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leftwinger2007
14th July 2016, 13:10
Hello/Hi my question is would it be correct to say that Islamism Right Wing what I mean is I ask because since many Right Wing Conservatives promote Islamophobia and even Anti Arab Racism by the way I know not all Muslims are Islamists or support the idea of Political Islam I don't believe all Muslims are the same as Anjem Choudary I have a Muslim Friend living in Holland his Family is Iraqi he is Secular he may believe in Islam as a Religion but he does not believe in Islam as a Political Ideology like the Muslim Brotherhood or believes the Quran is a Constitution anyways when I ask is Islamism Right Wing not Left Wing what I mean is in Islamism the Islamists believe that in Islam both Muslims and Non Muslims pay Taxes Non Muslims pay the Jizya Muslims pay a Zakat which is Charity Muslims must pay by law to a Islamic Government/State or to Mosques if there is no Caliphate/Caliphs Zakat is 2.5% for Muslims who pay it Islam also has Sadaqah which is Voluntary Charity it seems this policy has more in common with Right Wing Conservatives than with the Left the Right Wing/Conservative Capitalists believe in lower Taxes for the Wealthy the Rich a Flat Tax Across the Board and say they believe in Voluntary Charity just like Islamists both Islamists and Right Wing Conservatives believe in Private Property. Both both Islamists and Right Wing Conservatives are Anti Labor Unions they want to Ban Trade Unions and Strikes. both Islamists and Right Wing Conservatives reject Secularism want to mix Religion with Politics and reject Feminism and reject Socialism therefor I believe both Islamists and Right Wing Conservatives have more in common what does everyone here think many Right Wing Conservatives believe that Barack Obama the American Democrat President is a Black Muslim Marxist Socialist Communist I found this book thank you for your time ?
Fundamentals of Islamic Economic System
Fundamentals of Islamic Economic System
By Dr. Muhammad Sharif Chaudhry
CHAPTER 20
ISLAM AND OTHER ECONOMIC SYSTEMS
Islam and Capitalism
What is Capitalism?
Features of Capitalism
Comparison with Islam
Rights to Ownership
Economic Freedom
Monopoly
Institutions of Interest
Exploitation
Distribution of Wealth
Islam and Socialism
What is Socialism?
Distinctive Features of Socialism
Comparison with Islam
Ownership
Materialism
Regimentation and Totalitarianism
Economic Equality
The most dominant economic systems in the modern world at present are capitalism and socialism. The capitalism is the dominant economic philosophy in the western world mainly comprising Western Europe and Northern America under the leadership of United States. The socialism has been dominant economic ideology in USSR, Peoples Republic of China and some countries of Eastern Europe. Although socialism, with downfall and dissolution of its former leader Soviet Union, has received a great setback, yet it still holds a lot of relevance as an economic philosophy.
However, before comparing Islamic economic system with capitalism and socialism, we would briefly introduce these two systems to our readers and then we shall make comparison.
macsrw
27th July 2016, 05:45
Short answer: Islamism is largely a form of reactionary anti-imperialism. Islamists and the Left share many of the same enemies, but few of the same goals. Remember that the vast majority of the so-called Muslim world exists in areas that were and are colonized by the West. Islamism largely arose in opposition to this colonization. However, they seek to displant that colonization (which is good) and replace it with a strictly conservative, anti-feminist, nonegalitarian, religiously-based order (which is not so good). Of course, Islamism is by no means a monolith, and you will find vast differences between groups and ideological tendencies. A leftist may, for instance, cautiously support Hezbollah or Hamas when it fights against Israeli colonization, but a leftist may not support ISIS or Al-Qaeda under any circumstances.
Kamaradas
25th August 2016, 12:27
Islamists have proclaimed anti-capitalism and have at least as much credibility in this as the Western left. Still, if you mean economically, it's not that right-wing. Generally, 'left-wing' refers to an economic stance as well, so you needn't exclude them from this.
SkepticalofYourDogma
11th October 2016, 23:13
How can you have a phobia of an ideology?
ckaihatsu
18th October 2016, 15:44
Islamists have proclaimed anti-capitalism and have at least as much credibility in this as the Western left.
The credibility *doesn't exist* when the 'political' aspect of the political-economy, or ideology (Islamism), is *Sharia law* -- which is religious-sectarian regarding civil rights matters.
Still, if you mean economically, it's not that right-wing. Generally, 'left-wing' refers to an economic stance as well, so you needn't exclude them from this.
Economically I don't see any defined specific *alternative* to capitalism, aside from the prohibition of usury.
How can you have a phobia of an ideology?
There's no 'phobia' expressed here, in the sense of a *fear* or *knee-jerk* reaction to such a potential regime -- let's call it a 'serious concern', considering today's existence of the Islamic State. (Eliminating the Islamic State could be done in an instant *politically* among the major powers like the U.S., Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar, but it *isn't* being done, thereby exposing the tacit support these countries have for each other despite the problem of ISIS / IS still existing.)
Homo Songun
18th October 2016, 17:30
Anticapitalism is not the same thing as pro-socialism. Islam, alongside other major religions, predates capitalism of course. For its part, the Catholic church has always had an uneasy relationship with capitalism. Here's the current Pope:
Some people continue to defend trickle-down theories which assume that economic growth, encouraged by a free market, will inevitably succeed in bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world ...This opinion, which has never been confirmed by the facts, expresses a crude and naive trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power and in the sacralized workings of the prevailing economic system.
I do think that here, Francis is concerned with "false idols" as much as genuine compassion. Setting aside genuinely leftwing currents in the church, like Liberation theology, a contributing factor to traditional Jew hatred in Europe was the fact that the medieval church banned "usury", meaning Jews made up a large proportion of proto-capitalism's "bankers", and Islam still bans "usury" afaik.
DabeDread
21st October 2016, 13:07
I live in Indonesia, where we have a totally complex history of ideology
In the past (1910-1930) we have a hybrid model of "islam and communism"
Even Indonesian Communist Party (PKI), was born under the Sarekat Islam - an anticolonialism moslem organization
Later, Sarekat Islam is divided: "Red Sarekat Islam" (associated with communism) and "White Sarekat Islam" (associated with islamism)
The red one become Indonesian Communist Party, and as you know it was the biggest communist organization belong USSR and CPC in mid-1950
As I know, the socialist political economy system is already becomes the Sarekat Islam main purposes (and the clash of Sarekat Islam is more due to the differences in the political program priorities: education vis-a-vis agrarian reform, but basically the Sarekat Islam is agreed the both program)
I'm not a moeslem, but I know that islam is not totally universal system of arabic dogmatic
So I think in Indonesian cases, islam can go hand in hand with communism - marxism
Even, my friend, one of the Militant founder (branch of International Marxist Tendency) is a devout moeslem
And in I'm not sure, but I think Pakistan Communist Party also try to synchronize the islamism and communism CMIIW
Ibn.AL.Muqafaa
14th December 2016, 19:52
Islamism is definitely right wing.
As an Arab, many Islamists are misogynistic , homophobic , the clerics have brainwashed many people that socialism is kufur meaning heretics.
Ibn.AL.Muqafaa
17th December 2016, 20:08
Anticapitalism is not the same thing as pro-socialism. Islam, alongside other major religions, predates capitalism of course. For its part, the Catholic church has always had an uneasy relationship with capitalism. Here's the current Pope:
I do think that here, Francis is concerned with "false idols" as much as genuine compassion. Setting aside genuinely leftwing currents in the church, like Liberation theology, a contributing factor to traditional Jew hatred in Europe was the fact that the medieval church banned "usury", meaning Jews made up a large proportion of proto-capitalism's "bankers", and Islam still bans "usury" afaik.
But doesn't the current pope have left wing views.
(A)
17th December 2016, 20:17
All religion is reactionary.
RosaAntonio
17th December 2016, 20:23
Islamism is reactionary in general. Once upon a time Qaddafi tried to create a synthesis between the Left and Islam, but he was a miserable failure.
criticalrealist
19th December 2016, 03:25
I agree with much of what has already been said. "Islamism" is a translation of the Arabic, ꞌIslāmiyyaẗ (دَعْوَة). In Islam, ꞌIslāmiyyaẗ is a spectrum. For instance, the current Turkish government accepts a version of ꞌIslāmiyyaẗ. However, Turkey and, say, ʾal-Qāʿidaẗ or ISIL have little in common. What unites adherents of ꞌIslāmiyyaẗ is a rejection of innovation (as understood in Islam), secularism, and a desire to follow Islam as it was originally practiced by Muḥammad and his companions.
ballen
24th August 2017, 01:02
Islam is the legal version of Nazism as it goes under the guise of religion instead of being a political ideology, sure it is not 100% correct, but Hitler had SS divisions of muslims that liked the idea of the final solution, woman to stay home and pump out babies is another thing they share, men are superior is another the both share, they share a lot if you really look in to it. ofc then there is the 6 year old Aisha who married Mohammed the warlord(Prophet), while the nazis forced the criminals convicted to wear pink triangles and sometimes castrated depending on the age of the victim
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