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Sinister Cultural Marxist
20th January 2016, 19:27
I had a bit of an epiphany responding to Reviscom's threat about Cuba, where I suggested that Cuba was in fact not seeking China style liberalization but was going down its own path.

Basically, China under Deng liberalized through attracting trade with and investment from large scale Western capitalist firms who sought to exploit China's large population as a labor source. This gave an opportunity for new partnerships for China's massive state-owned firms to grow exponentially, adding new productive capacity while at the same time enriching top layers of the bureaucracy and the most skilled members of the Chinese working class.

Vietnam liberalized along similar lines, though to a lesser degree, hoping to exploit its population which was not as large as China's 1.2 billion, but was still significant at 50 billion in the 80s, and growing rapidly. Unlike China, it was a medium sized nation, but its leaders knew its population was growing rapidly (and still is), and that these people could, like Chinese workers, become the basis for a rapidly growing industrial economy.

Cuba, with a population of a little more than 10 million, few natural resources (aside from nickel and rumored oil deposits), a huge supply in very old but very beautiful buildings, and a mostly agrarian economy, needs to look somewhere else to build a functioning liberal capitalist economy. Instead of using its huge population as an industrial labor army for private Western capital, it has instead sought (1) to draw in more tourists, and then (2) to built a large petit bourgeois small business community to provide goods and services to these tourists. As such, instead of massive manufacturing plants, Cuba has focused largely on encouraging homeowners and landlords to convert property into small businesses such as BnBs, small diners, milkshake stands, tour companies and so on. This is why they have focused on liberalizing their small business sector first, and why most workers are still on the government payroll (last I saw 80% of the workforce is employed by the state). A steel factory is of no interest to a tourist, and a state-owned icecream shop is nice, but perhaps not the most expeditious way to extract wealth from European and American consumers. However, a small Cuban food diner or BnB might be ideally suited to attracting such customers.

That said, Cuba is not shying away entirely from large scale industrial investment, say with the port of Mariel (http://www.latimes.com/world/brazil/la-fg-ff-cuba-mariel-20150217-story.html) and its associated SEZ, but nonetheless the character of Cuban liberalization seems to be fundamentally different from that in China. It's also unclear who or what will actually end up investing in it, and the extent to which such investment will extend to the rest of the island the way large scale capital expanded from Shenzen in China.

Thoughts? Should we stop seeing all liberalization in "post-really-existing-socialist" economies through the lens either of the Soviet model of sudden collapse, or the Chinese model of authoritarian industrialization?

reviscom1
20th January 2016, 23:02
I think the difference between the three "liberalizers" is, as you say, one of scale and also of level of industrialisation.

The commonality between them is that the liberalization happens at around the same time as improved relations with Capitalist powers, although which leads to which is hard to say.

I suppose that, if Socialist powers try to compete with Capitalist powers on their own terms, using Capitalist economic indicators, then there eventually comes a time when the Socialist governments say to themselves "You know what? We don't know enough about this and it's causing me too much stress. Let's get in a bit of free enterprise and let that take care of the running our markets" Whether Deng Xiapong always had a vision of China becoming a glamorous international financial powerhouse or whether he initially thought he would just be a little pragmatic and flexible I don't know.

Anyway, my overarching theory is this:

Pre-revolutionary Russia, China, Vietnam and Cuba did not have developed enough capitalist systems to attempt Socialism. They should all have undergone a prolonged Capitalist, bourgeois, liberal phase first.

Unfortunately, the lack of development also meant that the pre-revolutionary establishment in these countries was ripe for overthrow - corrupt, antiquated, inbred and primitive. And Capitalism was just far enough advanced to make their overthrow possible.

What we are seeing now, then, is the long delayed bourgeois phase re-asserting itself. It looks, oddly enough, like Marxism in reverse - a bourgeois revolution after a Socialist one.

What it actually is, though, is the correction of an historical anomaly.