So how come no one is ceasing the opportunity to start a revolution?

[Tankie]

Trump won, all the liberals are pissed, maybe of them are sympathetic towards socialism/communism. They hate Trump. This would be the perfect time to start something. What's going on? Is anyone going to do anything? Peoples emotions are calming down... Really it should have been done right after the elections. Like they want to move to Canada, but I bet not many are even going to do that... Idk, I think my generation is lethargic... We just get mad, go on the internet, and complain about it and post memes on facebook and twitter... I guess I'm guilty of it too :(

I was hoping the one good thing a Trump victory would have done would have been to ignite the revolution. The more scary part is that we would do nothing. What are we gonna do if he starts all the discriminatory things he talked about? Deportations, muslim registration, etc etc... Just protest, complain about it? Maybe everyone is just waiting for someone else to do something first before they join in?

[willowtooth]

because its funny... c'mon how funny is it that Donald Trump is president?

If Americans were really afraid of Trump more than 50% would've voted. That means about half of Americans didnt care enough if Clinton or Trump was president to walk down too their local election booth. Besides Obama is still president, and American presidents have a long history of assassinations and assassination attempts (somebody once threw a grenade at GW Bush), there's no telling if Trump will even make it to January 20th.

What would happen after the revolution?

[IbelieveInanarchy]

To think that somehow a small minority could unite a very very unorganized disunited working class in the USA is ridiculous. There are like 1% communists in the USA i don't see how you think now is the time for revolution. Trump will show that the very right does not work properly so he will build the grounds for revolution but not now.

[Blake's Baby]

Do you mean 'seizing' the opportunity?

I think, because there isn't an opportunity. Trump's election is a demonstration that the working class in the US is ideologically smashed.

Anyway, what would a revolution in a country that makes up 5% of the world's population achieve? The rest of the world's working class I reckon mostly couldn't care less about Trump (maybe Mexico's working class does a bit).

But, you also ask 'what about if he starts to do the stuff he talked about?'

That is a different matter. I think, as a politically-active member of the working class, you're probably best of talking to your friends, workmates/fellow-students (I don't know what your background is) and neighbours (everyone's got them) and getting together to organise against deportations or other scapegoating of immigrants and other vulnerable sectors of the working class. If there is an opportunity, start a discussion group. And yes, protest at what he does, loudly, for a long time, and try to get other people to do the same. Always try to keep in mind - and bring to the fore - that workers have no interests in common with the capitalist class, no matter what lies we're told about 'nation' or 'race' or anything else. United the working class can change the world, so always aim for the unity of the class.

[IbelieveInanarchy]

Do you mean 'seizing' the opportunity?

I think, because there isn't an opportunity. Trump's election is a demonstration that the working class in the US is ideologically smashed.

Anyway, what would a revolution in a country that makes up 5% of the world's population achieve? The rest of the world's working class I reckon mostly couldn't care less about Trump (maybe Mexico's working class does a bit). Dont you think using that statistic is a bit misleadin, the USA hold 16% of gdp and the biggest army. A revolution in this country would obviously have impact on the world and bolster communist activity around the world.

[John Nada]

Trump won, all the liberals are pissed, maybe of them are sympathetic towards socialism/communism. They hate Trump. This would be the perfect time to start something. What's going on? Is anyone going to do anything? Peoples emotions are calming down... Really it should have been done right after the elections. Like they want to move to Canada, but I bet not many are even going to do that... Idk, I think my generation is lethargic... We just get mad, go on the internet, and complain about it and post memes on facebook and twitter... I guess I'm guilty of it too :(
The fundamental law of revolution, which has been confirmed by all revolutions and especially by all three Russian revolutions in the twentieth century, is as follows: for a revolution to take place it is not enough for the exploited and oppressed masses to realise the impossibility of living in the old way, and demand changes; for a revolution to take place it is essential that the exploiters should not be able to live and rule in the old way. It is only when the “lower classes” do not want to live in the old way and the “upper classes” cannot carry on in the old way that the revolution can triumph. This truth can be expressed in other words: revolution is impossible without a nation-wide crisis (affecting both the exploited and the exploiters). It follows that, for a revolution to take place, it is essential, first, that a majority of the workers (or at least a majority of the class-conscious, thinking, and politically active workers) should fully realise that revolution is necessary, and that they should be prepared to die for it; second, that the ruling classes should be going through a governmental crisis, which draws even the most backward masses into politics (symptomatic of any genuine revolution is a rapid, tenfold and even hundredfold increase in the size of the working and oppressed masses—hitherto apathetic—who are capable of waging the political struggle), weakens the government, and makes it possible for the revolutionaries to rapidly overthrow it. https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1920/lwc/ch09.htm

In the US, do the masses not want to live the old way, and the bourgeoisie cannot rule in the old way? The latter maybe, the former unfortunately not yet. More still, is the majority or a good chunk of the working class down to die for revolution? No. Is there a crises? Politically maybe, economically not yet.

However, economically there will eventually be another recession. They happen about every ten years. There's a good chance that one will happen under the Trump. So the best would be to prepare for it, and defend against him shifting more of the burden on the proletariat(likely including us).
I was hoping the one good thing a Trump victory would have done would have been to ignite the revolution. The more scary part is that we would do nothing. What are we gonna do if he starts all the discriminatory things he talked about? Deportations, muslim registration, etc etc... Just protest, complain about it? Maybe everyone is just waiting for someone else to do something first before they join in?Less than 20% of Americans voting for Trump, or anyone getting elected really, isn't magically going to awaken the proletariat. Best you could say is the majority of the proletariat passively boycotted the election, which shows they're aware of the shame that is bourgeois democracy on a basic level.

Sadly there isn't yet a strong workers' movement or socialist movement in the US to link up to. Best you can do is form a group with like-minded people in your area to discuss things, and be active in mass struggles on the local level. From there prepare.

[AnarchoSXE]

There are lots of people who would love to see a real revolution start, but unfortunately we, in the U.S., still aren't ready. With Trumps election, we are more divided than ever. BUT, he is also pissing off a lot of working class people and pushing them towards radical ideas. For instance, in my state, I went years without ever hearing about ANY radical organizing. But since the beginning of this year, there have been a ton of radical groups popping up. Even if they're small, it's a start. The more Trump pushes, the more the people will push back. We just have to keep organizing and doing what we can locally, and hope it goes in the right direction.

[RainbowRevolution]

There's a fundamental problem in the United States, in that the political necessities of political dissent and instability (let alone revolution), are very stifled, and in some cases completely non-existent.

We lack a sense of hope in the United States...there's just a deep-rooted cynicism that things can't get better...ever. That we're stuck within the system that we have, and that any attempt to change it won't work, because human nature forbids it. They don't feel like things can get any better, and as a result even the class conscious within the States are crippled in their ability to act upon their political positions. Add to this a general ignorance of what routes that they could take, and the opportunities the Left offers, and you have a perfect storm: Ignorance & Apathy.

Another major problem is the major fragmentation of the Left in the United States. Instead of many countries, which have a small number of Socialist and Communist parties united across the country, which then also share resources and assist one another, and act as one in solidarity, the Left in the US is split among well over a dozen different parties and organizations. There's no common area of control or affiliation, and so the parties and organizations divide themselves.

I strongly feel that there cannot be gains until almost all the parties organize into a United Workers Party, in which we can form a united front of the thousands of the left, and build up a strong foundation upon which to seize both power in the political sense, but to also to better advocate for Socialist and Communist principles, and spread the ideas, to a widely ignorant public.

From there...we can start to build up the foundations of class consciousness to drive towards revolutionary thinking, but until then...these are only a few of the perhaps DOZENS of things which are causing difficulty in Leftist thinking in the United States, and hinder their progress.

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More and more community's and individuals are seizing their opportunity. State sponsored terrorism is becoming more and more apparent as social media and our inter-connectivity as a human race grows.
If you think that we are seeing an unprecedented rise in reaction I think the opposite. I think this absurd rise in fascism is something closer to the last attempt that capitalism has to defend itself from the largest progressive moment the world has ever seen.

People around the world and even in the west are really taking note and are more and more willing to fight against the state and recognizing its cancerous affects on society.
I think that the next revolution will be with a large Anti-authoritarian bent. Like the Libertarian movements in the Middle east and Mexico, as well as others; I think we will see more and more community's demanding autonomy from the state. After a few more years of trump I think we will see this even in the U.S. "Sanctuary city's are a good indicator that people dont want to be under the thumb of oppressive regimes any more. The class conscience then is a wide scale rejection of the state and the capitalism is upholds.

[delaforet]

I think people are getting angrier and angrier. More people are out on the streets these days. Yes, they are liberals, and that is frustrating. But it is better than nothing at this point. I'm just sick of people saying "Bernie Sanders would've won." Get over it. Even if Sanders had won, he would not have brought forth a revolution! He would've made some changes in the right direction, but one politician is not the end-all-be-all... we need people angry and putting their lives on the line for their beliefs.

[trustyoursources]

Its delusional to think that America is any where close to a revolution. You sound like you are just hoping for one super bad and its clouding your judgement on how possible it is that a revolution would take place in a time like this. Its simply completely impossible. We are living in the opposite of revolutionary times. We are living in the time of fat lardy complacency. You must realize people in America have things, they have cars and homes and jobs and families. There will be no revolution in a stable regime revolutions are for the starving and angry without possessions and scared backed into a corner. This is nothing America is doing just fine people have stuff. People love stuff. People are getting nice a lardy under this regime. Larders dont revolt this indulge.