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Jacob Cliff
26th December 2015, 04:02
I'm not sure what I want to do with my life after college – I feel devoting myself to a cause like socialism helps give a sense of spiritual fulfillment. Just out of curiosity, what's a profession that would be useful for socialists?
Emmett Till
26th December 2015, 07:21
I'm not sure what I want to do with my life after college – I feel devoting myself to a cause like socialism helps give a sense of spiritual fulfillment. Just out of curiosity, what's a profession that would be useful for socialists?
Professional revolutionary. But don't quit your day job.
#FF0000
26th December 2015, 08:06
Pick a job or a field you can tolerate doing for the rest of your life first. Figure out how you can make a living while staying sane. Then figure out and decide, in terms of political activity, what you can do from where you are.
Sinister Cultural Marxist
26th December 2015, 19:39
Pick a job or a field you can tolerate doing for the rest of your life first. Figure out how you can make a living while staying sane. Then figure out and decide, in terms of political activity, what you can do from where you are.
Pretty much. There are certainly some jobs that can bring unique contributions, like law, say, but it shouldn't be your primary concern. Even if you find a profession where you can "contribute", you won't necessarily be able to survive on just doing the good fight. For instance, you could be a public defender who fights on behalf of people who are poor and were mistreated by the police, or help protesters who are being slapped with charges. I am not sure how many people can actually obtain livable conditions doing this kind of work, however. A lot of groups which do this kind of work operate on limited budgets. To do a good job at this and stay sane, you would also need to have a passion and talent for that kind of work independent of its political implications. Its often what people do outside of the work place that is most important.
If you can find a job where you can "help" and you figure out a way to feed yourself (and/or any dependents), good for you. If not, it won't really prevent you from participating as an activist.
I would be more worried about remaining critical of the ideological baggage that comes with whatever job you take, or if you need to start a small business, even what class you belong to.
#FF0000
26th December 2015, 20:42
For instance, you could be a public defender who fights on behalf of people who are poor and were mistreated by the police, or help protesters who are being slapped with charges. I am not sure how many people can actually obtain livable conditions doing this kind of work, however.
Even if they pay is good, the workload is intense. I know paralegals n lawyers who went into the field for this reason and their job consumes their life to the point where they have a difficult time maintaining relationships. They can only keep up because they believe so resolutely in what they're doing.
Krymz
27th December 2015, 18:32
well a post secondary teacher is a great way to sow seeds in young people's mind, depending on the field (any field that has to do with culture, like literature or history, there are many).
Or a factory worker, trying to sow communist seeds in his fellow workers, getting in the union and stuff.
Or working in the environmental/ natural resources/ agricultural fields, where most of the real tangible wealth comes from and what is the core of all societies. There are a lot of fields you can get into for a lot of different "causes" that might be more to your liking, like protecting vital wild areas from industries, working with first nations on land rights, etc.
JaffaRed
31st December 2015, 11:04
As people have said above, teaching in schools in working-class neighborhoods is an excellent way of building a political base with workers, both students and their parents. This has less to do with the subject you teach - I know a good number of communist math teachers from both Israel-Palestine and the US; others teach civics or history. The important part os being in touch with a working-class community.
Aslan
31st December 2015, 16:20
Medical doctors are very good, especially if you are a socialist.
I also recommend learning how to use a gun and join a paramilitary force.
Teaching in a university and schools in general with revolutionary ideas is also a good idea.
hierophant
7th January 2016, 04:06
be a criminal who isn't an asshole
Ele'ill
10th January 2016, 16:27
what do you mean 'join a paramilitary force' that sounds kind of gross
#FF0000
17th January 2016, 04:29
Or a factory worker, trying to sow communist seeds in his fellow workers, getting in the union and stuff.
Blue collar work sucks and anyone who thinks it's cool to slum it in a warehouse or factory to talk politics is an idiot.
I also recommend learning how to use a gun and join a paramilitary force.
on what authority do you recommend that and lmao what paramilitary organizations are you even talking about? what good is a paramilitary organization when there's a total lack of any kind of labor movement anyway?
And what are the long term prospects for one going into terrorism as a career? Do the Conspiracy of Cells of Fire have a good benefits package?
Heretek
17th January 2016, 05:11
Blue collar work sucks and anyone who thinks it's cool to slum it in a warehouse or factory to talk politics is an idiot.
on what authority do you recommend that and lmao what paramilitary organizations are you even talking about? what good is a paramilitary organization when there's a total lack of any kind of labor movement anyway?
And what are the long term prospects for one going into terrorism as a career? Do the Conspiracy of Cells of Fire have a good benefits package?
Well there's a nation forming in the Middle East..
Anyways, teaching and engineering are good choices. Teaching, preferably younger, you can influence the way kids perceive the world, even if they hate you. Engineers, doctors, etc., are great since we don't seem to have many of those with us. Better to pull a hair to knock down a building than bash your head to a pulp doing so, no?
BIXX
17th January 2016, 06:02
Become a cannibal
Guardia Rossa
17th January 2016, 06:06
What about sorcerer?
Ele'ill
17th January 2016, 17:05
become a tenured professor at Hogwarts
Palmares
19th January 2016, 04:04
become a tenured professor at Hogwarts
Fuck muggles, but I'd prefer to be an autonomous shaman, free from institutional authority. :tt2:
Tim Cornelis
19th January 2016, 18:04
Academia is filled with Marxists and quite left-wing socialists, far disproportionate to the general population, at least where I study. And this has been the case for years... So academic is a profession that does not advance the cause of socialism apparently. You can cross that off your list at least.
Thirsty Crow
19th January 2016, 19:30
I'm not sure what I want to do with my life after college – I feel devoting myself to a cause like socialism helps give a sense of spiritual fulfillment. Just out of curiosity, what's a profession that would be useful for socialists?
Any that would enable you land an industrial or logistics job in highly important and vulnerable industries. Vulnerable in the sense that the continued smooth running of it is crucial for the entire maintenance of society. For instance, energy production and distribution comes to mind. But there's really no profession per se that helps advance socialism; what advances socialism is workers coming together, out of sheer necessity, to fight for their conditions of life.
All in all I'd say it's entirely unhealthy to look for professions that would simultaneously offer a sense of spiritual fulfillment and advancing communism. Bitter truth is work is crippling and any kind of psychological fulfillment born of committing yourself to this cause is probably a dead end. That's the so called professional revolutionary stratum which is at best a position which will make you delude yourself so that your psychological investment seems to bear fruit, and at worst a full fledged counter-revolutionary racket.
Blue collar work sucks and anyone who thinks it's cool to slum it in a warehouse or factory to talk politics is an idiot.
All work sucks.
But that's besides the point. There are quite specific points of production and logistics which work as important hubs for day to day social reproduction. It's not that this work is noble or what have you.
Aslan
19th January 2016, 22:34
on what authority do you recommend that and lmao what paramilitary organizations are you even talking about? what good is a paramilitary organization when there's a total lack of any kind of labor movement anyway?
And what are the long term prospects for one going into terrorism as a career? Do the Conspiracy of Cells of Fire have a good benefits package?
I'm sorry about that comment, it was stupid and would probably scare people away more than liberate them.
But I still think a job in the medical field is good.
Bala Perdida
20th January 2016, 02:56
Be a chef who fights for their friends
o well this is ok I guess
20th January 2016, 08:23
none tbh
i tell little lies to customers in order to get that sweet sweet commission and I only feel guilty until the point in which said commission is exchanged for beer
everyone does it cuz all work dehumanizes
#FF0000
21st January 2016, 18:39
But that's besides the point. There are quite specific points of production and logistics which work as important hubs for day to day social reproduction. It's not that this work is noble or what have you.
I'm saying it's a bad idea to settle for a job in a warehouse if you're capable of something that pays better or is more comfortable, just because you think you're going to be able to rouse the masses around the water cooler.
It isn't my career but I've done just this as a salt and you need to be realistic about the fact that organizing is about collecting L's every single day with the occasional half-step forward, all while enduring work that is either backbreaking, mindnumbingly boring, or a combination of the too, and for very little money and likely no benefits.
That's why I'm saying -- take stock of your life and figure out what you value and what you want to do before you decide to slum it in temp labor
Decolonize The Left
21st January 2016, 19:45
No profession, or job, or 'work' for that matter, will help advance socialism. Socialism/communism is the abolition of these things as we understand them. I suggest that you do what's best for yourself and engage your community honestly and with integrity, and carve out whatever portions of meaning you can in this savannah of horror.
Thirsty Crow
22nd January 2016, 02:31
I'm saying it's a bad idea to settle for a job in a warehouse if you're capable of something that pays better or is more comfortable, just because you think you're going to be able to rouse the masses around the water cooler.
Sure but the actually problematic bit is this desire and idea of rousing the masses. If that - this ludicrous notion that "anti-capitalism" is so noble - persists, I dunno go into a factory or be a socialist party boss who's got their own printworks.
That's all I'm saying.
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