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schumi
22nd February 2004, 21:18
Well here's something interesting I heard today on the television...
According to some cuban (who now lives in America <_< ) Rock and Roll and the beatles were considered to be "music of the enemy". Can somebody tell me I this is true????? According to the same man the first time the beatles were shown on tv was in 1992&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; thats almost 20years after they broke up. :unsure:

I dont know if this man is a belivable source but it would be very f*cked up if it were true cuz I am a big fan of the Fab 4. :)
BOZG
22nd February 2004, 21:23
They are the enemy of the eardrum and therefore of all mankind that can hear them. They must be destroyed.
mia wallace
23rd February 2004, 06:49
i like their music and will still like it a lot despite they could be the enemy... :rolleyes:
i mean, for example, lots of cappies listen to manu chao&#39;s music who&#39;s a leftist so why shouldn&#39;t we to the beatles?? :ph34r:
Invader Zim
23rd February 2004, 08:37
Money

The best things in life are free
But you can tell me &#39;bout the birds and bees.
Now gimme money THAT&#39;S WHAT I WANT
That&#39;s what I want THAT&#39;S WHAT I WANT
That&#39;s what I want, ye-ye-yeh,
That&#39;s what I want.
Money don&#39;t get everything it&#39;s true.
What it don&#39;t get I can&#39;t use.
So gimme money THAT&#39;S WHAT I WANT
A little money THAT&#39;S WHAT I WANT
That&#39;s what I want, ye-ye-yeh,
That&#39;s what I want.
Yeh gimme money THAT&#39;S WHAT I WANT
A little money THAT&#39;S WHAT I WANT
That&#39;s what I want THAT&#39;S WHAT I WANT
So gimme money THAT&#39;S WHAT I WANT
That&#39;s what I want, ye-ye-yeh,
That&#39;s what I want.
Your lovin&#39; give me a thrill
But your lovin&#39; don&#39;t pay my bill.
Now gimme money THAT&#39;S WHAT I WANT
That&#39;s what I want THAT&#39;S WHAT I WANT
That&#39;s what I want, ye-ye-yeh,
That&#39;s what I want.
Money don&#39;t get everything it&#39;s true.
What it don&#39;t get I can&#39;t use.
So gimme money THAT&#39;S WHAT I WANT
A little money THAT&#39;S WHAT I WANT
That&#39;s what I want, ye-ye-yeh,
That&#39;s what I want.
Yeh gimme money THAT&#39;S WHAT I WANT
A little money THAT&#39;S WHAT I WANT
That&#39;s what I want THAT&#39;S WHAT I WANT
So gimme money THAT&#39;S WHAT I WANT
That&#39;s what I want, ye-ye-yeh,
That&#39;s what I want.


Is all I have to say on the subject.
mia wallace
23rd February 2004, 11:25
can&#39;t buy me love

Can&#39;t buy me love, love
Can&#39;t buy me love

I&#39;ll buy you a diamond ring my friend if it makes you feel alright
I&#39;ll get you anything my friend if it makes you feel alright
&#39;Cause I don&#39;t care too much for money, money can&#39;t buy me love

I&#39;ll give you all I got to give if you say you love me too
I may not have a lot to give but what I got I&#39;ll give to you
I don&#39;t care too much for money, money can&#39;t buy me love

Can&#39;t buy me love, everybody tells me so
Can&#39;t buy me love, no no no, no

Say you don&#39;t need no diamond ring and I&#39;ll be satisfied
Tell me that you want the kind of thing that money just can&#39;t buy
I don&#39;t care too much for money, money can&#39;t buy me love


A-HA&#33; :ph34r:


:P :D :lol: ;)
Invader Zim
23rd February 2004, 15:33
LOL

good point.

Dont get me wrong I like the Beatles but I think they were just out for the money.
Knowledge 6 6 6
23rd February 2004, 17:37
everyone has a mercenary value...

if someone were waving 1 million bucks in ur face, would u not take it?

here&#39;s a better example

say &#036;500 is lying on the street. Nobody&#39;s around. No cars, buses, ppl, etc. Just u, the street, and the money. Would u take it?

I know i would&#33; Damn capitalism has routed into me to think more is better...
Dr. Rosenpenis
23rd February 2004, 20:46
Enigma, they didn&#39;t even write that song&#33;
And rock &#39;n roll was not allowed in the communist bloc throughout most of the 20th century.
That was pretty silly in my mind, but these days that&#39;s all over.
Castro has even had a statue of John Lennon built in Havana.

Read the lyrics to I Me Mine, Imagine, Working Class Hero, Piggies, Power to the People. All of these were written by the Beatles or by former Beatles.
mia wallace
23rd February 2004, 20:59
RedZeppelin and Knowledge have the point. in the society we live in we can&#39;t survive without money and we shouldn&#39;t act as we can. it would be nice if it wouldn&#39;t be that way, but guess what - it is. <_<
they really deserved the money they earned but they haven&#39;t been playing just because of the money. if they had they wouldn&#39;t possiblly done all that great songs with meaningful lyrics cause it wouldn&#39;t be in their interest. the beatles really loved what they did.

that&#39;s the way i see it
BOZG
23rd February 2004, 21:09
They are still the enemy.
mia wallace
23rd February 2004, 21:12
Originally posted by [email protected] 23 2004, 11:09 PM
They are still the enemy.
if you put it like they fought against commies what they never did as far as my knowledge goes.
really guyz, they aren&#39;t that bad?&#33;?
BOZG
23rd February 2004, 21:15
Yes they are
mia wallace
23rd February 2004, 21:32
i believe it is pointless for me to write no, they arn&#39;t, isn&#39;t it? :P
BOZG
23rd February 2004, 21:37
You learn quickly :P
Dr. Rosenpenis
23rd February 2004, 22:18
How can you dislike the Beatles??&#33;&#33;
Rastafari
23rd February 2004, 22:37
How can you dislike the Beatles??&#33;&#33;

step 1: Pour Rubbing Alcohol into your ears
step 2: Use lye-soaked Q-Tips


all done&#33;
dark fairy
24th February 2004, 01:38
well personally i like the beatles... but i can see why it can be seen as the music of the enemy... i mean it promoted a lot of good things because it was just good music but now-a-days i don&#39;t see how it can be seen as that :unsure:
che's long lost daughter
24th February 2004, 19:47
I don&#39;t give a ratfink&#39;s ass with what other people will say about The Beatles. I love them and that&#39;s it.
Postteen
24th February 2004, 20:05
I love the Beatles because of their music and not of their political believes.They were capitalists because they couldn&#39;t be anything else since they were singers and they were selling millions of LP&#39;s all around the world.I&#39;m not trying to say that this was okey.That&#39;s a thing I still dislike about them.But as I said you hear their music and not what they believed.However they often didn&#39;t like the english system and they used to express that through their songs.See "TAXMAN","Piggies"(George&#39;s songs).( or Revolution&#33;) :rolleyes:
Dr. Rosenpenis
24th February 2004, 20:16
"Revolution" has some pretty counter revolutionary lyrics, btw.
schumi
24th February 2004, 20:47
Well I know the beatles werent communists or leftists for that matter but I just think it was VERY stupid to call them the enemy and then 20 years later build a statue for them :unsure:
shyguywannadie
25th February 2004, 10:54
I love the beatles.
I think they are the best band of all time.


As for quoting their songs and thecontradictions, well McCarney and co were always so damn high im suprised they ever knew what was going on.


I love them&#33;
Don't Change Your Name
28th February 2004, 02:02
Who cares???

After all you can&#39;t just expect all the artists you like to speak about the Zapatistas or against yankee imperialism.
Most artists don&#39;t have ideals anyway.
synthesis
28th February 2004, 05:08
&#39;Taxman&#39; is actually one of the most reactionary songs I&#39;ve ever heard.

It&#39;s pretty good, though.
brazilianfighter
6th March 2004, 17:14
well fellas, after a long period not posting anything, this topic is asking for my intervention
no, I don&#39;t think those four guys from Liverpool were or are the enemy
okay, they are pretty famous and made a lot of money and surely were glad to make all that money
however, you cannot call them "the enemy"
I&#39;ll give you some reasons:
- they were working class (although being working class doesn&#39;t necessarily mean that you&#39;re non-cappie)
-if you give me counter-revolutionary songs or cappies songs, like money, taxman, and others (I don&#39;t consider revolution as counter-revolutionary song), I give you can&#39;t buy me love, all you need is love, nowhere man, piggies, etc.
-John: if not a revolutionary, at least a leftist, and George, with his oriental influence, certainly cannot be called a "money-lover"
-the "so called" communist countries like the USSR and Cuba had so many mistakes that you can&#39;t take them as the best example for accusing people or stuff as "the enemy" (Trotsky was consider an enemy by the Stalinists. Was he a capitalist? I don&#39;t think so)
I think I made my point
see ya mates
FatFreeMilk
6th March 2004, 17:51
Ok, I guess I&#39;m a few decades late but the other day I heard a song by the beatles (rock &#39;n&#39; roll music) and I loved it&#33; Prior to that, the only beatles I&#39;d heard was yellow submarine (that was my favorite song when I was a kid) and some other one&#39;s that were on my dads vintage beatles record. Then, the needle on the ghetto ass record player broke and I never heard them again.

I was listening to an oldies station the other day (I think it was thursday) because I felt like listening to something new and then they played that song. Afterwards they said it was the beatles and I was like "kick ass&#33;". Later on they played another beatles song about California girls and I was "like wow, they actually do have some good music".

I can&#39;t believe I&#39;ve just barely realised how good their music actually is :) What a nerd.
atlanticche
6th March 2004, 18:06
its Cuba, a country revolutionised and then turned back into what it was before, just that the leader looks different and has a different name,
it could be true as in countries that have failed becoming communist they become a kind of dictatorship and are kept segregated from the enemy(everyone else) and amazing music like the beatles would probably be seen as far to insperation that it could inspire outbreaks you know shit like that so maybe it could be true
Dr. Rosenpenis
6th March 2004, 18:19
California Gilrs is by the Beach Boys, FFM. :lol:

Just go on Google and look up a Beatles discograhy, then download some of the songs.
They&#39;re all good.

Or invest a few bucks on Rubber Soul or the White Album or Revolver.
Really good stuff.
All the tracks are great.
The Beatles are worth every penny.
shyguywannadie
6th March 2004, 18:27
ignore the last post.

download all their songs from the net like i did :-) and yes they are ALL very good
BOZG
6th March 2004, 18:42
I can&#39;t believe I&#39;ve just barely realised how good their music actually is What a nerd.


*hugs*, it&#39;s ok, I don&#39;t know what they&#39;ve done to you but it&#39;s ok. We&#39;ll get you the help you need :P
FatFreeMilk
6th March 2004, 21:08
:lol: my bad. Crazy oldies stations. Damn, at least I know I like the beach boys now :D Or maybe just that one song.

yeah maybe I&#39;ll go buy one of those albums that you speak of. I don&#39;t download music cus I don&#39;t wanna slow down my ghetto ass computer any more than it is. Would you happen to know what cd california girls is off of?

what&#39;s wrong bozg? don&#39;t be skerred now.

*hey look&#33; it&#39;s my one year anniversary :rolleyes: