SAVE THE WORLD NOW!

[Freiheitfuralle]

Attention all U.$. citizens. If you are interested in the end of U$ Imperialism, corporate rule, and bullshit policies like the Patriot Act, VOTE NADER!
He is the answer to our prayers and anyone who cannot see this is a short-sighted, capitalistic, flag waving, bigot.
WE must support him in any way possible before this country falls back into the hands of the Bu$H administration!
If you are not able to vote, tell other people to vote nader. Make donations, flyers, anything. Just please save Iraq and other unfortunate victims from US imperialism before its too late!! Help!

[revoevo]

Firstly, voting for a third-party candidate is pretty well equal to not voting at all. Let's face it - it's a wasted vote.

Secondly, isn't that a little bit... harsh(to say the least)?!


He is the answer to our prayers and anyone who cannot see this is a short-sighted, capitalstic, flag waving, bigot.

[Yazman]

I think he's talking about Dubya in that passage you quoted there, Revoevo.

[EneME]

Nader has good intentions but could also be the cause for Bush's re-election and we have got to get Satan's Spawn out of the white house....
He's ruined the world enough! I'm voting for whichever Dem. goes against him...

[Sabocat]

Show me one position paper from Ralph Nader stating opposition to the Iraq war before it started. Why didn't Nader attend and speak at any of the anti-war rallies?

Nader is fiscally conservative. If you're going to vote for a third party candidate, Nader is not the one to vote for.

Kucinich is a better choice than Nader.

[revoevo]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2004, 08:52 AM
I think he's talking about Dubya in that passage you quoted there, Revoevo.
Oh... really? I thought he was referring in general to anyone who doesn't seem to believe Nader is the answer to our prayers. :huh:

[Individual]

A vote for Nader=a vote for Bush.

Nader is not going to win, I will tell you that. Call me ignorant on this, but this would be one of those bets to bet your life on.

Huge conspiracy, but if Nader truly cared about getting Bush out of there, he surely would not run. Nader is taking away from the movement to get Bush out of there. He may be the cause of having Bush back in office.

[pandora]

Many of my friends in the gay and lesbian community feel the same way, they damn well know their interests aren't represented with Bush, a constitutional ammendment against gay marriage what a load of horse puckey! A constitution is to ensure rights not eliminate them, the contrariness makes me ill.
But feel they can bargin with Kerry, bargin with being the key words, I know as socialists bargining within the faulty system doesn't appeal, but looking at 16 yr old mothers coming out of social services offices I don't feel I can vote against Kerry or they will suffer.
Chose a or b and then go to the toilet

[pedro san pedro]

theres always going to be a reason to not vote for the 3rd party -be it bush or the next nasty little rat that crawls outta a hole to screw us.

face it: a vot for the dem's is fairly similar to a vote for the republicans. eventually we are going to need an alternative. americain voters have the power to make tis alternative a wee bit stronger this year -do they really want to waste this chance?

[Yazman]

Originally posted by revoevo+Feb 25 2004, 05:24 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (revoevo @ Feb 25 2004, 05:24 AM)
[email protected] 24 2004, 08:52 AM
I think he&#39;s talking about Dubya in that passage you quoted there, Revoevo.
Oh... really? I thought he was referring in general to anyone who doesn&#39;t seem to believe Nader is the answer to our prayers. :huh: [/b]
Actually comrade, you are right&#33;

I read it in the wrong context, and I was wrong.

[Freiheitfuralle]

Ok Revoevo and Yazman, I was referring to socialists who don&#39;t vote Nader or any other third party candidate. However, BU&#036;H falls into the "flag-waving bigot" category too. So I guess both of you are correct&#33; Anyway, I think people need to stop worrying about throwing their vote away and start voting for the truly deserving candidate. Thousands of people will vote Kerry this election because they simply don&#39;t want to "throw their vote away"
Nader isn&#39;t stealing votes from anyone&#33; He has every right to run and you can vote for whomever you like. The Republicans and the Democrats are starting to look very much alike. They don&#39;t care about anyone&#39;s fucking rights&#33; They don&#39;t care about the issues&#33;
THEY CARE ABOUT THEIR MONEY AND THEIR FUCKING CORPORATE BACKERS&#33; They sit in their little office chairs and watch the war on TV while America goes down the drain&#33; WE need a revolution not more oil from Iraq&#33; If a million Americans don&#39;t want to "throw their vote away" or think Nader is somehow "stealing the election" then OF COURSE NADER DOES NOT HAVE A CHANCE&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; Because of these supposed Americans who won&#39;t vote third party because they are too concerned about The Democrats and The Republicans&#33; Screw the lot of them&#33; If you can&#39;t vote for the best than why vote at all?
I think that any leftist in their right mind will vote for Nader&#33; (N.P.I)
The media wants you to think that you have a choice between either Kerry or Bush. Both of them have the money to buy popularity. Hey guess what? This election is about power, money, and blatant rightist propaganda&#33; Nader seems to be the only one who even cares about where this country is headed&#33; But he can&#39;t buy air time and he certainly doesn&#39;t take corporate hand-outs&#33; So he gets ruled out by people who won&#39;t "THROW THEIR VOTE AWAY&#33;"

[Don't Change Your Name]

Originally posted by [email protected] 24 2004, 06:56 AM
Firstly, voting for a third-party candidate is pretty well equal to not voting at all. Let&#39;s face it - it&#39;s a wasted vote.
Guess what: most people think the same about innovative parties so they end up voting the same capitalist crap&#33; If all those who vote for such people as the democrats with that argument would vote for such a party as the greens...

[Individual]

El: This may very well be true. The problem is, Che-Lives only contains 6.5 thousand members, it is hard to spread the message to the ignorant public and be able to sway opinions.

[KickMcCann]

Maybe Nader wouldn&#39;t run if he thought electing a democrat to office would change anything, but he obviously realizes that it won&#39;t change a thing. If he causes Bush to get reelected, so what? Do you think Kerry would actually change any of Bush&#39;s policies or dismantle the homeland security office or Total Information Awareness program? The only reason the corporate media allows Kerry to exist as a canidate is because they own him. Dean used to be their man, until he threatened to break up the mass-media conglomarates who control the mainstream press.
This whole election can be sumed up as a big social experiment conducted by those really in power, an experiment that tests which personality-type the American public identifies most with. Bush is the masculine, alpha-male, cowboy, gunfighter, ultra-nationalist. Kerry is the metrosexual, intellectual, commpassionate, internationalist. Their personalities are complete polar opposites, but their goals are the same--to increase American influence and control over the world and make their corporate handlers richer than they already are. Bush achieves the goals by acting like a drunken football jock ready to fight anyone who looks at his girlfriend, Kerry will achieve the goals by pretending to lead the world community on an intellectual, commpasionate crusade to make the world safe for democracy-same way Clinton did.
I will not be at all suprised when Kerry is elected and procedes with the invading and bombing of innocent countries like Bush does now, except Kerry will be a liberal about it.

Our only real choice is to accept the fact that the richest of the rich-like the Du Ponts and Bushes, own and control our country like the corporate feudalists they are, and hope for the day when the american government and economy completely collapse. Until then grin and bear it or find a new country to live in if you desire democracy. :)

[Freiheitfuralle]

Well said KickMcCan&#33; I couldn&#39;t agree more&#33; Nader is our only hope.

[revolutionindia]

kennedy=bush=nader=KickMcCan=most of americans=devil

No matter who the american president is as long as the big corporations rule
all presidents will be puppets in the hand of american corporations.

I wonder how americans sleep at night.I wonder where the ghosts of people killed by american foreign policy are becasue i thought they will haunt americans but there is no evidence about that.

or probaby the ghosts are scared of americans.

No country has got away with murder,plunder,rape as easily as america.

[KickMcCann]

most Americans sleep easily at night because they have absolutely no idea about the world outside their own towns and borders. Most Americans go to fox or cnn for their news, but companies like these are propaganda stations that deliberatly alter the reality of truth. If the general population of America knew about the human rights atrocities commited by the American government/corporations so that they can have lots of nice consumer goods they would probably be pretty pissed off, but seeing as the major apparatauses of information ae controlled, it will never happen.
But America&#39;s elite cannot escape its fate or its crimes, they will collapse, they will fall, they will suffer the horrors they spread around the world. But in order for it to occur, the rest of the world must be active in pursuing this goal.