Class Genocide

[Moskitto]

So proffesional anti-communists talk about "class genocide" like it's exclusive to "communism."

Yeah like capitalism hasn't done class genocide, Remember Titanic? Like not letting 3rd class people getting onto liferafts (yes it did happen, there's actual witnesses.)

And remember the people who are so poor they can't afford food. Now people dying because they don't have money isn't what they'd call "class genocide" is it?

[Mclaren]

You can't compare systems i not saying the captalism hasen't done bad things but look how you have scaned up russia

[Moskitto]

:confused: I didn't mention Russia

[Guest 128411319]

1) The Titanic as an example of genocide? Are you serious?

2) The fact that poor people are poor is not any more an example of genocide than something as ridiculous as the Titanic.

Look Moskitto, the true irony inherent in Communists is that they are in fact the ones who preach division among classes. Marxist theory is based on the fact that those who do not own the means of production are MORE FIT to rule than those who do. Capitalism doesn't give a hoot in hell about so-called "classes." The proof of this is in the pudding: the natural development of the middle class in capitalist systems...its constituents indeed having no class at all (no pun intended).

[Valkyrie]

It's not a matter of who is MORE FIT to rule;it is the matter that the proletariat and ALL the working class is cut out of any say over their own production, such done by corporotism, hereditary wealth, and just the fact that under 10% of the population have a stronghold on wealth.

[HardcoreCommie]

who controls corporations?

[Moskitto]

try reading the other example of people being Unable to afford.

40% of food of wasted. I know a capitalist who admits that.

[Dreadnaht1]

I'll admit to 40% of food being wasting in my home. Makes me feel pretty guilty so I try and eat as little as possible.

-Dread

[Moskitto]

40% of food is wasted by industries as well.

I onion peeling machines the onions have to be a precise size. This means those which aren't are thrown away.

Also, In nicely packed vegetables, you might notice that they're all the same size, Is that natural? No. So where does the stuff that isn't used go? It's disposed of.

[CommieBastard]

You might also note the fact that the EU has 'mountains' of surplus food, and 'lakes' of surplus ingestible liquids. How can such an extensive amount of regularly wasted food be justified, while people in africa are starving?

And guest, just because the classes in western 'democracies' have shifted ever towards the middle class, does not mean that the class system has evaporated. Quite the reverse, it is now even more extreme. The bourgoisie are in the western democracies working primarily in the service industires, the proletariat are now restircted to whole countries, such as the African and South east asian countries.

[booga]

Quote: from CommieBastard on 10:28 pm on Jan. 8, 2002
You might also note the fact that the EU has 'mountains' of surplus food, and 'lakes' of surplus ingestible liquids. How can such an extensive amount of regularly wasted food be justified, while people in africa are starving?



right. there is some deal going on in Africa right now, hmm i was just wondering how Che's theory fit into whats going on over there right now but i know it has to do with industrialization and production. im sorry im so stupid with specifics but all my stats are at home.

anyway my old best friend, her mother traveled the world and she belong to some group that promoted ending world hunger. well back in 1985 it was reported that world hunger had ceased thats why i dont understand.

in my twisted perceptions i can see a class genocide but what worries me is that it no one will see it coming until its too late...uh i should enroll in "theology" but first i think i will take "hostage and terrist negotiations" at the local college.

[Guest 128411319]

"The bourgoisie are in the western democracies working primarily in the service industires, the proletariat are now restircted to whole countries, such as the African and South east asian countries."

Put another way, even the working class in western capitalist democracies are considered "bourgeoise," while citizens of noncapitalist nations still suffer in poverty. Indeed.