North Korea invents hangover free alcohol

[Sentinel]

Jucheists, all is forgiven.




North Korea's latest boast: Alcohol without the hangover

Lin Taylor (http://www.twitter.com/linnytayls), for CNN

Updated 0917 GMT (1717 HKT) January 20, 2016

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North Korea says it has invented a type of liquor that doesn't cause hangovers
The liquor is made from a unique blend of ginseng and glutinous rice

(CNN)It put the world on edge after its supposed hydrogen bomb test (http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/05/asia/north-korea-seismic-event/). But perhaps we can learn to love North Korea (http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/29/world/asia/north-korea-fast-facts/) now that it claims to have invented a revolutionary liquor that won't leave you bleary-eyed and hungover.

And no, apparently it's not water.

According to state-run newspaper Pyongyang Times (http://www.naenara.com.kp/en/order/pytimes/?page=Economy&no=21423), this "suave" liquor is made from ginseng extract, and uses glutinous rice instead of sugar.

This secret blend of six-year-old ginseng and "scorched rice," produced by Taedonggang Foodstuff Factory researchers, is what makes the alcohol hangover-free, the article reported.

Koryo Liquor, which is made of six-year-old Kaesong Koryo insam, known as being highest in medicinal effect, and the scorched rice, is highly appreciated by experts and lovers as it is suave and causes no hangover," Jong Hwa Sun wrote.

"Koryo Liquor" has been such a success, it has been registered as a "national scientific and technological hit" across the communist country, coming first in the food sector festival, the newspaper reported.

But the amber-colored liquor pales in comparison to a previous invention.
Last year, North Korean scientists released a vaccine called Kumdang-2 (http://kumdang2.com/) that could reportedly cure (https://www.nknews.org/2015/06/pyongyang-claims-to-invent-cure-for-mers/) HIV/AIDS, drug addiction, cancer, MERS and Ebola.

[Os Cangaceiros]

Uh, rice liquor already exists widely in Asia. You can still get a hangover from it. I'm pretty sure that adding ginseng extract won't help that either, lol

[ckaihatsu]

"Koryo Liquor" has been such a success, it has been registered as a "national scientific and technological hit" across the communist country, coming first in the food sector festival, the newspaper reported.


I thought Food Sector Festival '15 was *waaaayyyy* better than Food Sector Festivals '10 through '14 -- !


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[John Nada]

Well that settles it. The DPRK under Leader Kim Jong Un is on the socialist path. /thread :cool:

But seriously, it's probably based on traditional Korean medicine, probably similar to traditional Chinese medicine. "Scorched glutinous rice" is probably rice malt. Since it's made with heat in the mashing process, it has yang energy. The ginseng is from Koryo, former capital of the Goryeo Kingdom and imparts yin energy. It's added as a bitterer, which are said to reduce hangovers and upset stomachs. This is pretty much just a north Korean herbal liquor. Whether it coincidentally balances yin and yang and actually is hangover-free too, or if it's like Jagermister, I don't know.

This sounds like one of those stories making fun of north Koreans' crappy English translations. PSY-War's on now that the DPRK supposedly has the H-bomb. The so-called "AIDS, addiction, cancer, MERS cure vaccine" is actually purified ginseng extract solution for injection, and said to still take with other medications like chemotherapy and anti-retroviral drugs. It also appears more for liver diseases or as a general tonic, which is not outrageous and actually done in the West. Might actually need to protect your liver drinking that north Korean liquor though(milkthristle proven to work, and IME does reduce hangovers).

Though it's funny they claim no addiction in the DPRK:lol:, and it lists Philopan(brand name for methamphetamine in Japan, like Desoxyn/Methadrine in the US), Promidol (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trimeperidine)(Soviet Demerol?), dihydroetorphine(very, very, very fucking strong Chinese opioid, like 10,000 times stronger than morphine, sometimes used instead of methadone for addiction) as indications for injectable ginseng extract. Maybe for hepatitis C?

[Os Cangaceiros]

But seriously, it's probably based on traditional Korean medicine, probably similar to traditional Chinese medicine. "Scorched glutinous rice" is probably rice malt. Since it's made with heat in the mashing process, it has yang energy. The ginseng is from Koryo, former capital of the Goryeo Kingdom and imparts yin energy.

lol

Rice ethanol + ginseng. If anyone wants to test it out, just go to the store and load up on sake and ginseng extract. Consume liberally and report findings

[Sewer Socialist]

Not sure if you're being ironic, Juan. But if anyone is unsure, ethanol is ethanol, as Os Cangaiceros says. Non-ethanol alcohols like methanol contribute to hangovers, which is why a good distillation makes for better spirits.

The journalist who wrote this is terribly misinformed on what fermentation is - fermentation only works with sugars, whether the sugar comes from rice, sugar cane, juice, agave, barley, corn, wheat, etc. And the only desirable product of fermentation is ethanol, and sometimes carbon dioxide.

To be fair, I have no idea what Kaesong Koryo insam is, so I couldn't say for certain it doesn't cure hangovers. But, it is a scientific fact that the next morning, lingering alcohols like that awful methanol are much more easily digested with a little ethanol, which is why the "hair of the dog" isn't just a suggestion to get drunk again.

[ckaihatsu]

Psy war's coming. Which side are you on. (grin)

My favorite performer at Food Sector Festival was Raucous Musical Group #17. Can't wait for Generic-Thon 2020 -- !

[ckaihatsu]

(Their catchphrase was 'We are raucous for proletarian struggle.')


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[John Nada]

Not sure if you're being ironic, Juan. But if anyone is unsure, ethanol is ethanol, as Os Cangaiceros says. Non-ethanol alcohols like methanol contribute to hangovers, which is why a good distillation makes for better spirits.Sometimes I'm not sure if I'm being ironic:unsure:. Everything's like one big joke!:ohmy:

But no, herbal liqueurs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Herbal_liqueurs) are actually a thing. Some of the more famous ones are absinthe and Jagermister. Older pseudoscience claimed that the bitters (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitters) promote the flow of digestive fluids and prevented upset stomachs and hangovers. That's the point of the quinine in tonic water, a bitter supposedly to prevent upset stomachs. In the case of Koryo liquor, the bitter herb is ginseng, and it appears rice malt is used instead of sugar, honey or corn syrup as a sweetener, not just as a base malt for the wort. Which makes sense, since sugar cane and sugar beets probably don't grow good in the DPRK.

That stuff about yin and yang energy is a part of Chinese medicine. Korea has a distinct culture, yet it has a heavy influence of Confucianism, Taoism and Chinese culture, and more importantly the PRC is a major trading partner. The yin/yang is the feminine/masculine elements that complement each other. So to avoid an excess of either, yin or yang foods and medicine are added to balance things out. Yes, this is serious, and yes, it's bullshit. Like the old Western medical theories in the on aether and humors.
The journalist who wrote this is terribly misinformed on what fermentation is - fermentation only works with sugars, whether the sugar comes from rice, sugar cane, juice, agave, barley, corn, wheat, etc. And the only desirable product of fermentation is ethanol, and sometimes carbon dioxide.Sometimes other alcohols in small amounts are desired for flavor and effects. The higher alcohols alter the effects slightly and impart a bite. Pure ethanol diluted barely has any flavor and a cleaner drunk, which is nice but not always desired.
To be fair, I have no idea what Kaesong Koryo insam is, so I couldn't say for certain it doesn't cure hangovers. But, it is a scientific fact that the next morning, lingering alcohols like that awful methanol are much more easily digested with a little ethanol, which is why the "hair of the dog" isn't just a suggestion to get drunk again.From what I gather, it's just rice wine with ginseng as a bitter.

Ethanol is used to treat posionings from other alcohols. Ethylene glycol, isopropanol and methanol are not that toxic themselves, but are metabolized into some very toxic shit like oxalic acid, acetone and formaldehyde. The human body preferentially breaks down ethanol into acetaldehyde and acetic acid over other alcohols. Acetaldehyde is what may cause hangovers and just general shitty feelings. Antabuse is supposed to increase this to deter drinking, and there's a tranquilzer called Paral made from acetaldehyde(haven't tried it).
Psy war's coming. Which side are you on. (grin)Too late, psychological warfare is already here!:ninja: Turn on the TV, see an ad, a show exalting bourgeois values or the news?

[Quail]

lol

Rice ethanol + ginseng. If anyone wants to test it out, just go to the store and load up on sake and ginseng extract. Consume liberally and report findings

We should totally do this as a revleft experiment.

[ckaihatsu]

old Western medical theories in the on aether and humors.


Hmmmmm, the 19th century 'ether' seems to be as good as any at this point since we still don't have an adequate theory for how gravity works....





Empty space, curved space, and the ether

Newtonian gravity theory assumes that gravity propagates instantaneously across empty space, i.e. it is believed to be a form of action at a distance. However, in a private letter Newton himself dismissed this idea:

That gravity should be innate, inherent, and essential to matter, so that one body may act upon another at a distance through a vacuum, without the mediation of any thing else, by and through which their action and force may be conveyed from one to another, is to me so great an absurdity, that I believe no man, who has in philosophical matters a competent faculty of thinking, can ever fall into it.1

Newton periodically toyed with the idea of an all-pervading ether filling his ‘absolute space’, and thought that the cause of gravity must be a spiritual agency, which he understood to mean ‘God’.

The need to postulate an ether is underlined by G. de Purucker:

We either have to admit the existence of [the] ether or ethers, i.e., of this extremely tenuous and ethereal substance which fills all space, whether interstellar or interplanetary or inter-atomic and intra-atomic, or accept actio in distans – action at a distance, without intervening intermediary or medium of transmission; and such actio in distans is obviously by all known scientific standards an impossibility. Reason, common sense, logic . . . demand the existence of such universally pervading medium, by whatever name we may choose to call it . . .2




http://davidpratt.info/gravity.htm


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Too late, psychological warfare is already here!:ninja: Turn on the TV, see an ad, a show exalting bourgeois values or the news?


Um, my m.o. is to just do whatever the TV and my Spam inbox tell me to do....


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[The Garbage Disposal Unit]

We should totally do this as a revleft experiment.

The Science forum is totally being misused. RevLeft needs to become a hub for peer review of proletarian science.