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Y2A
21st February 2004, 17:32
Rate this rant from 1 to 10.

I, like many others, have noticed this trend of our news sources declining into entertainment to keep the ignorant masses that plague our country satisfiyed and I for one am tired of it.

For once I would like to turn on the news and find real news!

It is a shame that Fox News and CNN have become whores for ratings to the point where there are now entire segments devoted to "Marthas Trial" or "Jacko Molesting kids" or "Janets tit" or about a million other pieces of crap stories that pass off for "journalism" these days.

Whatever happened to the real stories??? What about this injustice of a sentence given to Congressman Bill Janklow? Is this not "good" enough to be reported??? Is this not a REAL story??? Of course not because we all know that 5 seconds of footage of a black entertainers tit is much more important then a rich congressman that gets away with murder.

A tribute to the great "informative" stories given by the mass media is the mass ignorance to the problems in Afganistan before 9/11. And yet nothing has change. The media still keeps that American people ignortant to actual problems outside the U.S.

The combination of media and entertainment is by far the biggest factor attributed to this "ignorant american" image that is rampent amoung foreigners. And you know what is truely sad is that to a certain degree they are right. Enough of trying to hide it.

But of course, like with 9/11, nothing will change. But atleast I can say with absolute certainty that CNN, FoxNews, and other entertainment-media have disinigrated to the point where we can call them attention whores.

Thank you.

New Tolerance
21st February 2004, 18:19
if 10 is the best then, I give it a 9.

I'm not sure about the attention whore part, that's how the system is set up, if they don't do these things fewer people will watch them, and their organizations will be out competed and collaspe. So they are in a way kind of doing it out of desperation. Which makes you realize how messed up the social structure is.

Any predictions where the media will be 20 years from now?

Individual
21st February 2004, 18:26
I'll give it a 7 or 8 due to the topic.

I think that we all forget to realize that the media does what it does because the American public watches that crap. If nobody watched it, they wouldn't play it.

Now obviously there are some in America that don't watch the media, and don't deal with 'typical' American b/s. This country is on a downward spiral. Politicians and the Media are to blame. But its really the majority of the public that is so brainwashed that a lot of us have become 'stupid and ignorant' to reality.

I begin to question how much power that politicians and congressmen/women actually have. I really believe that the media has almost complete control over what happens to this country, for they can decide what to put out there. Who know, maybe one day we will be CBS states of America.

che's long lost daughter
21st February 2004, 18:39
American media only show things that would make the country look good in the eyes of the viewers. What is happening in the real world is kept from the people who remain ignorant on how much life in the U$ sucks.

New Tolerance
21st February 2004, 18:39
I think conformity has alot to do with it. If alot of people around are watching all of this, and you don't, it will be kind of hard to make friends.

Y2A
21st February 2004, 18:43
Originally posted by che's long lost [email protected] 21 2004, 07:39 PM
American media only show things that would make the country look good in the eyes of the viewers. What is happening in the real world is kept from the people who remain ignorant on how much life in the U$ sucks.
No it does not and that is not the point of my rant. It is the entertainment factor to get ratings not a bunch of rich men controling our brains.

che's long lost daughter
21st February 2004, 18:47
Well, that is just my rant in light of your rant

Individual
21st February 2004, 18:53
No it does not and that is not the point of my rant. It is the entertainment factor to get ratings not a bunch of rich men controling our brains.

It is the entertainment factor. However do not become blind that they do not have control over a large percentage of what the American public thinks. Most people (outside of Che-Lives, so don't judge the fact that we may not fall under this) only get their news and information from the big news corporations. The news corporatioins know this, therefore they are able to have control over what the American public thinks.

All these corporations care about is ratings, I will agree. However they still have control on what goes out there and what the public will think about issues. At any given time, you here an Americanized version on issues concerning the real world. Little excerpts from the whole story, leaving a bias in nearly everything. The public hears these bits and peices and finishes the story in their own minds, leaving a false impression on what is really the case. This is the brainwashing I am talking about. As much as you want to deny it. The majority of the public goes by what they hear on the news, for thats all that is readily available to most of the public.

New Tolerance
21st February 2004, 18:55
I heard that US news media will use the phase "Evil Doer" with a straight face.

Y2A
21st February 2004, 19:30
Originally posted by [email protected] 21 2004, 07:53 PM

No it does not and that is not the point of my rant. It is the entertainment factor to get ratings not a bunch of rich men controling our brains.

It is the entertainment factor. However do not become blind that they do not have control over a large percentage of what the American public thinks. Most people (outside of Che-Lives, so don't judge the fact that we may not fall under this) only get their news and information from the big news corporations. The news corporatioins know this, therefore they are able to have control over what the American public thinks.

All these corporations care about is ratings, I will agree. However they still have control on what goes out there and what the public will think about issues. At any given time, you here an Americanized version on issues concerning the real world. Little excerpts from the whole story, leaving a bias in nearly everything. The public hears these bits and peices and finishes the story in their own minds, leaving a false impression on what is really the case. This is the brainwashing I am talking about. As much as you want to deny it. The majority of the public goes by what they hear on the news, for thats all that is readily available to most of the public.
I do agree to a certain extent. But the thing is the only type of news source that will satisfy the people on these boards are "Americans are Nazis" or "Damn Imperialists" etc... news sources. What makes that crap credible? What because it attacks the U.S? That makes it credible? Please that's BS and that is what is wrong with the modern communist movement. You will buy into anything that degrades the U.S and that is the truth.

Osman Ghazi
21st February 2004, 20:26
Well, considering that America is, if not the root cause of the problems of the world, at the very least one of the major forces attempting to keep the world the way it is. Also, I highly doubt that you've ever picked up a copy of Worker's World so you don't really have an informed opinion.

Individual
21st February 2004, 21:04
I do agree to a certain extent. But the thing is the only type of news source that will satisfy the people on these boards are "Americans are Nazis" or "Damn Imperialists" etc... news sources. What makes that crap credible? What because it attacks the U.S? That makes it credible? Please that's BS and that is what is wrong with the modern communist movement. You will buy into anything that degrades the U.S and that is the truth.

Considering that I never said that, you have formed your own opinion. I do not think that everything needs to be anti-American. However my point is that things need to be honest and fair, and should not always play us as the good guy, when this clearly would not be the case.

No, I don't believe everything that is anti-American. However much of it is true. I believe things that have solid evidence, with proof behind it.

To flip your statement around.

"But the thing is the only type of news source that will satisfy the people of America are "Americans are superior" or "Damn other countries" etc... news sources. What makes that crap credible? What because it supports the U.S? That makes it credible? Please that's BS and that is what is wrong with the modern Americans."

This is completely true on the reverse side. So do not attack the truth.

MiDnIgHtMaRaUdEr
22nd February 2004, 03:39
Something that really annoyed me, was instead of focusing on Howard Dean's campaign and his platform, the media feels it is more important to show the "Dean scream" 53948750 times. That, along with the Jackson incident, just shows how messed up the priorities of the media are. The news hardly even highlights more important international issues, but yet insists on critically analyzing these trivial mishaps.

Y2A
22nd February 2004, 03:51
Originally posted by Osman [email protected] 21 2004, 09:26 PM
Well, considering that America is, if not the root cause of the problems of the world, at the very least one of the major forces attempting to keep the world the way it is. Also, I highly doubt that you've ever picked up a copy of Worker's World so you don't really have an informed opinion.
Yes, because, if you actually read any of my posts you would know that I read alot of Chomsky. But of course, and evil imperialist can't possibly read communist or anarchist literature. See you prove my point. You think that everyone is brainwashed with the exception of you and the others that share your views.


Something that really annoyed me, was instead of focusing on Howard Dean's campaign and his platform, the media feels it is more important to show the "Dean scream" 53948750 times. That, along with the Jackson incident, just shows how messed up the priorities of the media are. The news hardly even highlights more important international issues, but yet insists on critically analyzing these trivial mishaps.

True, but I don't think that many people would agree with his issues anyway. I surely did not. I for one would like to see Nader join the Democrats in order to actually have a shot at the presidency, I also like Edwards but it looks like he will lose to Kerry, originally I was a Clark supporter however.

Don't Change Your Name
22nd February 2004, 05:46
I agree with some things said here.

I think people should think for themselves more. They have become so dependant on what the media tells them. And as we know the media tends to lie, make misunderstadings, create stupid news to fill gaps, and use Newspeak.

redstar2000
22nd February 2004, 10:06
"Bread and circuses" is a really old complaint.

But they still haven't made owning and watching the dummyvision compulsory -- you can always turn it off or better, throw it away.

Thoughtful books are still being written and published -- though hunting through the trash to find them involves some effort.

There are a number of good sites for news from a left perspective. If you want sound journalism from the capitalist perspective, read The Economist.

It is clearly against the interests of the ruling class to have a knowledgeable and informed proletariat...and they naturally do all they can to keep people as wrapped up in mindless trivia as they can. It has always been an "uphill" struggle to oppose that...especially during periods when things are "going well" for the system.

But complaining about it is foolish...you may as well complain about some CEO's obscene compensation package while his corporation tanks.

It's "the way things work".

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