capitalism tends to break down national boundaries, does away with national isolation, substitutes class antagonisms for national antagonisms. In the more developed capitalist countries it is perfectly true that 'the workers have no fatherland' and that 'united action' of the workers, in the civilised countries at least, 'is one of the first conditions for the emancipation of the proletariat

here's an interesting article on it

https://www.marxists.org/archive/rosdolsky/1965/workers.htm