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cubist
23rd February 2004, 17:29
just wondered was going to poll to see who many in oi actually support BUSH

who does?
and why

el_profe
23rd February 2004, 17:41
Well, supporting him on what issues?

I support the war on terror and the war on Iraq, but i dont support his expansion of goverment, the tarrifs he placed on imported steel, i dont support the expansion of money going to medicare, I dont support how the education system has been handeled I dont support all the gov. spending going on.

There is many more thing I support like tax cuts and other things I dont support, but there is so many issues that you just (well actually you can) say that you support everything he has done.

Hoppe
23rd February 2004, 17:59
but i dont support his expansion of goverment, the tarrifs he placed on imported steel, i dont support the expansion of money going to medicare, I dont support how the education system has been handeled I dont support all the gov. spending going on.

Hmm, that will be very hard in November since Kerry and Edwards are also proposing more protectionism. Yet Bush is going to cripple the economy entirely if he continues running enormous deficits.

So, are there any good third options, or are there already people starting to learn mandarine?

Hegemonicretribution
23rd February 2004, 18:10
This probably goes without saying, but I thnk I speak for most the left by sayin that Bush does not have our support on just about anything.

His policies are the sort that make "capitalism" even more unfair than isa normally possible. His Draconian beliefs will oppress millions, and his double standards anger persons all over the globe. It is a pity there is no real opposition with a chance.

Individual
23rd February 2004, 20:49
To slightly change the question.

This is not straying to far off topic, and its not completely changing the topic either, you can answer more than one question, so please do not come back at me for changing the topic.

How many of us support others leaders in our lives? Do we like being treated as pawns? Do we like obeying the command of the head honcho? Should we have to obey the commands of others, whether it is in a country, or a very small community?

Some feel that they run and control certain things. They feel as if they put us in our places, and control what we can and cannot do. Do you guys believe this is civil and for the common good?

SonofRage
23rd February 2004, 20:49
If he were planning to jump off a cliff, I would support him 100% :D

Xvall
23rd February 2004, 21:38
I don't have a president.

BOZG
23rd February 2004, 21:42
Originally posted by Drake [email protected] 23 2004, 11:38 PM
I don't have a president.
I keep one in my back pocket.

Fidel Castro
23rd February 2004, 23:12
My nation has no head of state, just a lonely old toff posing for banknotes and stamps.

Y2A
24th February 2004, 01:32
I support the war on terror and the war on Iraq

There are known Al-queda cells in Indonesia and Saudi Arabia. There are no known connections between the Ba'ath party and Al-Queda. As a matter of fact it is quite a well known fact that Hussien and Bin Laden dispise each other because, as much as I hate to admit it, Hussien is much more progressive then many other middle eastern leaders. Now, you can make the argument that Iraq is better without Hussien and the Ba'ath party, but for Bush to claim that they supported Al-Queda in an attempt to justify the war is quite ludicrous. But that is not my biggest objection to the war. My biggest objection to it is what Clark has frequently said was his objection to it. The fact that we were planning the war meanwhile we still had troops searching for Bin Laden in the Pakistan-Afgan border. We have lost our focus on Afganistan and that is my biggest obection to the war. Hamid Karzi(sp?) still does not have much control over the outside provinces, many are run by former warlords, and the international community still has not given Afganixtan the full aid it promised previous to the war.


There is many more thing I support like tax cuts

Tax cuts??? Amist this surplus that he turned into a deficit(I know it was not entirely his fault) you think that we should have more tax cuts that benifit the rich???? I think there comes a time when the president must have some balls and actually tell the people that more tax cuts will hurt the american economy and do nothing to decrease the deficit.

Urban Rubble
24th February 2004, 02:05
I support the war on terror and the war on Iraq, but i dont support his expansion of goverment, the tarrifs he placed on imported steel, i dont support the expansion of money going to medicare, I dont support how the education system has been handeled I dont support all the gov. spending going on.

You don't like all the government spending yet you support these wars ? Do I even have to point out that contradiction ? You're pissed about a few bucks for medicare while at the same time supporting the 400 billion dollar defense budget ?


There is many more thing I support like tax cuts and other things I dont support, but there is so many issues that you just (well actually you can) say that you support everything he has done.

Jesus. What tax breaks ? The only ones I have seen have been for the rich and for corporations. You're living in a fantasy world.

el_profe
24th February 2004, 05:50
Originally posted by Urban [email protected] 24 2004, 03:05 AM

I support the war on terror and the war on Iraq, but i dont support his expansion of goverment, the tarrifs he placed on imported steel, i dont support the expansion of money going to medicare, I dont support how the education system has been handeled I dont support all the gov. spending going on.

You don't like all the government spending yet you support these wars ? Do I even have to point out that contradiction ? You're pissed about a few bucks for medicare while at the same time supporting the 400 billion dollar defense budget ?


There is many more thing I support like tax cuts and other things I dont support, but there is so many issues that you just (well actually you can) say that you support everything he has done.

Jesus. What tax breaks ? The only ones I have seen have been for the rich and for corporations. You're living in a fantasy world.
What first of all al-queda attacked the USa first and the USA has the right to defend itself, Hussein was an evil dictator which supported terrorism and supported al-queda.
Its the gov. job to protect its citizens its not its job to provide all its citizens with free health care that comes from taxes to all the people even thoughs who decide not to use medicare.
Also look at what the socialization of the drug making companeis has done? higher prices for medicine, if thee would be competition prices would go down, just like they do with advil,tylenol...

Tax breaks for everyone, lets not forget that until 1913 there was no income tax, and the USA was doing fine back then, they where the most powerfull nation.
Its amazing how you people have so much trust in a corrupt and irresponsible gov., is in there enough evidence that the more money and the more power a gov. has the more they will abuse its power and the more its going to waste the money.

Individual
24th February 2004, 06:08
Hussein was an evil dictator which supported terrorism and supported al-queda.

And you wonder why people complain about your statements?

Show me any form of proof whatsoever.

I will personally pay the amount to fly myself to your location in order to kiss your ass if you can show me any evidence or proof to support that statement.

Saying things like this, and you wonder why people have problems with your statements.


lets not forget that until 1913 there was no income tax, and the USA was doing fine back then, they where the most powerfull nation.

Let's not forget about the advancement of technology either. 'Oh but until 1913 everything was just fine, this country was f'cking great, no income tax, everything was just fine'... I must have been out of the loop. It is 2004 isn't it?

Y2A
24th February 2004, 16:46
There is no hard proof of any links between Al-Queda and Iraq. As I said, OBL even condemed the Iraqi Reguime. I thought you were smarter then this el profe.