Freeloader
3rd June 2016, 14:44
[The following stems from a reply i made in opposing ideologies re: EU, and has not been permitted for some reason]
A "communist" position of pro-EU or anti-EU in the context of the current referendum for the UK to stay or leave is flawed. To look at the choice inverted is to vote for; Austerity Capitalist EU or Austerity Capitalist 'Independence'.
Jeremy Corbyn does not disappoint by what he says in his pro EU stance, but for what he is not saying. For not pointing out that the crises of the EU from Greece to Britain and Ukraine etc. flows from the current crises of capitalism. And that the only real solution to problems of austerity, immigration and more niche issues such as fish quotas etc, is a planned socialist economy and the abolition of capitalism.(Of course to what degree Corbyn is a socialist is another matter).
Being independent from the EU or remaining in the EU will not fundamentally protect, workers rights, or "human rights", or defend against TTIP etc. Only the active struggle of the working class and the rise in power of their organizations can defend against these things.
A "left wing" IN or OUT can only try to colour the bourgoise referendum a shade of red. Because ultimately the question of the Referendum is a bourgeois question brought to the table by them and for them. Its not just an accident that we see such a squabble in the conservative party, and that we have boris vs cameron as the faces of referendum.
The power of the British and European workers can and will overcome any legal and technical oppression placed upon them whether this is UK law or via EU regulations. After all the working class is the most powerful social force, a workers government armed with socialism is not simply going to bow to pre-existing convention, constitution or law.(So long as they are not betrayed by their own leadership).
The taking up of sides on the EU debate by socialists and by some trade unions in many ways reflects the current weakness and lack of confidence in the independent workers and socialist organizations. The result is a political landscape that is dominated by nationalism (in the case of Scotland) and now the EU question for the rest of the UK. The voice of a genuine alternative is muffled or whispered as an afterward.
The job of revolutionaries is not to put a left wing spin on the many manifestations of the bourgeoisie in their response to the current crises. Its our job to point out that these so called solutions are not solutions and to argue clearly and boldly for the fundamental transformation of society.
This being said a worker is not "wrong" to vote either for or against the EU. The vote will be cast as what they believe is in their best interests. Whereas the real truth of the vote is supporting a faction of the capitalist class to support their own interests.
There's nothing inherently clever or right with abstaining with a vote, but in this instance its seems the choice is simply " you are going to get kicked in your testicles, would you like for me to come at you from behind or the front?
A "communist" position of pro-EU or anti-EU in the context of the current referendum for the UK to stay or leave is flawed. To look at the choice inverted is to vote for; Austerity Capitalist EU or Austerity Capitalist 'Independence'.
Jeremy Corbyn does not disappoint by what he says in his pro EU stance, but for what he is not saying. For not pointing out that the crises of the EU from Greece to Britain and Ukraine etc. flows from the current crises of capitalism. And that the only real solution to problems of austerity, immigration and more niche issues such as fish quotas etc, is a planned socialist economy and the abolition of capitalism.(Of course to what degree Corbyn is a socialist is another matter).
Being independent from the EU or remaining in the EU will not fundamentally protect, workers rights, or "human rights", or defend against TTIP etc. Only the active struggle of the working class and the rise in power of their organizations can defend against these things.
A "left wing" IN or OUT can only try to colour the bourgoise referendum a shade of red. Because ultimately the question of the Referendum is a bourgeois question brought to the table by them and for them. Its not just an accident that we see such a squabble in the conservative party, and that we have boris vs cameron as the faces of referendum.
The power of the British and European workers can and will overcome any legal and technical oppression placed upon them whether this is UK law or via EU regulations. After all the working class is the most powerful social force, a workers government armed with socialism is not simply going to bow to pre-existing convention, constitution or law.(So long as they are not betrayed by their own leadership).
The taking up of sides on the EU debate by socialists and by some trade unions in many ways reflects the current weakness and lack of confidence in the independent workers and socialist organizations. The result is a political landscape that is dominated by nationalism (in the case of Scotland) and now the EU question for the rest of the UK. The voice of a genuine alternative is muffled or whispered as an afterward.
The job of revolutionaries is not to put a left wing spin on the many manifestations of the bourgeoisie in their response to the current crises. Its our job to point out that these so called solutions are not solutions and to argue clearly and boldly for the fundamental transformation of society.
This being said a worker is not "wrong" to vote either for or against the EU. The vote will be cast as what they believe is in their best interests. Whereas the real truth of the vote is supporting a faction of the capitalist class to support their own interests.
There's nothing inherently clever or right with abstaining with a vote, but in this instance its seems the choice is simply " you are going to get kicked in your testicles, would you like for me to come at you from behind or the front?