I want to die like BHAGAT AND FIGHT LIKE CHE

[Inquilabzindabad]

Long live the revolution !

[IbelieveInanarchy]

what is your goal of posting this...

[Inquilabzindabad]

what is your goal of posting this...



these were the words of a slain communist maoist/naxalite ,chandrasekhar prasad.

[Ale Brider]

I can understand how a lot of people feel passionate about martyrdom and the beauty of the personal, "heroic" tragedies of revolutionaries, but honestly, most of us want to die peacefully in a bed, of old age. And why claim you want to "fight like Che"? What is so great about Che? Why the obsession with "great men"? The real heroes are always the masses whose struggle is shaped by history, and how they shape history amidst their struggle. Revolutions don't need leaders or an individual, romantic hero. Either everyone involved in the struggle is a "hero", or no one is.

[Inquilabzindabad]

I can understand how a lot of people feel passionate about martyrdom and the beauty of the personal, "heroic" tragedies of revolutionaries, but honestly, most of us want to die peacefully in a bed, of old age. And why claim you want to "fight like Che"? What is so great about Che? Why the obsession with "great men"? The real heroes are always the masses whose struggle is shaped by history, and how they shape history amidst their struggle. Revolutions don't need leaders or an individual, romantic hero. Either everyone involved in the struggle is a "hero", or no one is.

Hero - A communist revolutionary is not an idol to anyone but one who lights the darkness in the path to liberation of the hapless and hopeless masses with the glow of his sacrifice and his will,strength and persuance in the fight he undertakes.It inspires us but I don't call it heroic it was tragic and has nothing to pertain with making yourself a hero but a cynosure in the eyes of countless hapless masses who need someone to be guided by.

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I can understand how a lot of people feel passionate about martyrdom and the beauty of the personal, "heroic" tragedies of revolutionaries, but honestly, most of us want to die peacefully in a bed, of old age. And why claim you want to "fight like Che"? What is so great about Che? Why the obsession with "great men"? The real heroes are always the masses whose struggle is shaped by history, and how they shape history amidst their struggle. Revolutions don't need leaders or an individual, romantic hero. Either everyone involved in the struggle is a "hero", or no one is.

ABOUT OBSESSION YOU WIN THE ARGUMENT YES I WAS OBSESSED ABOUT MARTYRDOM AND NATIONALISM SINCE YEARS .DUNNO WHY ?DONT ASK ME WHY MEN LOVE ,ITS NATURAL FOR ME ,MY LOVE FOR THESE MEN REALLY IS INEXPRESSIBLE.

[Ale Brider]

Hero - A communist revolutionary is not an idol to anyone but one who lights the darkness in the path to liberation of the hapless and hopeless masses with the glow of his sacrifice and his will,strength and persuance in the fight he undertakes.It inspires us but I don't call it heroic it was tragic and has nothing to pertain with making yourself a hero but a cynosure in the eyes of countless hapless masses who need someone to be guided by.

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ABOUT OBSESSION YOU WIN THE ARGUMENT YES I WAS OBSESSED ABOUT MARTYRDOM AND NATIONALISM SINCE YEARS .DUNNO WHY ?DONT ASK ME WHY MEN LOVE ,ITS NATURAL FOR ME ,MY LOVE FOR THESE MEN REALLY IS INEXPRESSIBLE.

Sorry, but this is pretty much what the Great Men Theory of Droysen and Carlyle sounded like when it was something new. The communist view of history, and the materialist analysis of historical development is not really compatible with that. No one said to think like this is easy, it takes a lot to adpot a materialist point of view regarding these things, but as long as we don't get rid of such ontological idealisms that "great men" are somehow superior and are lights in the darkness (my god) we will be only people with a desire for a revolution that is distinctly romantic in character. Being a communist is not just accepting the anti-capitalist rage that comes from all places. It means that we have to work on our understanding, theory, and praxis as a whole. If we neglect one thing, what we do will be ultimately flawed.

[Inquilabzindabad]

I can understand how a lot of people feel passionate about martyrdom and the beauty of the personal, "heroic" tragedies of revolutionaries, but honestly, most of us want to die peacefully in a bed, of old age. And why claim you want to "fight like Che"? What is so great about Che? Why the obsession with "great men"? The real heroes are always the masses whose struggle is shaped by history, and how they shape history amidst their struggle. Revolutions don't need leaders or an individual, romantic hero. Either everyone involved in the struggle is a "hero", or no one is.


Sorry, but this is pretty much what the Great Men Theory of Droysen and Carlyle sounded like when it was something new. The communist view of history, and the materialist analysis of historical development is not really compatible with that. No one said to think like this is easy, it takes a lot to adpot a materialist point of view regarding these things, but as long as we don't get rid of such ontological idealisms that "great men" are somehow superior and are lights in the darkness (my god) we will be only people with a desire for a revolution that is distinctly romantic in character. Being a communist is not just accepting the anti-capitalist rage that comes from all places. It means that we have to work on our understanding, theory, and praxis as a whole. If we neglect one thing, what we do will be ultimately flawed.
COULD YOU TAKE PART IN AN AGGRESSIVE armed REVOLUTION IN PRAXIS. ?You need a lot of mental preparation I look forward to moral aims of the society as a whole so The system needs to be changed for the good and it needs the society to get prepared and neglect material incentives.We need guerilla tactics .I can't open up a lot at least on this clear net forum .

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I can understand how a lot of people feel passionate about martyrdom and the beauty of the personal, "heroic" tragedies of revolutionaries, but honestly, most of us want to die peacefully in a bed, of old age. And why claim you want to "fight like Che"? What is so great about Che? Why the obsession with "great men"? The real heroes are always the masses whose struggle is shaped by history, and how they shape history amidst their struggle. Revolutions don't need leaders or an individual, romantic hero. Either everyone involved in the struggle is a "hero", or no one is.


Sorry, but this is pretty much what the Great Men Theory of Droysen and Carlyle sounded like when it was something new. The communist view of history, and the materialist analysis of historical development is not really compatible with that. No one said to think like this is easy, it takes a lot to adpot a materialist point of view regarding these things, but as long as we don't get rid of such ontological idealisms that "great men" are somehow superior and are lights in the darkness (my god) we will be only people with a desire for a revolution that is distinctly romantic in character. Being a communist is not just accepting the anti-capitalist rage that comes from all places. It means that we have to work on our understanding, theory, and praxis as a whole. If we neglect one thing, what we do will be ultimately flawed.


COULD YOU TAKE PART IN AN AGGRESSIVE armed REVOLUTION IN PRAXIS. ?You need a lot of mental preparation I look forward to moral aims of the society as a whole so The system needs to be changed for the good and it needs the society to get prepared and neglect material incentives.We need guerilla tactics .I can't open up a lot at least on this clear net forum .

[Ale Brider]

Now examine your idelogocial positions a bit. What makes you a communist besides revolutionary phrase-mongering and sentimental, idealistic anti-capitalism? None of these are the primary defining attributes of communism, even if it may seem so. Especially if you throw nationalism in the mix.

[Inquilabzindabad]

You call me a confused fool are you hinting at this term do a bit of phrase mongering to call me a stupid what's communism for and for whom the proletarians alone what about the unemployed and have nots on streets

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My idea is something to forge out of the blue print of communism a guerilla tactics and Maoism without armed rebellion one simply can't win.

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It doesn't simply pertain to the proletariat but also the jobless

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Now allow me have some urgent work at hand for the next morning we can talk later am already in a befuddled position as to finish up my work you see.

[Ale Brider]

You call me a confused fool are you hinting at this term do a bit of phrase mongering to call me a stupid what's communism for and for whom the proletarians alone what about the unemployed and have nots on streets

I did not call anyone a fool, I never intended too, if you look into my replies, you can see what kind of person I am and you can see that I don't do such things. But, and you can also see that from my previous replies, I tend to be very cautious when it comes to idealist positions (conscious or not), nationalism (nationalism is a slippery slope) or any communist activity that resort to revolutionary phrases and the constant call for an armed (or non-armed) struggle of some kind.