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eyedrop
23rd February 2004, 17:12
I'm going to write a big essay on the theme of the spanish collectives, it's gonna be 1/4 of my History grade.
Untill now I have "Anarchistic Collectives in Spain" and "Homage to Catalonia" as my sourches. The essay will get very bad if I don't get any contrary sourches so I can compare them.

My problem now is that all the moderate authors completely ignores the revolution. It's hard to find books not by anarchists on the subject.


Can anyone help me find some books or info about the spanish revolution, that doesn't ignore the collectives. (maybe portrays them as dictatorships or something)

Thanks in advance.

Monty Cantsin
26th February 2004, 00:12
i think you can take this lack of sources from cappies as evidence that it worked well.

eyedrop
26th February 2004, 16:08
Yeah I know but the school system wouldn't like a essay with only one side present, the only other books I find is about the war itself.
Actually I found one of them that didn't even mention the collectives; like they didn't even exists.

Saint-Just
26th February 2004, 20:08
From a 'Stalinist' view the most powerful faction of the Republicans were the Anarchist and the 'Stalinist' tried to pursuade the Anarchists to control of the movement and comman obeidence from the other factions, however, being Anarchists, they did not do this. I don't think anyone would disagree much about how the collectives worked. The only bourgeois view I have heard suggest they did function well.

Morpheus
3rd March 2004, 02:09
The Spanish Civil War by Antony Beevor was written by a non-anarchist, although it's sympathetic to anarchism. The Spanish Cockpit by Franz Borkenau (sp?) is an eye-witness account by a liberal democrat who is very hostile towards anarchism & socialism. Anarchists in the Spanish Revolution (two volumes) by Robert Alexander was written by a non-anarchist, though he comes across as a sympathizer. Revolution and Counter-Revolution in Spain by Felix Morrow is a Trotskyist history. You can read a refutation of it at http://www.infoshop.org/faq/append3.html#app32

IMO, you should use all the books by capitalists that don't mention the collectives you have found (list them in the bibliography) and note that the overwhelming majority of capitalists prefer to pretend that they don't exist. This is because the revolution punctures a big hole in their ideology, so they attempt to erase it from history. Since capitalists, of both liberal and conservative flavors, largely control the media & schools few people have heard of it. You should also find "Objectivity and Liberal Scholarship" by Noam Chomsky, his piece on the Spanish Revolution. He basically argues along similar lines. It also refers to more books you can use. There's a copy in "American Power and the New Mandarins" and "The Chomsky Reader". It's also available stand alone.

Morpheus
3rd March 2004, 02:23
Also, two laisse-faire capitalist critiques:

http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/b...aplan/spain.htm (http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/bcaplan/spain.htm)
http://www.jim.com/cat/blood.htm

There's a refutation at http://www.spunk.org/library/places/spain/...n/sp001532.html (http://www.spunk.org/library/places/spain/sp001532.html)