condor
29th December 2015, 19:35
Preface-
If you can only make statements without examples to back it up, don't bother engaging me in argument.
Definitions
A material condition: something science can measure and test
Non-material condition: something only mathematics and art can test; this does not mean the supernatural
An idea: something with no parallel in nature
Thus, if Marxism is true, science can explain everything
If it is not, then art and mathematics can explain some things better than science, like the golden mean or the Fibionacci series in nature.
Nobody is disputing Marxism's validity in explaining society as a whole but it's ability to explain individual phenomena and conciousness of individual people.
General Faults
Repeating plausible soundbytes (like people don't learn from books) without any proof..
Arguing for equality for equality's sake..
Not realising that capitalism could expand infinitely if it could fund space colonies;
Spending time understanding a society that will have changed beyond all recognition once you have finished understanding it
Even something as simple as chess has been found to have no true rules, how can society, something infinitely richer, possiblly have?
The more global travel becomes cheaper, the less any particular environment has any chance of making a foothold in consciousness.
Dogmas of Marxism
Dogma 1: all reformism must fail.
Dogma 2: the French revolution was doomed to be bourgeois; how do you know this if you haven't bothered to test this?
Dogma 3: material conditions ultimately determine consciousness in every occasion; an ugly house will turn someone mad just as much as a cold one. How can science test ugliness; it can't.
Ugliness, an idea, can send someone mad.
Many people commit suicide from existing in a soulless society rather than anything material like debt or illness...Once again, how can science test soullessness, it can't, soullessness is not a material condition yet it determines consciousness in the greatest proof of all: life or death.
Dogma 4: people don't learn from books; I suppose people stumble on Pythagorean theory while exploring life. The idea that people do not learn from books is vulgar philistine thought. For many people, books are more powerful than any sermon or political event...
Dogma 5: by explaining the motivation of an idea, you somehow rob it of its power
Dogma 6: people have merely misunderstood Marxism; Marxism is flexible. Well, it's not flexible enough. Marxism turns every materialist element into a materialist rule.
In fact, it is the opposite, Marxist misunderstand the criticisms of it; people do not dispute that material conditions determine society's ideas as a whole, but that they determine consciousness for every individual or household...
Dogma 7: anyone unorthodox is an adventurer: another example of Marxism's cheap tendency to label instead of concretely disprove.
Dogma 8: sneer at everything bizarre or revolving around sex
Dogma 9: people won't understand, people are conservative; this is a failure to see conservatism as a neurosis from sexual jealousies whereby people reject any theory that does not solve all their problems;
Faults in reasoning:
Fault 1: only present one side of the story or use folk tales to lull the mind into submission
Fault 2: if something cannot be found in a library, it doesn't exist....
Fault 3: all idealism must be false because Marx disproved one form of idealism: the German ideology. Marxism ignores the fact that hunger and cold's ability to stymy creativity can be overcome through meditation and other mental activities such as mindfulness.
Fault 4: life teaches. As Gore Vidal explains, we have the United States of Amnesia; people forget more than they remember.
Fault 5: use buzz-words like material that can be twisted into any meaning you want
Fault 6: that life teaches anything; history teaches; life doesn't. If something feels right, it must be right. This is the erroneous theory of life.
Fault 7: there are material conditions and then there are ideas; in practice there are many that are both; such erroneous conclusions arise from using long-winded dictionary English; using formal language will end with you using formal logic, no matter what
Failures of political Marxists
Failing 1: to explain homosexuality
Failing 2: to predict global warming
Failing 3: to explain how to give up smoking
Failing 4: to even properly define what material conditions and ideas are
Failing 5: to understand that the purpose of leaders is to eliminate the need for leaders...Marxists must exist as the collective consciousness of the working-class: historians and nothing more. Put simply, because power corrupts
Failing 6: to conduct even one sociological study to prove their ideas. Political Marxism tests nothing and thus knows nothing, only the bleating mantra of "life teaches" lulls people into the belief that unimaginative failures can teach us anything more than the natural dream-state of mankind
Failing 7: to develop any symbology or invented words to explain chaos theory, we end up with cantankerous long-winded sentences, much like in Capital, fit for nothing...
End
If you're wondering what will replace Marxism, it is obvious: chaos theory and coded language to surmise this
Ultimately Marxism fails because it explains how failure works, failure of the human imagination to know when to meditate and when to practice mindfulness, nothing more. The best ideas and the best surroundings are equally important to forming healthy consciousness of a child.
Lastly, Marxism could do without the snobbery. The amount of times middle-class is used as an insult is disturbing.
Appendix: simple reasons why materialism is not always correct
lack of interesting ideas causes people to overeat more than the other way round
if marxism really were flexible, it would not have to state that it is
if capitalism can be understood scientifically, then revolutionary situations should have occurred in every country but they haven't. In Israel, America, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, no revolutionary situations have occurred.
The internet, an idea that has changed the world more than any event in the past 25 years, did not come about through any new material being discovered or synthesised.
If you can only make statements without examples to back it up, don't bother engaging me in argument.
Definitions
A material condition: something science can measure and test
Non-material condition: something only mathematics and art can test; this does not mean the supernatural
An idea: something with no parallel in nature
Thus, if Marxism is true, science can explain everything
If it is not, then art and mathematics can explain some things better than science, like the golden mean or the Fibionacci series in nature.
Nobody is disputing Marxism's validity in explaining society as a whole but it's ability to explain individual phenomena and conciousness of individual people.
General Faults
Repeating plausible soundbytes (like people don't learn from books) without any proof..
Arguing for equality for equality's sake..
Not realising that capitalism could expand infinitely if it could fund space colonies;
Spending time understanding a society that will have changed beyond all recognition once you have finished understanding it
Even something as simple as chess has been found to have no true rules, how can society, something infinitely richer, possiblly have?
The more global travel becomes cheaper, the less any particular environment has any chance of making a foothold in consciousness.
Dogmas of Marxism
Dogma 1: all reformism must fail.
Dogma 2: the French revolution was doomed to be bourgeois; how do you know this if you haven't bothered to test this?
Dogma 3: material conditions ultimately determine consciousness in every occasion; an ugly house will turn someone mad just as much as a cold one. How can science test ugliness; it can't.
Ugliness, an idea, can send someone mad.
Many people commit suicide from existing in a soulless society rather than anything material like debt or illness...Once again, how can science test soullessness, it can't, soullessness is not a material condition yet it determines consciousness in the greatest proof of all: life or death.
Dogma 4: people don't learn from books; I suppose people stumble on Pythagorean theory while exploring life. The idea that people do not learn from books is vulgar philistine thought. For many people, books are more powerful than any sermon or political event...
Dogma 5: by explaining the motivation of an idea, you somehow rob it of its power
Dogma 6: people have merely misunderstood Marxism; Marxism is flexible. Well, it's not flexible enough. Marxism turns every materialist element into a materialist rule.
In fact, it is the opposite, Marxist misunderstand the criticisms of it; people do not dispute that material conditions determine society's ideas as a whole, but that they determine consciousness for every individual or household...
Dogma 7: anyone unorthodox is an adventurer: another example of Marxism's cheap tendency to label instead of concretely disprove.
Dogma 8: sneer at everything bizarre or revolving around sex
Dogma 9: people won't understand, people are conservative; this is a failure to see conservatism as a neurosis from sexual jealousies whereby people reject any theory that does not solve all their problems;
Faults in reasoning:
Fault 1: only present one side of the story or use folk tales to lull the mind into submission
Fault 2: if something cannot be found in a library, it doesn't exist....
Fault 3: all idealism must be false because Marx disproved one form of idealism: the German ideology. Marxism ignores the fact that hunger and cold's ability to stymy creativity can be overcome through meditation and other mental activities such as mindfulness.
Fault 4: life teaches. As Gore Vidal explains, we have the United States of Amnesia; people forget more than they remember.
Fault 5: use buzz-words like material that can be twisted into any meaning you want
Fault 6: that life teaches anything; history teaches; life doesn't. If something feels right, it must be right. This is the erroneous theory of life.
Fault 7: there are material conditions and then there are ideas; in practice there are many that are both; such erroneous conclusions arise from using long-winded dictionary English; using formal language will end with you using formal logic, no matter what
Failures of political Marxists
Failing 1: to explain homosexuality
Failing 2: to predict global warming
Failing 3: to explain how to give up smoking
Failing 4: to even properly define what material conditions and ideas are
Failing 5: to understand that the purpose of leaders is to eliminate the need for leaders...Marxists must exist as the collective consciousness of the working-class: historians and nothing more. Put simply, because power corrupts
Failing 6: to conduct even one sociological study to prove their ideas. Political Marxism tests nothing and thus knows nothing, only the bleating mantra of "life teaches" lulls people into the belief that unimaginative failures can teach us anything more than the natural dream-state of mankind
Failing 7: to develop any symbology or invented words to explain chaos theory, we end up with cantankerous long-winded sentences, much like in Capital, fit for nothing...
End
If you're wondering what will replace Marxism, it is obvious: chaos theory and coded language to surmise this
Ultimately Marxism fails because it explains how failure works, failure of the human imagination to know when to meditate and when to practice mindfulness, nothing more. The best ideas and the best surroundings are equally important to forming healthy consciousness of a child.
Lastly, Marxism could do without the snobbery. The amount of times middle-class is used as an insult is disturbing.
Appendix: simple reasons why materialism is not always correct
lack of interesting ideas causes people to overeat more than the other way round
if marxism really were flexible, it would not have to state that it is
if capitalism can be understood scientifically, then revolutionary situations should have occurred in every country but they haven't. In Israel, America, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, no revolutionary situations have occurred.
The internet, an idea that has changed the world more than any event in the past 25 years, did not come about through any new material being discovered or synthesised.