Red Army Faction is back...

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

Sort of.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/19/former-red-army-faction-members-linked-to-botched-robbery

I would love to understand what these three have been doing since the RAF formally disbanded in 1998. It seems that they have essentially become lumpen elements, living outside of the capitalist system. Apparently they had a successful bank robbery in 1999 that got them a payday of 1m deutschmarks.

[Guardia Rossa]

I doubt those deutschmarks went to anything revolutionary
(I can't even believe someone created a communist terrorist group in XX century, what is this?)

[BIXX]

I doubt those deutschmarks went to anything revolutionary


So? I have a hard time believing they care.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

I doubt those deutschmarks went to anything revolutionary
(I can't even believe someone created a communist terrorist group in XX century, what is this?)

The use of 'urban guerrilla' tactics was fairly widespread in places like Germany, Italy etc. during the 1960s-1990s.

Though the tactics of groups like the RAF ended up in utter failure, their battle against capital and the state is fascinating to analyse.

[Aslan]

Sort of.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/19/former-red-army-faction-members-linked-to-botched-robbery

I would love to understand what these three have been doing since the RAF formally disbanded in 1998. It seems that they have essentially become lumpen elements, living outside of the capitalist system. Apparently they had a successful bank robbery in 1999 that got them a payday of 1m deutschmarks.

From what it sounds like I doubt it is truly anything ''revolutionary''. It does remind me of the recent Japan bombing caused by a former leader of the Japanese red army.

[John Nada]

From what it sounds like I doubt it is truly anything ''revolutionary''. It does remind me of the recent Japan bombing caused by a former leader of the Japanese red army.That strategy was based on focoism. It didn't snowball into an insurrection(the goal), so it's not going to look revolutionary in retrospect. And at times can appear distasteful( from the perspective of modern theoretical development(or lack thereof).

But you have to put it in context. There was various bloody civil wars and interventions in the Third-World, the possibility of a nuclear holocaust killing everyone(which still exists and may even be more likely, though with less awareness than during the Cold War). In the RAF's case you also had ex-Nazis still running the government and businesses. With no strong revolutionary mass movement, some thought there needed to be a spark to get the fire going.

In spite of the alleged DNA evidence, I'm generally wary of trusting the pigs. It's possible it is bullshit for headlines. This does happen all the time.

[Tim Cornelis]

Why does the police have an interest in making sensationalist headlines? They're not going to profit from putting this information out there.

[John Nada]

Why does the police have an interest in making sensationalist headlines? They're not going to profit from putting this information out there.Perhaps it's different in Germany, but more often than not, cops bullshit, as does the media(which does profit, as does the companies that nearly got jacked). They are not unbiased and neutral, and their words are not gold. There are suspects tied to a rather infamous leftist group, and they want to arrest and convict them. Maybe those masks had their DNA, maybe the masks were "discovered' after the fact. Perhaps they're guilt, perhaps not, there hasn't been a trial yet.