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Abraxas
4th December 2016, 23:58
How about we focus on organized education? Protests though seen by many and at times having millions of protestors often incite a feeling a rage, anger, desperation. Very few feel power while watching the news and seeing such fights. Whatever feeling of power you may get turns to fear or trepidation when you also witness the backlash as often these rallies are met with violence regardless of if that is the intention of the protestors. I am not proposing to stop protests but to not equate protests with information or education. You have to teach the masses what you're protesting about show them how it affects them and what you are doing to help their homes and families. Personal empowerment in my opinion is the biggest downfall to the power of over controlling governments or corporations. When people feel free to take care of and provide for themselves. When they feel deserving of freedom and ultimate happiness that is when they start to take it. Little by little no protests necessary for them to claim what is theirs'. This is a recent idea of mine that I have been forming little by little I am seeking more knowledge in view points to better flesh out these theories. Please provide your thoughts and any reading you may recommend in order to learn more about what makes a revolution successful.

almost
5th December 2016, 03:06
How about we focus on organized education? Protests though seen by many and at times having millions of protestors often incite a feeling a rage, anger, desperation. Very few feel power while watching the news and seeing such fights. Whatever feeling of power you may get turns to fear or trepidation when you also witness the backlash as often these rallies are met with violence regardless of if that is the intention of the protestors. I am not proposing to stop protests but to not equate protests with information or education. You have to teach the masses what you're protesting about show them how it affects them and what you are doing to help their homes and families. Personal empowerment in my opinion is the biggest downfall to the power of over controlling governments or corporations. When people feel free to take care of and provide for themselves. When they feel deserving of freedom and ultimate happiness that is when they start to take it. Little by little no protests necessary for them to claim what is theirs'. This is a recent idea of mine that I have been forming little by little I am seeking more knowledge in view points to better flesh out these theories. Please provide your thoughts and any reading you may recommend in order to learn more about what makes a revolution successful. What have you looked at so far in regards to theory that is critical of activism, from mass protest movements to unions? In regards to personal empowerment, are you familiar with Communization? Do you know where to find anarchist and communist texts online?

The Idler
12th December 2016, 22:11
Fantastic. But what would the would-be Leninist generals do without an unconscious rank and file chanting their slogans and they imagine they are commanding on protests or demos.
On a more serious note, take a look at this
https://libcom.org/library/give-up-activism
Traditionally socialism has taken a dim view of protesting, one Socialist Party of America member wrote;

‘I can’t see why the official pacifist groups have to spend so much time on piffling projects like those temporary fasts, White House picketing etc. when all it does is impress its terrible weakness applying some of the minor Gandhi tactics where their chance of success is infinitely smaller that it makes them look ridiculous’.
William Morris agreed

our immediate aim should be chiefly educational

The Intransigent Faction
13th December 2016, 02:18
Single-issue protests especially, or peaceful protests involving chanting "Shame! Shame! Shame!" at police have done little to nothing concrete for fomenting class consciousness or building a revolutionary workers' movement.

Yes, we should aim to educate. However, it's more and more clear with each passing year that private capital's institutionalized ideological barriers severely limit our ability to do this. We've had people trying to educate workers about an alternative for years, without gaining much, if any ground at all. Schools, the media, parliament and other such institutions have managed to sustain capitalism in the face of an ever-widening gap between reality and its ideological claims of opportunity and individual freedom. We need to focus our efforts on this problem.

This doesn't mean we need some kind of conspiratorial vanguard plotting to duke it out with bourgeois states. We do, however, need an organized vanguard leading the way in pushing socialism back from the margins and into a visible space where an uncompromisingly revolutionary position cannot simply be brushed aside. Workers may not (at first undoubtedly will not) accept it, but meekness won't build the groundwork for revolution. We have to be prepared to confront not only reactionaries, but more importantly reformists, head on and show the workers "Their false alternatives won't work. Socialism is more than possible. It is necessary."

It's time to reject the Chomskyite position of engaging in at-best reformist struggles (to the point of actively conceding power to the liberal mainstream on the grounds that Trump is bad), along with any fantastical notions of "People's War" led by guerilla conspirators. If we're going to educate, it has to be an unapologetic revolutionary education. Revolutionaries active in unions need to raise the possibility not just of better wages and benefits, or token elements of worker "participation" in management, but of actual democratic management of their workplace and the economy at large. Revolutionaries overly concerned with bourgeois elections need to call the farce what it is and refocus their energy on building alternative organs of genuine democracy.

In short, the central problem with protests is when they A) are narrowly focused and B) make demands of the existing system.
Instead, we need to:
A) be comprehensively revolutionary (on issues, of race, sex, gender, the environment, and of course workers' seizing of the means of production with an aim of building a society to overcome all systemic oppression).
B) stop making demands of the current system and start demanding and actively working for a new one.